wont prime for over 1 min so not at all. If I could keep the temp down It could probly be stable with a bit more tweaking.
wont prime for over 1 min so not at all. If I could keep the temp down It could probly be stable with a bit more tweaking.
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Heres a new stable clock. Same chip as used on the Biostar board, now on the Asus 79-T w/water cooling. Could probably get more out of the IMC but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a factor....
Chip Model: 940 BE
Stepping : CACVC AC 0850 BPDW
Frequency : 3848
Vcore : 1.5875
NB Freq : 2288 (1.25v)
Memory : 2x1GB @ 1110 Mhz
Mobo : Asus M3A79-T (bios 602)
Cooling : Water
OpSys : XP 64 bit
AMD FX-8350 (1237 PGN) | Asus Crosshair V Formula (bios 1703) | G.Skill 2133 CL9 @ 2230 9-11-10 | Sapphire HD 6870 | Samsung 830 128Gb SSD / 2 WD 1Tb Black SATA3 storage | Corsair TX750 PSU
Watercooled ST 120.3 & TC 120.1 / MCP35X XSPC Top / Apogee HD Block | WIN7 64 Bit HP | Corsair 800D Obsidian Case
First Computer: Commodore Vic 20 (circa 1981).
more good stuff
heres 4.26ghz cpuz validation
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=492331
and new 3dm06 at 4.18ghz http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9765859
Last edited by Titan7171; 01-25-2009 at 01:16 AM.
AMD 1090T@4.0ghz
Enzotech sapphire/Mo-Ra extreme rad
Asus Crosshair IV Formula
ht 2400mhz / nb 2400mhz
12gb Gskill 1300mhz
HIS HD5970
Enermax Evo Galaxy 1250
case: XCLIO A380PLUS-BK
4.61ghz water
4.5ghz superpi 1M 15.585
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...rpi4500mhz.jpg
25,396 06 Phenom 965@ 4.4ghz HIS 5970@960/1260
21,893 Vantage, Phenom 965 4.2ghz HIS 5970 @960/1260
Phenom 2 125w 965 test results
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=117414
Phenom 2 140w 965 test results
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=109214
Phenom 2 AM2+ 940 cold air results
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...ad.php?t=97430
If I dont get every single drop out of my cpu I feel like someone is stealing from me
1. ASUS Sabertooth 990fx | FX 8320 || 2. DFI DK 790FXB-M3H5 | X4 810
8GB Samsung 30nm DDR3-2000 9-10-10-28 || 4GB PSC DDR3-1333 6-7-6-21
Corsair TX750W | Sapphire 6970 2GB || BeQuiet PurePower 450w | HD 4850
EK Supreme | AC aquagratix | Laing Pro | MoRa 2 || Aircooled
Updated. Anyone I missed please PM me with a link to your post or a copy of the submission info.
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
AMD 1090T@4.0ghz
Enzotech sapphire/Mo-Ra extreme rad
Asus Crosshair IV Formula
ht 2400mhz / nb 2400mhz
12gb Gskill 1300mhz
HIS HD5970
Enermax Evo Galaxy 1250
case: XCLIO A380PLUS-BK
4.61ghz water
4.5ghz superpi 1M 15.585
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...rpi4500mhz.jpg
25,396 06 Phenom 965@ 4.4ghz HIS 5970@960/1260
21,893 Vantage, Phenom 965 4.2ghz HIS 5970 @960/1260
Phenom 2 125w 965 test results
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=117414
Phenom 2 140w 965 test results
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...d.php?t=109214
Phenom 2 AM2+ 940 cold air results
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...ad.php?t=97430
If I dont get every single drop out of my cpu I feel like someone is stealing from me
http://faior.miumau.net/superpi4.06.JPG some cold air run
Nothing interesting here.
Last edited by m411b; 01-25-2009 at 03:55 PM.
Great idea! - imo. this will be my benchmark to jump onboard.
