Hailea HC-500 or HC-1000 Any Good For Water Chilling?

[Rodriguez]

You'd better invested your money in a large reservoir, my opinion.
Hailea 500 keeps my reservoir at constant 16-17`c,when setup is stressed, 2minutes on, 5 minutes off.
It's just that 5 litre of fluid can't buffer the heat your setup gives.
With a reservoir you have a buffer, warm water mixes with cold, so less to cool.
I guess your hailea 1000 still keeps running and have a hard time cooling the fluid.
Those chillers were made for aquariums with 150-200 ltr water.
Let us know how your Hailea 1000 performs, 1hp is serious chilling

I know you are absolutely right about the reservoir & know that it would definately keep a constant flow of cool water to the res & at the same time a separate pump would pull that water through the computer blocks

But....

I'm a married man & I cannot just pick up any ugly looking 30 or 50 litre res & stick it in my home office without having a big discussion with my wife. It sounds like a lame excuse but it's the truth.

I'lll keep an eye out for some nice "something" that could be used a a res.

[Justifire]

I know you are absolutely right about the reservoir & know that it would definately keep a constant flow of cool water to the res & at the same time a separate pump would pull that water through the computer blocks

But....

I'm a married man & I cannot just pick up any ugly looking 30 or 50 litre res & stick it in my home office without having a big discussion with my wife. It sounds like a lame excuse but it's the truth.

I'lll keep an eye out for some nice "something" that could be used a a res.

I used a 110 mm pvc pipe with an u-turn, mounted to the wall behind my desk, out of the sight.
Might be a posibility for you.
Or make 2 holes in the floor and put your reservoir in the basement
I'm still interested in the hailea 1000 results, with some isolation you might be able to set your chiller to -10`c

[Rodriguez]

I used a 110 mm pvc pipe with an u-turn, mounted to the wall behind my desk, out of the sight.
Might be a posibility for you.
Or make 2 holes in the floor and put your reservoir in the basement
I'm still interested in the hailea 1000 results, with some isolation you might be able to set your chiller to -10`c

Well, I live in an apartment/flat/or whatever you call a house that's on a building, so my "basement" is my neighbour's house underneath

I'll get one of my employees to build a box for the chiller to keep it a bit quieter & I'll try to find a nice reservoir that I can stick on top of the box.

I don't think the chiller will cool subzero at all since the minimum temp is 4 Cº, but we shall see...

I have a bunch of self-adhesive Armaflex tubing for the 19 OD Tygon tubes but I don't know if it will do any good unless the actual CPU/NB/VGA blocks get insulation also? if so, how to proceed?

[Justifire]

Well, I live in an apartment/flat/or whatever you call a house that's on a building, so my "basement" is my neighbour's house underneath

I'll get one of my employees to build a box for the chiller to keep it a bit quieter & I'll try to find a nice reservoir that I can stick on top of the box.

I don't think the chiller will cool subzero at all since the minimum temp is 4 Cº, but we shall see...

I have a bunch of self-adhesive Armaflex tubing for the 19 OD Tygon tubes but I don't know if it will do any good unless the actual CPU/NB/VGA blocks get insulation also? if so, how to proceed?

Yes, you definatly need to insulate your waterblocks if you go far under ambient temps.
Not so difficult, just buy a plate of thick neopreen/armaflex and cut some layers.
Begin with squares and build up from there to the top of the waterblock, like building a box.
Don't forget to insulate the back of your mobo.
And insulate your videocard as well
I have done this in the past (year or 7 ago) when i was using a Mach phase change for my processor and another one for my videocard.
Lot's of work when you want to do it right, enough for me to go with 16`c without insulation

[Justifire]

Rodriguez, have you received the unit yet ?

[Rodriguez]

Rodriguez, have you received the unit yet ?

I have & it's just HUGE, the fan is much louder than the 1500 & of course it cools better, but not by much although I think the oil filter was blocked cause it took longer to reach 12 Cº than the 1500

So I had a techinician come to my house to replace the oil filter, change the R136A coolant with 406 & install fill/drain ports.

Now it keeps the marked temp at full load (Prime95 Small FTT + SLI Furmark at 1240x1024 4xAA) with Core i7 at 4.2Ghz 1.46vCore- 1.56vQPI & GPU's 730/1684/2500

Lowest temp I tried was 10 Cº & it got there after a while, minimum temp alowable is 4 Cº.

I'll have to fill a bit more 406 gas into the chiller cause it still takes too long from startup to desired temp. The technician told me that the extremely powerful fan was keeping the unit from reaching the temps faster, I'm not really knowledgeable on this but what he was saying was that if there was a bit more heat inside the chiller case it would cool much quicker. He suggested lowering the fan speed. We actually blocked the fan from starting & it was true.

