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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    blah.... Intel Atom saves me on my electric bill each month so screw you Jen-Hsun
    cpu will, the NB is just utter crap and consumes way more then the cpu

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeertDB View Post
    cpu will, the NB is just utter crap and consumes way more then the cpu
    The US15 chipset with GMA 500 and DX10.1 support doesnt agree with you. Also the 945 for netbooks aint bad. 11-12W total TDP with chipset+CPU. 4.3W for US15+CPU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    But wait! If you're using a computer more often, if it is a faster architecture that consumes more energy, then the total power consumption may be lower than models that idle lower since it gets the job done faster!
    Ok, so there is a BMW 745i and a Honda Accord. They both have to go 200 miles.
    So the beemer does the trip in an hour and twenty minutes because it was going 150mph.
    The Honda does the trip in two hours and fourty minutes at 75 mph.
    By your logic you are telling me that the beemer gets better gas mileage becasue it got there first?
    I know its not exactly the same thing, but the power consumption concept is about the same.
    Even if you go faster for a shorter time, you still needed all that power to get to those speeds and maintain them for that time period.

    If you were being sarcastic then disregard this, I think I'm mainly thinking out loud.

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    From what I understand an Intel Atom 1.6GHz is around the same performance as a 900MHz Celeron M. I believe the Atom uses less power and the chipset it runs on is better. So with that in mind I'll continue.

    I have the Asus EEE PC 900 (900MHz celeron, 1GB RAM, 20GB SSD, etc) I have installed XP on it and I can tell you this; GTA vice city runs at 1024x600 with the draw distance at 3/4 full very smoothly, It can run NFS hot pursuit 2 smoothly as well as some other games around that time.

    The only thing I have found it struggles with is playing HD video (I use VLC player, maybe a different player will run it??)

    I agree with what others have said, software companies need to code their better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    The US15 chipset with GMA 500 and DX10.1 support doesnt agree with you. Also the 945 for netbooks aint bad. 11-12W total TDP with chipset+CPU. 4.3W for US15+CPU.
    too bad the 945GC has a TDP of 22.2W, how do you get 12W total TDP?

    edit// my bad, too quick on the research

    the 945GSE has a TDP of 6W
    the 82801GBM has a TDP op 3.3W (aspire one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeertDB View Post
    too bad the 945GC has a TDP of 22.2W, how do you get 12W total TDP?
    I think you mix nettops and netbooks again...945GSC is whats used in netbooks. Besides the US15.

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    Nvidia is hurting the software industy by making crap software and crap drivers, every nvidia product inc the chipset and gpu im using now has problem with the firmware, drivers etc.

    And hardware wise, how many different problems has Nvidia been kicked in the teeth about last year.

    Then of course we have the fact that technology is going alot slower then it should be because amd, nvidia and intel scrapping 24/7 over what should be standards etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    I think you mix nettops and netbooks again...945GSC is whats used in netbooks. Besides the US15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cozwin View Post
    Nvidia is hurting the software industy by making crap software and crap drivers, every nvidia product inc the chipset and gpu im using now has problem with the firmware, drivers etc.

    And hardware wise, how many different problems has Nvidia been kicked in the teeth about last year.

    Then of course we have the fact that technology is going alot slower then it should be because amd, nvidia and intel scrapping 24/7 over what should be standards etc.
    What are you talking about? My 780i NB that died, their drivers that corrupted my raid array, the 7 series nForce video corruption problems, or just the fact that they ran hot as heck?

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    I think that so far, what a netbook is, is a low-cost PC that doesn't work that well.
    so true... I don't understand how anyone uses those underpowered tiny screen/res things they call computers.

    Speaking of hurting/holding back software, what about 32 bit operating systems? We have had 64 bit processors since 2004 and 5 years later there are still hardly any 64 bit apps. A majority of the world running 32 bit XP doesn't help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    The US15 chipset with GMA 500 and DX10.1 support doesnt agree with you.
    What the hell is the point of DX10.1 support when the GMA500 offers far lower than even GMA950 gaming performance which is itself totally insufficient for any type of modern gaming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Periander6 View Post
    What the hell is the point of DX10.1 support when the GMA500 offers far lower than even GMA950 gaming performance which is itself totally insufficient for any type of modern gaming?
    Faster/better UI support in Windows 7. Plus a few other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
    What are you talking about? My 780i NB that died, their drivers that corrupted my raid array, the 7 series nForce video corruption problems, or just the fact that they ran hot as heck?
    haha im sure those thinga are true too, i was on about my 650i :P runs stupidly hot, doesnt work at all, buggy as hell drivers etc etc.

    Plus the new apple laptops are starting to be sent back due to problems with the nvidia chips :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    The US15 chipset with GMA 500 and DX10.1 support doesnt agree with you. Also the 945 for netbooks aint bad. 11-12W total TDP with chipset+CPU. 4.3W for US15+CPU.
    There are no drivers for DX10.1 on GMA500, only DX9. And they are really bad. The 133Mhz 945G from the netbooks is actually 3 times faster than the GMA500 right now.

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