I was going to build a Core i7 workstation this year but I'm just not feeling the warm fuzziness I got when I built my Opteron workstation's(OC value).
So I'm gonna wait for PII silicon to improve and see how things look from there.
I can buy a second video card with the money I will save building an AMD rig
Step aside, and you won't have to feel the awesome wrath of my mustache!
Im topping out at 3.63ghz right now, I havent really played too much yet because I was out of town but seems like Im hitting a wall somewhere, and it def isnt temp. I havent really bumped the voltage over 1.38v on the proc either though, anyways here are my results:
Also debating swapping mobos out if I cant get past this. Is anyone enabling ACC? Not really sure if its applicable as a mobo setting due to it being enabled already on the proc itself now.
It's the vcore probably,for 3.7-3.8Ghz you'll need around 1.45-1.5V(my estimate from known results at XS).If you have good cooling 1.5V isn't that high(1.35V is def.)
So with the vcore at 1.45v it should still be safe? Im using the Noctua U12P in my sig and I have yet to see my proc under core temp exceed 40C. Thanks :-)
Would anyone be interested in my running tests with the spec benchmark for 3dsmax 9? I'm downloading the benchmark for fun but I could test scaling across a range of speeds from stock to 4.1ghz if it would be of use to anyone. I would do solidworks too, but I'm not sure if my version is the right one for the benchmark.
Not much to say right now.
Just a quick recap in case anyone runs into this issue. This was my experience but YMMV. I purchased the Foxconn A7DA-S with the 940 and it will not POST. I took a friend's AM2 chip and it POSTED. Created a USB "boot disk" with the latest bios, P06, and flashed the board. Popped the old AM2 chip out and the 940 in. The computer POST and then booted up completely. So if your mobo doesn't POST, then you'll more than likely have to use another AM2 chip to flash the board first. This is for the A7DA-S board. It seems like those with the A79A-S bios, it POST but only identified the CPU as an AMD unknown cpu. This brings me to the next few quotes:
With the P06 bios on the A7DA-S board, the multiplier that I see is in the xNN.N format, not in hex. From what I remember, it went all the way up to x30 as the max multiplier. I don't know if they have made any changes to the BIOS since you guys have flashed it or it's due to the different boards (maybe the NB chipset? 790FX vs the 790GX?). Just my experience.
Last edited by dawei213; 01-26-2009 at 10:50 AM.
Phenom II x4 940
Foxconn A7DA-S
OCZ Reaper 2x2gb
MSI Radeon 4850
PCP&C S16EPS 610W Continuous
Sunbeam CR-CCTF w/ 120mm YL
Antec P180
and Storage!!!
Please show some stabilitytest-screenies.. like OCCT.. running..
Just to document anything regarding "temperatures" (coretemp=same for all cores on Phenom=one sensor) and other usages than running CPU-Z.
@dawei213:
Some boards/bios'es do not have a problem booting with an "unknown CPU".
Others again will not boot.
My Gigabyte GA-MA69G-DS3H and MSI DKA790GX boot'ed up fine with X4 920, even with a bios "not supporting" PhenomII.
Flashed.. to get "support" (and CPU "ID String") and more otpions in Bios.. for both mb's.
This is the way it should be. There are no special instructions in a new CPU-model that should stop it from booting in a pin-compatible socket.
Where can I grab OCCT?