Anyways, I'll need to install the chiller really FAAAAR away from me soon or else the noise will drive me nuts, it just makes me feel soo nervous. It's the freaking fan pushing air through the back plastic grill that makes 99% of the noise, when I took out all the covers it made about half the noise.


I'm not sure if a higher flow would be better for keeping temps & of course a big reservoir also.

[Justifire]

I have & it's just HUGE, the fan is much louder than the 1500 & of course it cools better, but not by much although I think the oil filter was blocked cause it took longer to reach 12 Cº than the 1500

So I had a techinician come to my house to replace the oil filter, change the R136A coolant with 406 & install fill/drain ports.

Now it keeps the marked temp at full load (Prime95 Small FTT + SLI Furmark at 1240x1024 4xAA) with Core i7 at 4.2Ghz 1.46vCore- 1.56vQPI & GPU's 730/1684/2500

Lowest temp I tried was 10 Cº & it got there after a while, minimum temp alowable is 4 Cº.

I'll have to fill a bit more 406 gas into the chiller cause it still takes too long from startup to desired temp. The technician told me that the extremely powerful fan was keeping the unit from reaching the temps faster, I'm not really knowledgeable on this but what he was saying was that if there was a bit more heat inside the chiller case it would cool much quicker. He suggested lowering the fan speed. We actually blocked the fan from starting & it was true.

Anyways, I'll need to install the chiller really FAAAAR away from me soon or else the noise will drive me nuts, it just makes me feel soo nervous. It's the freaking fan pushing air through the back plastic grill that makes 99% of the noise, when I took out all the covers it made about half the noise.


I'm not sure if a higher flow would be better for keeping temps & of course a big reservoir also.

Haha, you're on it
Refilled with 406, when cold isn't cold enough
Good to see it can handle low temps on full load, something the 1500 has a hard job without a reservoir.
I stil can recommend the reservoir, 80% on time on load hailea is no fun.
As you live in an apartment, dont you have a balcony ?
Sitting right next to the chiller is a NO-GO !!

Is that max oc you get on i7 965 ?

[Rodriguez]

Haha, you're on it
Refilled with 406, when cold isn't cold enough
Good to see it can handle low temps on full load, something the 1500 has a hard job without a reservoir.
I stil can recommend the reservoir, 80% on time on load hailea is no fun.
As you live in an apartment, dont you have a balcony ?
Sitting right next to the chiller is a NO-GO !!

Is that max oc you get on i7 965 ?

I have a balcony but I'll ve moving to my new house in 2 months so I will skip making holes in the wall right now.

4.2Ghz is not max at all, it's a medium oc with 1.46v that with load droop goes down to 1.40v. If I enable Loadline with the same voltage I can reach 4.350Ghz, (I have to use those voltages to keep the system stable with 12Gb, if I use only 6Gb I only need about 1.36v for that 4.2) I haven't even tried going higher as I'm not what you would call a "real" overclocker, I just like to have something powerful that can run all games at 30´ res. & I'm not the kind that likes spending weeks testing OC's, I prefer playing & such, after reaching an acceptable power range.



Every now & then I go at it again & try some different settings to reach higher 24/365 OC.

[Rodriguez]

I have a balcony but I'll ve moving to my new house in 2 months so I will skip making holes in the wall right now.

4.2Ghz is not max at all, it's a medium oc with 1.46v that with load droop goes down to 1.40v. If I enable Loadline with the same voltage I can reach 4.350Ghz, (I have to use those voltages to keep the system stable with 12Gb, if I use only 6Gb I only need about 1.36v for that 4.2) I haven't even tried going higher as I'm not what you would call a "real" overclocker, I just like to have something powerful that can run all games at 30´ res. & I'm not the kind that likes spending weeks testing OC's, I prefer playing & such, after reaching an acceptable power range.



Every now & then I go at it again & try some different settings to reach higher 24/365 OC.

UPDATE:

I did a 2nd refill (better said: additional fill) of 406 gas in the chiller & now... it runs even better. it goes from 20 Cº to 13 Cº in 5-6 minutes.

I even tried it at 4 Cº but the filter & other pipes inside get full of ice at about 9Cº making a little pond on the floor of the chiller when I switch it off.


I'm very happy with the performance, it keeps everything very cool at the expense of a big power bill & a deaf ear

[patgarr]

Hi guys, What about noise about the Hailea HC500 ???

is it really loud like people says ?

[malkiewicz]

Oceanic Aquarium Chillers are very quiet... I have the 1HP version….

[LeeH]

Oceanic Aquarium Chillers are very quiet... I have the 1HP version….

