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    AMD, Seagate Show Off 6-Gbits/s SATA

    AMD and Seagate will demonstrate a next-generation 6-Gbit/s SATA interface Monday in New Orleans, the companies said.

    Neither company is announcing products based on the technology yet, Seagate executives said. The 6-Gbit/s SATA technology will be part of a future AMD south bridge chip, and may appear in solid-state-disc drives before it becomes part of a conventional hard drive.

    The target markets will be gaming PCs and servers, executives said.
    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2341914,00.asp

    Updated: AMD and Seagate demo 6Gbps Serial ATA
    Today AMD and Seagate are teaming up to demonstrate the next-generation Serial ATA specification. Dubbed SATA 6Gbps, the new spec will offer twice the disk-to-host bandwidth of the existing 3Gbps Serial ATA standard. Although the fastest Serial ATA hard drives on the market have a rough time maintaining transfer rates higher than about 110MB/s, they can typically push smaller burst transfers from their caches at over 250MB/s. Those caches are growing, with the latest desktop models packing 32MB memory chips. And let's not forget solid-state drives like Intel's X25-E Extreme, which has no problem sustaining over 200MB/s for reads and writes.

    Despite its fatter pipe, SATA 6Gbps will use the same connectors as the existing Serial ATA standard. The spec includes new goodness beyond a higher throughput peak, too, but AMD and Seagate are only talking data rates for now.

    While today's technology demonstration is not a product launch, we can tell you that the demo drive is based on Seagate's current Barracuda 7200.12. It's running on a next-gen AMD chipset with a brand new storage controller of the company's own deign. That setup, according to Seagate, has hit a peak data rate of 589.09MB/s. There's no word yet on when the SB750's much-needed successor will arrive, but Seagate expects to announce products compatible with SATA 6Gbps before the year is out.
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    Seagate demoing SATA6Gbps?

    *irony detector overload*
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    News from the future:

    "March 9, 2009 -By Mark Hachman
    AMD, Seagate Show Off 6-Gbits/s SATA"


    Awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by largon View Post
    Seagate demoing SATA6Gbps?

    *irony detector overload*


    Nice to see they've stuff to show it off however I hope they release it on schedule anyhow.

    /me thinks back on the SB750
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaddam205 View Post
    News from the future:

    "March 9, 2009 -By Mark Hachman
    AMD, Seagate Show Off 6-Gbits/s SATA"


    Awesome!
    w00t, news from the future. It must have been a sheet of paper inside the delorean when it came back....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaddam205 View Post
    News from the future:

    "March 9, 2009 -By Mark Hachman
    AMD, Seagate Show Off 6-Gbits/s SATA"


    Awesome!
    its more like "in the year two-thous-ond, seagate and amd will show off sata 6Gb/s but will have no way to demonstrate it other than a shiny shiny sticker"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rammsteiner View Post
    Point being, SSDs, which will seriously hurt Seagate and their fellow HDD builders, are what are going to gain from SATA6Gbps.
    SATA6Gbps won't do anything for HDDs in realworld for a long time. Peak r/w rates for HDDs are pretty much meaningless and average transfer rates are still sub-100MB/s and they're not advancing anywhere near as fast as SSDs.
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    Maybe combo drives benefit from this also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by largon View Post
    Point being, SSDs, which will seriously hurt Seagate and their fellow HDD builders, are what are going to gain from SATA6Gbps.
    SATA6Gbps won't do anything for HDDs in realworld for a long time. Peak r/w rates for HDDs are pretty much meaningless and average transfer rates are still sub-100MB/s and they're not advancing anywhere near as fast as SSDs.
    Ah, that way. Yeah, SATA 2.0 didnt even do all that much for HDD's either. But maybe Seagate shows off SSD's, although didnt see anything from them regarding SSD's. Then again I ain't really looking into their products cause HDD wise it's mainly WD or Samsung
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    Maybe seagate will surprise us with a VERY fast ssd of their own!!!



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    Aren't Seagate starting to go SSDs anyway?
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    I'd say so since these are storage companies anyway. Then again, HDD will still be around for a long time since it is so very cheap per GB storage. As existing systems are upgraded/phased out we'll probably see more cheap SSD become available... It's not like SAS and FC storage is slow anyway, quite the opposite. Not x25 SSD fast but still cheaper per GB and performance wise FC and SAS disks are very acceptable.

    EMC has a product in the works right now that uses all SAS SSD.
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    some clever programmers should use SATA to replace ethernet
    a maxxed out SATA II link should be about the same as 3 gigabit-ethernet links if you don't mind the 1 meter cable length restriction
    4xSATA 3Gb or 2xSATA 6Gb and you have as much bandwidth as 10Gbit ethernet, and that isn't cheap http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=

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    hopefully 20k rpm raptors can benefit from sata 6gbits

    but i think usb 3.0 possibly can take over sata

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollo View Post
    some clever programmers should use SATA to replace ethernet
    a maxxed out SATA II link should be about the same as 3 gigabit-ethernet links if you don't mind the 1 meter cable length restriction
    4xSATA 3Gb or 2xSATA 6Gb and you have as much bandwidth as 10Gbit ethernet, and that isn't cheap http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=
    and 10Gbit ethernet has the ability to go from one side of the room to the other without the need for three repeaters/amplifiers
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    It would be great of a company like Seagate got into making affordable storage SSD's. 800$ for 250 GB is crazy. You don't need those kinds of speeds for storage either. But you do need the silence and lack of moving parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeCosmosS View Post
    hopefully 20k rpm raptors can benefit from sata 6gbits

    but i think usb 3.0 possibly can take over sata
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    Quote Originally Posted by saint-francis View Post
    It would be great of a company like Seagate got into making affordable storage SSD's. 800$ for 250 GB is crazy. You don't need those kinds of speeds for storage either. But you do need the silence and lack of moving parts.
    In the world of flash memory, capacity and cost have a linear correlation.
    There is no such thing as "affordable storage SSD".
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    SB800/850 is suppose to support SATA 6.0.
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    Seagate demoing SATA6Gbps?

    *irony detector overload*

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