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  1. 02-17-2009, 12:24 PM #1
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    PII 720 Quad Core !! (not a typo)

    Looks like one core dud slipped through.
    http://www.i2net.me.uk/files/Overclo...from3-cpuz.gif
    http://www.i2net.me.uk/files/Overclo...rom3-amdod.gif
    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=510443
    That's very strange...

    But true, four cores as near as I can tell. Manually setting the CPU affinity while running SuperPI I can stress each core individually, I don't know what other tests I can perform to prove it's quad corelyness.

    There is of course a down side, even at 1GHz Prime95 on all cores fails, but with another chip, well, who knows ?

    And how do we unlock this 4th core ? Simple. On an Asus M3A79-T running the 703 bios you enable ACC. That's it

    Oh well, so I really do have a quad cripple, or is this just some SW anomaly ? Still @ 3.8GHz this cripple rocks
    Basically the other 3 cores clock to 3.8 but the 4th fails at only 1Ghz.

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17977875
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  2. 02-17-2009, 12:36 PM #2
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    that would be a hell of a find if AMD were to start using perfectly good quads to cripple into tricores
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    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    that would be a hell of a find if AMD were to start using perfectly good quads to cripple into tricores
    Well it has a bad 4th core so its not perfectly good
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  4. 02-17-2009, 01:30 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final8ty View Post
    Well it has a bad 4th core so its not perfectly good
    Technically speaking not bad ,but frequency limited .
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    I'd rather see the old, very rare, good cores slipping trough as bad cores.

    Like there were a few Opterons around with unlocked multipliers etc
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    This really seems like a no brainer.. either the 4th core was bad at creation, or it was purposely cripped.
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    This is like sleeping with 3 hot girls who insist on bringing their fat ugly friend with them, kinda not that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    Technically speaking not bad ,but frequency limited .
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    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    that would be a hell of a find if AMD were to start using perfectly good quads to cripple into tricores
    it's called business? Make a large batch and charge X amount for some Y amount for another. Keeping X amount up to make more money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    it's called business? Make a large batch and charge X amount for some Y amount for another. Keeping X amount up to make more money on it.
    Not sure what you think I was saying but all I meant was that It would be great if these could be found with the 4th core in perfect shape. obviously this one was not so I said if AMD started to use good quad cores to turn into tricores instead of damaged ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azraeel101 View Post
    This is like sleeping with 3 hot girls who insist on bringing their fat ugly friend with them, kinda not that great.

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