Here's a little more for you just finished playing with 3dmark Ill run prime a little later... Still not happy with 3.7ghz, I want atleast 3.8 before I give up. Granted this is just 3dmark and not a multithreaded prime instance but here's a little more:
From Coretemp while running 3dmark:
13:39:58,33°,,,27°,35°,92%,3700.40 MHz,
13:40:09,33°,,,27°,35°,97%,3700.40 MHz,
13:40:18,33°,,,27°,35°,83%,3700.40 MHz,
13:40:28,33°,,,27°,35°,100%,3700.40 MHz,
13:40:38,33°,,,27°,35°,100%,3700.40 MHz,
13:40:48,33°,,,27°,35°,100%,3700.40 MHz,
13:40:58,33°,,,27°,35°,94%,3700.40 MHz,
13:41:08,33°,,,27°,35°,88%,3700.40 MHz,
13:41:24,33°,,,27°,35°,97%,3700.40 MHz,
13:41:29,33°,,,27°,35°,32%,3700.40 MHz,
13:41:39,39°,,,27°,39°,94%,3700.40 MHz,
13:41:49,40°,,,27°,40°,97%,3700.40 MHz,
13:42:01,39°,,,27°,40°,95%,3700.40 MHz,
13:42:09,38°,,,27°,40°,85%,3700.40 MHz,
13:42:19,40°,,,27°,40°,95%,3700.40 MHz,
And also my 3dmark score after running:
heatware chew*
I've got no strings to hold me down.
To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
There are no strings on me
I posted this in a couple of other forums but for those of you who do not visit those I have some good news and some bad news.
The bad news is I no longer have the (ES) chip as I sold it off to someone else so I could get a Retail chip to see if it was pretty much the same. Why do I say that is bad news............well.....it was not a Phenom II 940 BE (ES) AM2+ chip......it was a Phenom II 945 BE (ES) AM3 chip. I just confirmed it today when I took a look at the pins on the AM2+ version and they are different. There are other things that have caused a suspicion as well, but this actually sealed the deal.
Anyway some one is going to have some fun if they can get them an AM3 MB and some good DDR3.
"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give." --Winston Churchill
3DMark Vantage - 19,552 -- 3DMark06 - 25,066 -- 3DMark05 - 31,688 -- 3DMark03 - 114,287 -- CPU-Z - 4800MHz
Denb vs. Agena - Clock for Clock & Deneb Overclocking Results
My Water Dragon:
CPU: Phenom II 965 BE X4 (CACYC AC 0931DPMW)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech Apogee GTZ (Custom H2O)
MotherBaord: ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe
Bios: 0701
Graphics: 3x VisionTek 4870 512MB
Display: HP w2007
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
Power: Ultra X3 1000W
Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 590
The good news is that it is indeed a 945 and that we could see some results sooner than later for the 945. Also we now have an idea of how they will overclock on the current platform as well.
I actually sold it for the same price I paid for it + $5 for shipping. If I would have known what it was I would have never sold it, but bought a new MB when they became available.
"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give." --Winston Churchill
3DMark Vantage - 19,552 -- 3DMark06 - 25,066 -- 3DMark05 - 31,688 -- 3DMark03 - 114,287 -- CPU-Z - 4800MHz
Denb vs. Agena - Clock for Clock & Deneb Overclocking Results
My Water Dragon:
CPU: Phenom II 965 BE X4 (CACYC AC 0931DPMW)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech Apogee GTZ (Custom H2O)
MotherBaord: ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe
Bios: 0701
Graphics: 3x VisionTek 4870 512MB
Display: HP w2007
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
Power: Ultra X3 1000W
Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 590
doh
better luck next time buddy
Here
3DM06 does not stress your cores much compared to OCCT.Originally Posted by DPGX
The cores will never really reach the maximum (stable) temp for your current setup (high end air cooler).
Here is an example from my latest stable testing (I am impatient, and use 30min as OCCt-stable. Note that the temps are still rising somewhat during that session.. I am using water-cooling - 1x240mm radiator).
Phenom II 940BE
Stepping: CACVC AC 0850DPMW 80381
Speed: 3600 MHz
CPU VID: 1.432V
NB Speed: 2200 MHz
HT Link: 1800 MHz
Memory: 533 MHz
Memory Specs: 4x1Gb Crucial Ballistix Tracers PC2-8500 Un-ganged
Motherboard: MSI K9A2 Platinum Ver 1.0 Bios 1.7B4
Cooling: Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme w/ Scythe S-Flex SFF21F in a pull config.
Windows XP SP3
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