Little more detail would be nice. I've been considering a larger acquarium chiller. I don't really want to go sub ambient because I don't want to deal with condensation. but I would like it either at or a little below ambient.

Are the Oceanic chillers the quietest out there or have you looked and are there others. Why 1 HP. What drove you to that?

[malkiewicz]

Yes I've owned a few chillers and Oceanic is by far the quietest on the market (I hardly notice it when the compressor / fan are running)... Note: The exhaust fan blows out allot of heat. You could probably use this as a heater during the winter months... Currently I'm using my 1HP chiller for a 500gal fish tank but I hooked it up to my computer prior to see how it would work... It worked great but I wasn’t using the rated pump so the water started to freeze after a few minutes (I wasn’t about to use my aquarium pump for this test)... Unfortunately I really can’t provide you with allot of data but I was running Prime95 (58C) when I tested this chiller and within minutes the temps started to drop dramatically and I had condensation on the lines after about 2 minutes.. IMO this is not a good option if you’re going to keep it in a small room or office because of the heat… Ooo and this thing weighs about 32kgs (living areas are okay). The lower the HP the quieter the system will be, and I’m sure the ½ HP has plenty of power and it’s designed for continues cooling… Hope this helps a little…

[Rodriguez]

Yes I've owned a few chillers and Oceanic is by far the quietest on the market (I hardly notice it when the compressor / fan are running)... Note: The exhaust fan blows out allot of heat. You could probably use this as a heater during the winter months... Currently I'm using my 1HP chiller for a 500gal fish tank but I hooked it up to my computer prior to see how it would work... It worked great but I wasn’t using the rated pump so the water started to freeze after a few minutes (I wasn’t about to use my aquarium pump for this test)... Unfortunately I really can’t provide you with allot of data but I was running Prime95 (58C) when I tested this chiller and within minutes the temps started to drop dramatically and I had condensation on the lines after about 2 minutes.. IMO this is not a good option if you’re going to keep it in a small room or office because of the heat… Ooo and this thing weighs about 32kgs (living areas are okay). The lower the HP the quieter the system will be, and I’m sure the ½ HP has plenty of power and it’s designed for continues cooling… Hope this helps a little…

I'm interested to know which Oceanic 1HP model you are using. the only reason for changing my actual chiller is noise.

[Gray5000]

Hey, I've just read the review in Custom PC form the Hailea HC-500 and in response thought I'd do some research, so here I am. I see this threads like a year old but didn't want to start up a new post.

I'm reading about condensation being a problem but I don't get it. Surely if the Hailea has a temperature setting on it, can't you just set it to a stable temp above room temp and as the components run hotter the Hailea will just work hard and keep them at that stable temp above room temp?
If this is the case then why does anyone even care about zubzero temps if the Hailia can just keep the component at a set stable temp regardless of how high you clock or how much heat it's producing?

Or have I completely misunderstood; forgive me if so.

Thanks

[Varsos]

Hey Gray, you can use the chiller this way too but the point having a chiller is to cool the water at sub-ambient temps.Staying a little above ambient can be done with multiple rads in watercooling. On the other hand condensation does not occur immediately under ambient temp.It depends on temp and humidity.There are calculators for that.For example at 30C ambient and 50% humidity condensation will occur at about 18-19C so you have a gain of 11-12C cooling your water under ambient that is quiet nice i think.

Hope i helped.....

[Grinchy]

I hear that a Hailea (1/2 hp) HC 500 is able to bring temp of a overclocked cpu + sli videocards + mb waterblock well below ambient temperature
Would a HC 300(1/4 hp) version be enough? after all the hc 500 consumes a lot of energy and if it is not really necessary it would be wasted.
I would have to cool a sr-2 mb , 2 xeon x5650 @4,2 ghz 1.4v, and one or two gtx 480.

[Rodriguez]

I hear that a Hailea (1/2 hp) HC 500 is able to bring temp of a overclocked cpu + sli videocards + mb waterblock well below ambient temperature
Would a HC 300(1/4 hp) version be enough? after all the hc 500 consumes a lot of energy and if it is not really necessary it would be wasted.
I would have to cool a sr-2 mb , 2 xeon x5650 @4,2 ghz 1.4v, and one or two gtx 480.

I used to have the HC500 with 965x at 4.4+Evga Classified E759 & GTX280 OC SLI, it could not cope with the load during stress tests with water set to 14 ºC, it slowly rose to 25ºC..26...

I replaced it with HC1000 & changed gas from R134 to R406, now it keeps water temps of 14-15 ºC (set to 14 to avoid condensation) with 975x + Evga Classified + 3way SLI EVGA GTX480 but....

The fan is extremely noisy (unbearable) & the room temp heats up to 30 ºC in less than an hour of running it. AC is required or at least very good ventilation & headphones...

