Foxconn BloodRage Issues / BIOS Bugs Thread

[Touge180SX]

Skipped

Must have been really bad!

[saaya]

G18 too
well not realy bad, just not worth to release if A is fixed but somehow B is broken...

good to hear cas7 is working fine now

[OverClocker_gr]

With tha latest i can set my ram timmings just perfect

but the annoying thing with RAID enabled and cant boot from sata dvd-rom is still there.

Anything about that?
For me its a major problem.

With PATA dvd-rom i can boot just fine.

Maybe the problem is that the bios sets the dvd-rom as achi

[rwoodburn1]

I finally got my account working.Looks like an awesome place to share in the fun.I got the g19 bios .Thanks saaya.The only issue I am having is a slow cold boot.My system powers on and fans start to spin then it stops,spins up again then boots.This happens with or without overclocking.System runs perfect after it boots up.On bios g16 I dont have this issue.My rev no is 1.0.One more thing same issue when I swap psu for Toughpower 1200.This is gonna be a great board.I have allready gotten a stable clock of 4.4ghz and semi stable at 4.5.

[dengyong]

I finally got my account working.Looks like an awesome place to share in the fun.I got the g19 bios .Thanks saaya.The only issue I am having is a slow cold boot.My system powers on and fans start to spin then it stops,spins up again then boots.This happens with or without overclocking.System runs perfect after it boots up.On bios g16 I dont have this issue.My rev no is 1.0.One more thing same issue when I swap psu for Toughpower 1200.This is gonna be a great board.I have allready gotten a stable clock of 4.4ghz and semi stable at 4.5.

I get that on G13 as well.

[saaya]

With tha latest i can set my ram timmings just perfect

but the annoying thing with RAID enabled and cant boot from sata dvd-rom is still there.

Anything about that?
For me its a major problem.

With PATA dvd-rom i can boot just fine.

Maybe the problem is that the bios sets the dvd-rom as achi

is it the same for using the marvell and the ich10 sata connectors?
just use the other sata slots and try.
for us it works fine, we can boot from vista dvd on a sata optical drive in raid mode and install vista on a raid array...

I finally got my account working.Looks like an awesome place to share in the fun.I got the g19 bios .Thanks saaya.The only issue I am having is a slow cold boot.My system powers on and fans start to spin then it stops,spins up again then boots.This happens with or without overclocking.System runs perfect after it boots up.On bios g16 I dont have this issue.My rev no is 1.0.One more thing same issue when I swap psu for Toughpower 1200.This is gonna be a great board.I have allready gotten a stable clock of 4.4ghz and semi stable at 4.5.

damn thats nice!

I get that on G13 as well.

about the cold boot psu thing, that might be a small psu compatibility problem, the voltages go up too slow at first boot and the caps need to load first. warmboots work fine, right?

ill add a note to the psu compatibility list

[BenchZowner]

is it the same for using the marvell and the ich10 sata connectors?
just use the other sata slots and try.
for us it works fine, we can boot from vista dvd on a sata optical drive in raid mode and install vista on a raid array...

I have faced that issue as well on G13.
I had a RAID 0 array consisting of 3 Samsung F1 1TB drives and a Optiarc 7191S SATA Optical Drive ( all on the Intel ICH10R ).
It worked fine just like that, booting from the optical drive, installing Windows, etc.

When I plugged in another F1 1TB disk ( single drive, not added to the RAID array ) I couldn't boot from the optical drive just like OverClocker_gr.
I unplugged the 4th F1 1TB and it booted fine from the optical drive and then I hot-plugged the 4th HDD

Can't tell what exactly causes this issue, at least not yet.

[saaya]

hmmm could you please check wich sata slots you are using bill and oc_gr?
i have a feeling it might have to do with the sata slots your using, some may work and some may cause problems when raid is active.
i remember there was something like this on nvidia chipsets, some sata ports could only work in ahci mode or something...
does anybody else remember that?

[BenchZowner]

I tried plugging the 4th HDD and the optiarc on all 3 remaining ports back then if I recall correctly, with the same outcome ( couldn't boot from the optical drive without removing the 4th Samsung F1 1TB ).
I will try that again later on just to make sure.

[OverClocker_gr]

is it the same for using the marvell and the ich10 sata connectors?
just use the other sata slots and try.
for us it works fine, we can boot from vista dvd on a sata optical drive in raid mode and install vista on a raid array...

This was the key point.

I find what was causing that.

If i put first the raid(i.e slots 1/2) and the dvd rom(3-6), its unable to boot.

If i put first the dvd rom(slot 1) and then the raid(2/3,3/4....), it boots from dvd rom.

Although this is still not right.

[RayderR6]

With tha latest i can set my ram timmings just perfect

but the annoying thing with RAID enabled and cant boot from sata dvd-rom is still there.

Anything about that?
For me its a major problem.

With PATA dvd-rom i can boot just fine.

Maybe the problem is that the bios sets the dvd-rom as achi

You're not alone OverClocker, I am having the same extensive problems you are beyond what Touge and BenchZ had.
I have taken many crazy mad steps and the room is just spinning. I have been at this for days.

