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    OCZ Vertex preview: Interesting results!

    The new OCZ Vertex solid state drive is one of the most impressive SSDs we have tested to date. I know that there is much excitement in the hardware community about this drive and for good reason: it uses a brand new controller from a brand new company and as such performance was an unknown. Many in the community have been billing it as the first true competitor to Intel's X25-M line of mainstream MLC drives and it indeed lives up to that status.
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    I just wonder how much faster it would be in every day sort of usage than a Raptor 150GB drive. ( i just don't trust these benchmarks that much. ).

    Would it be super noticeable? IF i booted windows with my 150Gig Raptor in 30 seconds would the OS load in 15 Seconds with a Vertex SSD?

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    finally, review out for the vertex. although they should also alsobench the 30gb vertex since it's a little slower than its 120gb big brother, and most people will get the 30gb or 60gb anyways.
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    Random writes drop the Vertex to 20MB/s, better than what we have but still not very good at all.

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    disappointing. I almost jumped on the V2s and solid series, waited to see what vertex would do. glad I haven't bought any MLC yet.

    the degradation is only associated with MLC, no? X25-E and other SLC immune to this problem?

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    So it turns out adding cache and changing controller was not enough to fix the write speed problems

    *goes back to waiting for next gen of ssds*

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    Quote Originally Posted by F0rr3sTT View Post
    the degradation is only associated with MLC, no? X25-E and other SLC immune to this problem?
    No, X25-E also suffers from it

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    good god its every damn day with these drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveprime View Post
    good god its every damn day with these drives.
    You live on the bleeding edge and sometimes you get cut.

    I'm sure the Vertex is fine for a desktop or laptop. I'm on OCZ Cores here and they are fine (although I know there are some issues with them). It will take time though before SSD's are completely ripe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveprime View Post
    good god its every damn day with these drives.
    QFT.

    it's seriously so annoying how often "new" drives come out, if they can come out with new technology this fast.. why don't they wait, and release a product that gives us what we actually want. that being good price:performance ratio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chruschef View Post
    QFT.

    it's seriously so annoying how often "new" drives come out, if they can come out with new technology this fast.. why don't they wait, and release a product that gives us what we actually want. that being good price:performance ratio.
    Obviously because there are people willing to buy them now.

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    Unhappy

    I read that article a few days ago and it completely shattered my dreams of a new SSD (I was going to use a X-25E in my new PC, but now I am not sure what I am going to do).

    I am shocked people are not talking about this even more so than the JMicron controller issue. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by F0rr3sTT View Post
    disappointing. I almost jumped on the V2s and solid series, waited to see what vertex would do. glad I haven't bought any MLC yet.

    the degradation is only associated with MLC, no? X25-E and other SLC immune to this problem?
    Even FusionIO has the problem.

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    All ssd's (whether slc or mlc) drop the write performance in half when the drive is full of data, because the controller has to erase some cells and then write to it again. But the read performance is not affected by this so they still leave the mechanical drives in the dust.

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    makes me glad i made the decision to not sell my last few VR's to fund for some SSD's
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    Quote Originally Posted by F0rr3sTT View Post
    disappointing. I almost jumped on the V2s and solid series, waited to see what vertex would do. glad I haven't bought any MLC yet.

    the degradation is only associated with MLC, no? X25-E and other SLC immune to this problem?
    All SSDs suffer from it. However all SSDs would also outlive a mechnical HD by a very large margin.
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    The benefits with ssd are for a desktop user really good.
    fast access, fast reads and for a bottleneck as the old drives has had, for an average user, ssd is really sweet.
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    Vertex is not quite what I expected.

    Oh well.
    Time to start stalking Sandisk G3 series. Maybe, just maybe, Sandisk's in-house controller would deliver. At least G3s will deliver a far more sensible $/GB ratio.
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    i'm so glad that i stopped waiting for new SSDs 3 months ago and went for 2 velociraptors in raid 1, great speed and incredibly reliable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    i'm so glad that i stopped waiting for new SSDs 3 months ago and went for 2 velociraptors in raid 1, great speed and incredibly reliable!
    I can't understand why everyone is so concerned about the lifespan of SSDs. Even if you're writing 100 GB a day it takes friggin' long before the drive dies. As Shintai pointed out SSDs should outlive HDDs. But that depends on the controller and how good the wear-leveling is.

    But I'm glad I didn't wait either and bought a Mtron Mobi (SLC). That's a new definition of speed compared to the old 2,5 inch notebook-drive...
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    Does this mean that reformatting would take longer? Or faster? Would it be faster since the files are written "sequentially" one after another? I want to get a pair in raid 0, though they don't look like they really out perform my raid 0 VR's in much besides access time
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    There were a lot of good benchmarks, but I wanted to see some real home user environment tests in terms of loading programs, working with photoshop, etc.

    When it comes down to it, does it even matter which current or nearly current drive you have as long as you have 2-4 in a raid 0 on a good card? Thats what I've begun to notice. Raid cards seem to be the answer along with a good hdd for pagefile, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdrift0rx View Post
    Does this mean that reformatting would take longer? Or faster? Would it be faster since the files are written "sequentially" one after another? I want to get a pair in raid 0, though they don't look like they really out perform my raid 0 VR's in much besides access time
    You quickformat

    But old format would still be fast. You dont see whats behind the controller.
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