I'm trying to replace the fan with some other type or replace it with 4 smaller ones in grid array

[Grinchy]

Did you try lowering the water temperature while stressing it? Isn't 4° the minimum?How was the noise of the hc500?
would it be an easy thing to replace fan of the radiator with more silent ones?
How loud is the hc 1000 compared to a gtx 480 at 100% fan?
From what you say it seems that with my load i would at least need hc1000...but there seems to be too many downsides like the fact that it consumes heaps of energy

[Rodriguez]

Did you try lowering the water temperature while stressing it? Isn't 4° the minimum?How was the noise of the hc500?
would it be an easy thing to replace fan of the radiator with more silent ones?
How loud is the hc 1000 compared to a gtx 480 at 100% fan?
From what you say it seems that with my load i would at least need hc1000...but there seems to be too many downsides like the fact that it consumes heaps of energy

Yes, it goes lower & it keeps the temperature (but remember that I changed gas to R406), yes 4ºC is the minimum. As far as I can remember the HC500 was a little quieter overall than the HC1000 (the HC500 had a louder alternating compressor & quieter fan & the HC1000 has a near silent rotary compressor but much louder fan), but the HC500 cannot cope with the temps properly, unless you change the type & load of the gas & use a large reservoir as others have suggested.

The noise it makes can be compared to a hand dryer (like the ones in public wc). Right now I have the chiller in my company's workshop insulating the interior with felt for sound dampening, putting a shroud around the fan to reduce noise & installing a voltage regulator on the fan cables to lower it's speed. I will let you know if it works.

But power consumption of a 1Hp compressor & the power fan is really high...

[Bullu$]

I also have a Hailea HC-500 but the temps of the cpu isn't that good, but temps of my 2x5850 are good.

[Hardware]
Xeon W3540
Asus Rampage II Extreme
Corsair Dominator 3gb 1866 cl9
2x HD 5850 ,1x EK-fullcoverblok and 1x MCW60-r + Swiftech heatsinks

Hailea>Hydor l30>cpu (XSPC X20 Delta V3)>5850>5850>reservoir

temps


Ambienttemp=22degrees
Humidity=51%
Hailea set temp=14degrees

setup

The ddc 1 pump+ reservoir i did't use.

So what could be the problem ,why the temps of the cpu is so much higher?

[Rodriguez]

I also have a Hailea HC-500 but the temps of the cpu isn't that good, but temps of my 2x5850 are good.

[Hardware]
Xeon W3540
Asus Rampage II Extreme
Corsair Dominator 3gb 1866 cl9
2x HD 5850 ,1x EK-fullcoverblok and 1x MCW60-r + Swiftech heatsinks

Hailea>Hydor l30>cpu (XSPC X20 Delta V3)>5850>5850>reservoir

temps


Ambienttemp=22degrees
Humidity=51%
Hailea set temp=14degrees

setup

The ddc 1 pump+ reservoir i did't use.

So what could be the problem ,why the temps of the cpu is so much higher?

If it's working properly (the CPU block is seated properly), on idle the CPU temp (not core temps) should be the same as water temp 14-15 Cº. But during load the CPU temp will rise & will depend on your chiller's capability & pump speed/flow to cool it.

Your CPU temps OC´d & running Linx are fine for the HC500, did you expect them to be the same as the coolant Cº??

EDIT: with the chillers I'm running Dual DDC 1+ coupled on a EK dual turbo top for good flow

[Bullu$]

I used to have the HC500 with 965x at 4.4+Evga Classified E759 & GTX280 OC SLI, it could not cope with the load during stress tests with water set to 14 ºC, it slowly rose to 25ºC..26...

I replaced it with HC1000 & changed gas from R134 to R406, now it keeps water temps of 14-15 ºC (set to 14 to avoid condensation) with 975x + Evga Classified + 3way SLI EVGA GTX480 but....

The fan is extremely noisy (unbearable) & the room temp heats up to 30 ºC in less than an hour of running it. AC is required or at least very good ventilation & headphones...

I'm trying to replace the fan with some other type or replace it with 4 smaller ones in grid array

Because u get 25/26C on load!

My idle temp of the cpu never are around 14degrees, more like 25/26 degrees on idle.

Im gonna get a new cpu-block (EK-Supreme HF - Full Copper) maybe that will help

[Rodriguez]

No no, that was the WATER temp not holding the 14 Cº I set it to, it slowly rose past 26 Cº during stress testing CPU & GPU OC'd, the CPU temps were 41/47 Cº that's why I replaced it with the HC1000 unit.

[Bullu$]

Ok my bad, thought it was your cpu-temps. my haliea temp only have a delta temp of 2degrees up or so then it turns on.