I am going to try moving the ports around like Saaya suggests and you have found a little relief doing, but it is truly last ditch effort.

I am trying to stripe 2 velociraptors, but not for the OS. I am putting the OS on an OCZ Apex and it doesn't matter if I try to install on Apex or unplug it and install on velociraptors. AHCI worked fine in the past loading the OS on a single velociraptor, but of course for SSD, it is a no go. Everything works find in IDE.

I have followed every other posted step and a few of my own creations that have got me close, but no cheerleader. I have never had to dance like this for raid.

If port swapping doesn't work, I may just tell everyone everything I tried.

Oh ya, P03 and G13.

UPDATE to POST: Port swapping worked. I have to have the optical in the first physical SATA port while in RAID mode or I will never be able to boot from the optical drive.

[xXlAinXx]

Hello RayderR6 and OverClocker_gr
This one seems ODD but do u both Set:

Over Integrated Peripherals > OnChip IDE Device

SATA Mode = RAID
OnBoard IDE and eSata Chip = AHCI + IDE Mode

If not, do it and check too uor Removable/CD-ROM Boot Device Priority on Advanced BIOS Features.

Best regards

[RayderR6]

Hello RayderR6 and OverClocker_gr
This one seems ODD but do u both Set:

Over Integrated Peripherals > OnChip IDE Device

SATA Mode = RAID
OnBoard IDE and eSata Chip = AHCI + IDE Mode

If not, do it and check too uor Removable/CD-ROM Boot Device Priority on Advanced BIOS Features.

Best regards

Hello xX1AinXx, I'm using G13 today.

UPDATE and Edited Original POST: I can confirm on my system if I set the Jmicron IDE and eSata to RAID+IDE or AHCI+IDE, the following errors occur (these do not happen if set to IDE or Disabled).

1) During post there will be 2 repeat lines which are a brighter white and sit on top of normal post text stating "WARNING: Have Option ROM can not be invoke (Vendor ID: 197Bh, Device ID: 2363h)"

2) When I get to the point of a Vista installation where you select the HDD to install on, the following 2 errors occur and it doesn't matter if it's raid volume or ssd or even if the ssd is hooked up (i.e. raid volume platters only):
A) "Windows is unable to find a system volume that meets its criteria for installation."
B) "This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disks controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu."

It has occured to me that Jmicron drivers need to be installed, but I'm not sure as I did not try (ICH10R x64 drivers didn't make a difference). If the Jmicron drivers needed to be installed then this isn't the way I want to go anyway.

With the Jmicron in IDE or Disabled, my ICH10R volumes worked just fine after Vista was loaded anyway, so I didn't spend anymore time with this.

[RayderR6]

Moderator, please delete this post. Thank you

[xXlAinXx]

Well then, my mistake! I pointed to the manual, please follow these photo.

Quick Raid Setup

Requirements:

One already Active RAID Array. ( CTRL-I at boot Time, for enter on Intel Storage Manager Configuration ROM )
If uor target is installing uor Main OS on this newly created Array, then u need some spare time to fresh install our OS. - see *

Note * U cannot change through IDE RAID AHCI, even some time APIC Mode once u installed uor OS.
Note2 * Some SSD will wont work if AHCI is enable see uor SSD Manufacturer FAQ.
Note3 * Check on uor Manufacturer device FAQ if uor peripheral are able to support AHCI otherwise use IDE.

1- Move on Integrated Peripherals.



2 - Select OnChip IDE Device.



3 - Leave those setting in:

Intel ICH10 SATA Mode = RAID
Jmicron 363 PATA and eSATA = AHCI + IDE Mode

(if u dont mind to using SAS - Disable it as well )



4 - Now, move to Boot Setting Configuration.



5 - As follow open AHCI Configuration.



6 - Make uor Setting in:

Stagger Spinup Support = Disable
Mechanical Presence Switch = Disable
Hotplug capable port = Enable
Cold Presence Detection = Disable



7 - Go for HDD Boot Priority.



8 - Double check uor Primary Boot Device.



9 - Move on CD-ROM Boot Priority.



10 - Select uor CD-ROM Boot Device.



11 - Save and Exit.

12 - Let us know if u got it working

[RayderR6]

Roger all that Room 101 xXIAinXx.
#6 stuff was Room 102 to me, but that is how it is setup when I run it.
Thanks for being thorough with you advice.

UPDATE to POST: see post #138

[tripgood]

xXlAinXx,
Very clear raid guide. Nice work

[RayderR6]

Moderator, please delete this post. Thank you

[xXlAinXx]

Hmm, I cannot test out SSD SATA right now, all I have is a 9in1 reader ( USB ) and spare SSD from the cam
By the way, u should try G19a and and see if it might fix some SSD compatibily issue BenchZowner Repository.
Edit* As Saaya said, u cannot change through IDE RAID AHCI even APIC Mode once u installed uor OS.
Take a look over there too and check uor PM.

[xXlAinXx]

xXlAinXx,
Very clear raid guide. Nice work

[RayderR6]

Hmm, I cannot test out SSD SATA right now, all I have is a 9in1 reader ( USB ) and spare SSD from the cam
By the way, u should try G19a and and see if it might fix some SSD compatibily issue BenchZowner Repository.
Take a look over there too and check uor PM.

