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    well this looks like the max for now

    http://valid.canardpc.com:80/show_oc.php?id=506108

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    well this looks like the max for now

    http://valid.canardpc.com:80/show_oc.php?id=506108

    Hax... Hax I tell you!!! :p

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    still havent dropped HT/NB, thats usually good for another 100-200mhz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    It's not a big issue for the majority. I haven't used more than two modules since my 386 DX. I think they will fix this issue in the C3 stepping.

    Anyway similar or worse issue exists on DDR2-1066 since the first Phenom B2 stepping.



    Even so, I've never experienced this issue on my machine.
    go i didnt know this at all, this is exactly the problem i have been seeing i my rig, i knew it was a memory error, but memtest showed nothing.

    i dont just get hangs, i get a hang then i get a blue screen

    at least a fix is on the way

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    2 hours prime stable, currently running 3.8 prime test, sorry takes time, once I jot down all my stable speeds I will get to benching.
    It's scaling almost identical voltage wise to pass prime as my week 48 940 BE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    It's not a big issue for the majority. I haven't used more than two modules since my 386 DX. I think they will fix this issue in the C3 stepping.

    Anyway similar or worse issue exists on DDR2-1066 since the first Phenom B2 stepping.



    Even so, I've never experienced this issue on my machine.
    Never had that problem on my DFI MR2, Phenom 1 & 2.
    But had that problem on the K9A2 Platinum & Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe
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    identical scaling to my 940, I will try higher + tweaked tommorow.




    Dumo I know you are curious so I ran 05, haven't run it yet with 4850's in X fire, so no clue what to expect, untweaked preety dirty run, stuff in background etc etc.




    Off to bed now, my finger needs to heal for saturdays DI session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    2 hours prime stable, currently running 3.8 prime test, sorry takes time, once I jot down all my stable speeds I will get to benching.
    It's scaling almost identical voltage wise to pass prime as my week 49 940 BE

    Awesome, what temps is it priming at.. 3.8 at 1.440 is excellent!

    Also have you tried playing with the bus speed and multi, i ve seen some decent results where both were changed, system more stable with the bus at like 230 ish and lower multi.. but your the expert atm
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    Quote Originally Posted by kg4icg View Post
    now you just have to contend with this issue
    http://www.techpowerup.com/84955/Phe...333_Issue.html
    Oh dear, here comes the flood of 'my god it's full of bugs' and all sorts of things blown out of proportion.

    CPUs have bugs, they are very rare and only in certain cases have those bugs been serious enough to warrant a change in product roll out or PR for a company. Intel suffered this with the famous FDIV bug and the 1.13 GHz Pentium III fiasco. AMD recently suffered from this with the TLB errata...

    However, those cases are rare and does not mean bugs do not exist. AMD's AM3 socket is new, expect some minor quirks until BIOS tweaking/tuning/debugging addresses most of them, and in cases where BIOS cannot address the issue the rate of occurrence is likely such a rarity you will never see it... case in point the stupid whoopla on the TLB errata that is utterly a non-issue on DTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by villa1n View Post
    Awesome, what temps is it priming at.. 3.8 at 1.440 is excellent!

    Also have you tried playing with the bus speed and multi, i ve seen some decent results where both were changed, system more stable with the bus at like 230 ish and lower multi.. but your the expert atm
    Just chasing max stable core clock speeds atm with nothing else to cause issues, I will tweak it tommorow. that was 3.6 at 1.44, needs 1.55-1.575 for 3800+, this board requires more voltage than most though, 4 phase pwm.

    This board tends to be a little flakey plus I need bus 267 for my ram to be 1066 or its pointless. That makes multi jumps rather awkward, 133.5 mhz per 1/2 multi, also hinders tweaking HT/NB speeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    well this looks like the max for now

    http://valid.canardpc.com:80/show_oc.php?id=506108

    Wow, thats very impressive

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    All dress up, but still waiting for cpu


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumo View Post
    All dress up, but still waiting for cpu

    I'm awaiting your thoughts/opinions on that board, shipper needs to get you a cpu quick........No unlocked cpu though?
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    I'm thinking to cross the border to pick up 945ES, but have to work Sat. am

    If it based on M4A79D performance with 940 then this mobo should be one of the best, especially with its power stability.

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    The 710 and 720 have been on newegg for 3 days, so if you guys want one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    The 710 and 720 have been on newegg for 3 days, so if you guys want one...
    Yeah I ordered mine the morning they were posted but they couldn't be bothered to ship mine until today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iandh View Post
    Yeah I ordered mine the morning they were posted but they couldn't be bothered to ship mine until today.
    That's odd, I thought you ordered yours earlier in the day than I did. Mine was shipped yesterday. I didn't pay to "rush" it either... I've found that's a waste, I always had to call and ask for a refund (which they gave me because it didn't ship till the next day or sometimes two days later )

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    Time for more extensive results, bear with me the first tests I'm trying to get an idea of what I should expect under DI tommorow.

    I seem to have a NB issue not sure if bios related, I'm not using higher because I get a post code error 00 with anything over 2200.....not by choice.

    according to hardware bot these scores are spot on if not a tad faster at the same speed.













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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Time for more extensive results, bear with me the first tests I'm trying to get an idea of what I should expect under DI tommorow.

    I seem to have a NB issue not sure if bios related, I'm not using higher because I get a post code error 00 with anything over 2200.....not by choice.

    according to hardware bot these scores are spot on if not a tad faster at the same speed. .


    The 920's were binned with much weaker NB than the 940's. most 920's dont want to go past 2200 or so with 1.35v without errors.

    It sounds like the 720's may have the same low Binned NB of the 920's. If thats true I wonder what they might be saving the Higher binned NB/tri cores for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    The 920's were binned with much weaker NB than the 940's. most 920's dont want to go past 2200 or so with 1.35v without errors.

    It sounds like the 720's may have the same low Binned NB of the 920's.
    I don't think that the case this time, I have this same issue over 2800nb with the 940, I think its a combination of bios and the board being a GX. With F2 bios I could push NB preety hard.
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    one things for sure, The 720 is going to appeal to allot of enthusiast and gamers at this price. Performing like a good Intel Dual core + an extra thread makes it almost as good as a quad for gaming and most desktop apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    one things for sure, The 720 is going to appeal to allot of enthusiast and gamers at this price. Performing like a good Intel Dual core + an extra thread makes it almost as good as a quad for gaming and most desktop apps.
    Its an awsome budget chip, definitely gets my vote. very fun to play with.

    My ISP must be in fits right now, my webspace is getting hammered with views from all the screenshots

    Preety cold out right now what say we try to take down the current air record for 720 BE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemi345 View Post
    That's odd, I thought you ordered yours earlier in the day than I did. Mine was shipped yesterday. I didn't pay to "rush" it either... I've found that's a waste, I always had to call and ask for a refund (which they gave me because it didn't ship till the next day or sometimes two days later )

    At anyrate, mine will be here on Tuesday.
    Yeah I ordered mine within 30 min of it appearing on neweg (yes I was checking newegg every 30 min)

    They do this crap to me every time I really need a package, and every time I don't need it they never fail to get it to me next day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    I don't think that the case this time, I have this same issue over 2800nb with the 940, I think its a combination of bios and the board being a GX. With F2 bios I could push NB preety hard.
    that 720 definitely hit NB 3.3Ghz with 790X am3 board.

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