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    Exclamation HELP! D60, D80, and D90 involved!

    ok so i have a D60, and i might be getting a D80 as a gift.
    talking to some guys at the local samys i might be able to
    trade both for a D90. Would it be a better idea to have 2
    cameras D60 and D80 or trade both for the D90. I know ill
    probably be using the D80 more then the D60 for AEB and
    the focus motor and the idea of have 2 camera is just nice

    i know the D90 is far superior to both the D60 and D80 so
    is there any possible reasons you guys can come up with
    for me to keep both the D60 and D80? i mean real reasons.

    the D60 is pretty much the same as a D80 minus the motor
    some features right and a smaller body? Is the ISO better
    on the D80?

    help

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    This depends what your needs will be. If you are shooting events (weddings, gatherings, you could think of more) and will need to change lenses often to go between short and long range, having 2 cameras is a godsend. This is much more useful than having one great camera.

    If you are only shooting solo and don't need this type of convenience, go with the D90.

    D80 is much different than the D60. Think of it this way:

    Intro level, amateur:
    D40/D60

    Intermediate to advanced:
    D70, D80, D90

    Advanced to semi-pro:
    D100, D200, D300

    Hobbyist to pro:
    D700, D3

    The D90 is the update to the D80 and they share the same body and overall build idealogy.
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    If you can get your hands on the D90 without having to spend any extra cash, I say go for it, its a once in a while chance. But its always a rule that quality glasses helps more in producing quality pictures then the body, so getting the D90 may not possibly help you produce far better pictures then the D60.


    An alternate way would be, keep the D60, and get a Tokina 12-24 or Sigma 10-20 f4 or Nikkor 60mm f2.8 macro, one of these lens with the D60 would easily produce better pictures then the D90 + Kit lens.
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    ANP !!!; ill have to talk to samys again but i think its a straight trade both the D60 and the D80 bodies for the D90 body.

    as for your alt, are you suggesting i sell the D80 for a lens?
    i shot the tokina 12-24 at the CES with the built in motor and
    it was ok, didnt like the built quality of that lens but it could
    have been a prototype. zoom and focus ring had alot of play
    and the m/a system is iffy. I personally havent used a sigma
    but after looking at them at samys i dont think i will. As for the
    nikon micro lenses, that would be a solid investment. dont
    know when i would actually need to take some macro shoots
    but would definitely be a nice lens too have. should be great
    for portraits as well but id really like AF. Im not looking to spend
    any more $ as i just bought my SB600.

    i just need reasons to keep both cameras as the D80 isnt that
    much of an upgrade to the D60 overall (besides the obvious)

    i dont want to make a mistake i might regret in the future..

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    You could sell the D60 then and keep the D80, that way you can have the built in motor and few more important features. Maxxxracer has the Tokina lens, I guess he can suggest you if its worth buying or not.

    I have seen a lot of pictures on Explore(flickr) with the Sigma 10 - 20 and its a great lens, very sharp and color reproduction/contrast is great. I personally didn't like the build quality of my 70-300 sigma, but its a cheap lens. I think its not the case with expensive sigmas.

    Check this links for some samples.
    http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Sigma%2010-20&w=all
    http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=sigm...20&w=all&s=int
    http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=sigma10-20&w=all&s=int
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    Ill have too look into the Sigma 10-20, i really liked the tokina 11-17 when i tested it but at the time it did not have a focus motor in it so i "was" waiting for that. since i will be getting the D80 maybe wont be such a bad idea to trade in the D60 towards the tokina.

    not sure how much samy would give me for it but i hope atleast $400 maybe 6k actuation less then a year of use

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    Alright keep us updated with what sammy is offering you for the D60.
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    well it depends if the to camera is worth more than the D90 then probably not..

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    Quote Originally Posted by belmontrich View Post
    well it depends if the to camera is worth more than the D90 then probably not..
    what? not sure i understand what your saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANP !!! View Post
    An alternate way would be, keep the D60, and get a Tokina 12-24 or Sigma 10-20 f4 or Nikkor 60mm f2.8 macro, one of these lens with the D60 would easily produce better pictures then the D90 + Kit lens.
    Not sure what you mean by this. A 12-24 or 10-20 or macro lens would certainly let you take photos that are not possible on the kit 18-105, but "easily produce better pictures?" Nah...by most accounts the kit lens is very competent and versatile. It's a bit apples to oranges.

    ++depends on what and how you intend to shoot

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    FWIW, if you sold the d60 and d80 yourself you would get alot more than you would if you traded it in for the D90. My personal opinion is to sell the two that you get, and then get the D90. I wouldnt bother with the kit lens, because if you like to shoot alot you will find yourself wanting to sell the kit lens rather quickly to get some other glass goodies. Maybe keep the 18-50VR from the D60 and then get a 55-200VR or a 70-300VR (that would be my preference).

