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    Why don't all radiators have one G1/4 hole on the backside.

    It's one of those things that would make life a lot easier for us watercoolers.
    For those of us that want to put the radiator flush to the roof, a reverse hole for a top drainport would make life a million times easier.
    You pretty much can bypass the reservoir and it makes filling up the case a breeze.

    I know the new swiftech radiators have the fillport toward the back, but not on the other side.

    So simply put, 2 threaded holes on one side, like a standard radiator, but 1 additional one behind it for linking directly to a top fillport.
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    That is a really good idea. Would definitely like to see that as well as it would make things so much easier.

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    This is a tough call for me...
    It has its pluses and minuses.

    For me, filling up the loop is always a PITA. Putting the port right at the top would make that part a million times easier. Like you mentioned, you could pretty much bypass the reservoir/t-line, but there could be some issues...

    -Which end of the reservoir should it go on?
    -Manufacturers would have to standardize this location, otherwise you could end up with holes in the top of your case when you switch radiators.
    -The fillport would have to be recessed and/or it couldn't be attached to the top of the case, otherwise you couldn't easily get the top on/off.
    -I could make topping off a little tricky since you don't have much space for water column. It could also make knowing your water level a little difficult.

    I'm just playing devils advocate here.

    That said, I think it's an excellent idea, but one best left for DIY'ers and not manufactures.

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    Ultimately it would have to slightly further away from the rad grill holes.
    On some radiators it might not work because the area where the rad hole is has to be slightly less deep than the area where the fans are.
    That way when the radiator is essentially flush to top, there still is some space for the hole to have threading and mount to the top with some type of fillport or direct fillport t radiator.

    You probably could have it at both ends with a thin plug on both sides.
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    Swiftech's "Sandwich" MCR series will have something like this in the coming weeks I think

    I definitely like the idea

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    indeed the dual sided ports of the new swifty rads will open up a whole new real of mounting and filling options for a system, I for one can't wait

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    I think they should have two threads on each side. Should work for the fillport-idea as well as sandwiched rads and generally opening up more options for tubing.

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    The only design I have seen so far that employs that is the Monsta rad. Would like all rads to have that design that is for sure. For me especially the BIX..*wink wink*

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    Monstas have this?! Damn, maybe I should cancel my Feser X-360 order and get one of those instead. I was planning on mounting this at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb View Post
    This is a tough call for me...
    It has its pluses and minuses.

    For me, filling up the loop is always a PITA. Putting the port right at the top would make that part a million times easier. Like you mentioned, you could pretty much bypass the reservoir/t-line, but there could be some issues...

    -Which end of the reservoir should it go on?
    -Manufacturers would have to standardize this location, otherwise you could end up with holes in the top of your case when you switch radiators.
    -The fillport would have to be recessed and/or it couldn't be attached to the top of the case, otherwise you couldn't easily get the top on/off.
    -I could make topping off a little tricky since you don't have much space for water column. It could also make knowing your water level a little difficult.

    I'm just playing devils advocate here.

    That said, I think it's an excellent idea, but one best left for DIY'ers and not manufactures.
    Swiftech has one with a top filport.
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24892
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    Quote Originally Posted by _G_ View Post
    Swiftech has one with a top filport.
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24892
    or http://www.tilatech.com/mcquposewiin.html on sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx View Post
    It's one of those things that would make life a lot easier for us watercoolers.
    For those of us that want to put the radiator flush to the roof, a reverse hole for a top drainport would make life a million times easier.
    You pretty much can bypass the reservoir and it makes filling up the case a breeze.

    I know the new swiftech radiators have the fillport toward the back, but not on the other side.

    So simply put, 2 threaded holes on one side, like a standard radiator, but 1 additional one behind it for linking directly to a top fillport.
    Man, didn't I tell you that they are coming? We made a limited series of 120's, 220's, and 320's. if they sell well, then we'll make more of course :-) They shipped ocean 3 weeks ago. I expect them next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S_G View Post
    Monstas have this?! Damn, maybe I should cancel my Feser X-360 order and get one of those instead. I was planning on mounting this at the top.
    a monsta won't fit in any case on the market today.... except for an MM with custom holes and a v2000 variant

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    Great news, Gabe!
    Looking forward to seeing those rads and hope they'll be available on this side of the pond, too.

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    yep, i also have thinked of that for radiator, hoping wiil be a radiator like that...

    4 thread in every radiator corner will be nice , i guess it will give more flexibility to put the loop, especially for drainport that will be come in really handy

    so far BI GT stealth that have 2 thread between two side

    well, it is just me

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    This would be a welcomed change as it would help a lot of people in setting up their loops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Man, didn't I tell you that they are coming? We made a limited series of 120's, 220's, and 320's. if they sell well, then we'll make more of course :-) They shipped ocean 3 weeks ago. I expect them next week.
    Excellent, I'm looking forward to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Man, didn't I tell you that they are coming? We made a limited series of 120's, 220's, and 320's. if they sell well, then we'll make more of course :-) They shipped ocean 3 weeks ago. I expect them next week.
    Can you provide a bit more information? What's new? I'm already planning on a MCR320-Res and a few MCR320-QPs because I will have lots of mounting room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Man, didn't I tell you that they are coming? We made a limited series of 120's, 220's, and 320's. if they sell well, then we'll make more of course :-) They shipped ocean 3 weeks ago. I expect them next week.
    Are you talking the SLI/sandwich style?

    If so i cant wait.

    And if so how has the initial performance been with them?
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    question for you gabe: would it not be worthwhile just to change the standard MCR-320 to have the 4 ports? I mean its not like people wont use the rad if it has the extra ports on it...

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    Ive been thinking about drilling and inserting a lager bung hole for my pa120.3 to make filling easier.
    Since i dont use a res or T-line.
    Just to lazy
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    everyone buy the new rads and not the old rads!

    then gabe will make more!



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    Yay....the further stupefying of a hobby that isn't rocket science....

    Why not just go all the way and put threaded bungs on every surface of both end tanks, like so.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    everyone buy the new rads and not the old rads!

    then gabe will make more!



    thanks for the innovation gabe!


    Yes i agree.
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