Big thanks for the G19a link, Bench must be working hard

Trust me, I've been all over the OCZ forum and I'm very up to date on setup and ssd tweaks, but like I said in the PM I just sent and a previous post, I have taken the SSD out of the raid setup equation many times, we can't get locked into thinking my raid issue is ssd related only. I'll update this thread and if my issue gets resolved, I can trim it all down to the solution.

The reason I started posting on this thread is OverClocker was still feeling my pain. While others have cleared their hurdles, he and I are still stumbling. Hopefully we can both resolve this, but if it comes down to all options exhausted, I'll just stay in IDE or maybe try a hardware card.

Thanks

[RayderR6]

Edit* As Saaya said, u cannot change through IDE RAID AHCI even APIC Mode one u installed uor OS

Fair enough, and at no time did I really expect it to, I only figured that was the reason for the BSOD. The system ignored my vista boot dvd when I wanted to load a fresh install, instead it started loading an installed windows (i.e. the one that was on the SSD under IDE mode), but since I am now under RAID mode, presto BSOD.

When going into raid mode, I always expected and planned on installing a fresh vista, but I would either get Disk Boot Failure, blah, blah or it would just skip/ignore my boot from dvd rom first and start loading the IDE vista off the SSD.

I remember now I actually confirmed the behavior (at least in my mind) that it was ignoring the dvd boot, by formatting the ssd and then after the pool data I would get BootMgr missing since this time there was no vista on a hdd. Got this without the ssd when it checked the first hdd where no os was loaded.

The problems I am having (in RAID mode) are getting the vista dvd to boot or when I have been able to do that, getting the vista installed without a installation ending error. It doesn't matter if it's just 2 velociraptors and a dvd-rom or any bigger combination than that.

Before it's suggested, I have tried different dvd-roms.

The next step is back to 2 velociraptors and dvd-rom only with the dvd-rom in port 1, if the dvd fails to boot or if it does boot and the installation fails, then I can honestly say I've tried everything in the book and can only hope it can be resolved by a BIOS update.

UPDATE to POST: DVD-ROM in SATA port 1 before any HDD's was the cure for my installation issues in RAID mode.

[RayderR6]

Good News, for the most part. When I get to work tonight, I will self moderate previous posts so people eyes don't bleed too much reading useless text , I will also discuss what I feel (as a user level guy) might be a BIOS/SSD problem in RAID mode with pics of BIOS.

I can load vista on a 2 velociraptor RAID with DVD-rom only (likely would work with my backup drive also since it spins), the absolute sole difference between my couple attempts in the past (with no ssd) and this time is the dvd-rom was in sata port 1 and not after the velociraptors. If I had thought of or read that early enough, I could have saved about 15 installation attempts and about 5 image restores . I loaded the vista and did all the driver and utilities I would want off the bloodrage dvd, but didn't go any farther with that installation. All was working well though.

xXlAinXx, for me the Jmicron IDE and eSata has to be IDE or disabled and I will explain that tonight also. UPDATE: Please see post #138

My 2 error free choices right now are 1) stripe vista on 2 Vr's with no SSD (or at least not using the SSD effectively for cost) or 2) vista on SSD and run in IDE (currently what I'm doing now)

A non-error free, but workable (not liked) solution is load vista on SSD in RAID mode and have 2 Vr's striped for data (which is the configuration I want), but here's the kicker, I have to leave the vista dvd in the optical drive and have the optical as first boot device. Wierd, I know, but it is the only acceptable way it will boot without a BootMgr missing error. Yes, by saying "acceptable", there was another way, but Billy boy Gates wouldn't like it

Full details tonight. Thanks.

[BenchZowner]

New "stable" ( P series ) BIOS from Foxconn.
Click here to download the P04 BIOS for the Foxconn BloodRage

[ilsant0]

A non-error free, but workable (not liked) solution is load vista on SSD in RAID mode and have 2 Vr's striped for data (which is the configuration I want), but here's the kicker, I have to leave the vista dvd in the optical drive and have the optical as first boot device. Wierd, I know, but it is the only acceptable way it will boot without a BootMgr missing error. Yes, by saying "acceptable", there was another way, but Billy boy Gates wouldn't like it

Full details tonight. Thanks.

I had solved in this way:
into bios set as RAID
I plugged ssd g.skill on port sata0
I plugged dvd / cdrom on port sata5
i have installed vista (but works also XP) and then i have installed the "Intel RAID Driver" in OS, then i connected to port SATA1 and SATA2 my two Velociraptors ....
So does everything works.

Now instead I have two raid's:
one) sata0 and sata1 (two ssd g.skill)
two) sata2 and sata3 (two velociraptor)
and on sata5 my dvd / cdrom.....only problem that I can not boot directly from the dvd / cdrom!

New "stable" ( P series ) BIOS from Foxconn.
Click here to download the P04 BIOS for the Foxconn BloodRage

omg
are afraid that this bios does not go well.
I have the g13 and it should be fine. you advice me to change it?
What improvements are there?