    On the other hand if you dont want to put any money into this, my suggestion is to ditch the D60 and stick with the D80 simply so you can use some older non AF-s lenses and some excellent 3rd party lenses that either dont have built in focus motors, or are just garbage with their respective built in focus motor. With the money you get from the D60, get a SB-600 and a lens. That keeps your out of pocket low or 0 and you have a good setup that is more versatile than the D60. The only downside to this is that you dont get the updated sensor from the D90 and awesome 3" LCD, but if those are not big concerns and money is a concern, I think this is the best solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer View Post
    FWIW, if you sold the d60 and d80 yourself you would get alot more than you would if you traded it in for the D90. My personal opinion is to sell the two that you get, and then get the D90. I wouldnt bother with the kit lens, because if you like to shoot alot you will find yourself wanting to sell the kit lens rather quickly to get some other glass goodies. Maybe keep the 18-50VR from the D60 and then get a 55-200VR or a 70-300VR (that would be my preference).

    On the other hand if you dont want to put any money into this, my suggestion is to ditch the D60 and stick with the D80 simply so you can use some older non AF-s lenses and some excellent 3rd party lenses that either dont have built in focus motors, or are just garbage with their respective built in focus motor. With the money you get from the D60, get a SB-600 and a lens. That keeps your out of pocket low or 0 and you have a good setup that is more versatile than the D60. The only downside to this is that you dont get the updated sensor from the D90 and awesome 3" LCD, but if those are not big concerns and money is a concern, I think this is the best solution.
    thats true maxx let me tell you what i currently have

    D60

    15-55 VR
    55-200 VR
    50 f/1.4
    28 f/2.8
    SB600

    the D80 comes tomorrow NIB

    now if dont mind can you give me another shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil-98 View Post
    thats true maxx let me tell you what i currently have

    D60

    15-55 VR
    55-200 VR
    50 f/1.4
    28 f/2.8
    SB600

    the D80 comes tomorrow NIB

    now if dont mind can you give me another shot?
    hmm... Then just sell the D60 and D80 and go get yourself a D90 because clearly you like photography. Just keep the the 18-55 from the D60 and get the D90 without the lens.

    If you have some cash left over you could pocket it or grab another lens. As I suggested before, possibly the 70-300 or the new 35 1.8 (assuming its not garbage).

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    Hmm I didn't knew you had so many lens, then I guess trading both your DSLRs for D90 would be a wise decision, considering you already have so many quality glasses to keep you occupied, that you wont need a new lens any time soon.


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    I'd lose the 28 f/2.8 and get the new 35 f/1.8 AF-S...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer View Post
    hmm... Then just sell the D60 and D80 and go get yourself a D90 because clearly you like photography. Just keep the the 18-55 from the D60 and get the D90 without the lens.

    If you have some cash left over you could pocket it or grab another lens. As I suggested before, possibly the 70-300 or the new 35 1.8 (assuming its not garbage).
    Thanks for your input

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    Hmm I didn't knew you had so many lens, then I guess trading both your DSLRs for D90 would be a wise decision, considering you already have so many quality glasses to keep you occupied, that you wont need a new lens any time soon.


    Go for it. .
    exactly, thanks for your input as well

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    I'd lose the 28 f/2.8 and get the new 35 f/1.8 AF-S...
    really? ive grown really comfortable with the 28mm focal length 35mm shouldnt be that big of a difference i suppose. well just have to wait for it to come out. march i think


    Well im going to see what i can get from samys first, know of a good place to sell?

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    Do you like the 28? I have heard it just isn't that great, not sharp at f/2.8 so what's the point? Having a fast focusing lens that is useable at f/1.8 is much better, IMO. You probably won't even spend any money on the switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburner View Post
    Do you like the 28? I have heard it just isn't that great, not sharp at f/2.8 so what's the point? Having a fast focusing lens that is useable at f/1.8 is much better, IMO. You probably won't even spend any money on the switch.
    seams fairly sharp to me at all stops, alot of times i get blurry shots because of misfocusing but with its focused right sharp as a tack. referring to my other post in another thread if you remember i stated that the 28mm seemed sharper then my 50mm at same stops.

    but what you said make sense as well

    well the D80 is in my hands, box was heavier then i expected.

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    I don't know enough about it to talk from experience...only speaking from others comments that I've read so take that with a grain of salt.

    Enjoy the D80. It ramped me up to speed into the world of DSLRs for sure.
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    Like SB says, it depends on your needs, or how and what you're shooting.

    I enjoy wildlife, so I carry a D300 (for the 1.5x crop factor) and an 80-400 nikor zoom for birds.

    Then I've got a D3 with a 200mm f/4 micro (macro) for bugs and flowers and snakes, etc.

    But remember, switching lenses isn't the end of the world either.

    I've read alot of good things about the D90.
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