thanks, sorry i havent been around much in the past weeks, been pretty sick, then chinese holidays...
I've been testing the board for a week now and I must say, I'm impressed :-)
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cool! coming from you thats really great news, your always sceptical and tend to be picky
no offense haha beeing picky is not a bad thing
thanks
How is this board guys, i was thinking of trading off my UD5 for this board, i love the layout.
Yeah the layout is pretty much perfect for me too (dual SLI optimized, off-board soundcard). Most of the online reviews up until this point are steering me away though.
i think youll like it gar
i only remember 3 people who got the BR and switched to another board, two were because they had a DOA/damage board, and one went for classified and went back to BR since he didnt want nf200, it gave him lower scores and he didnt like the stock heatsink/lack of improved chipset cooling.
sholvaco, the only bad review ive seen about BR was the H review, what other reviews are steering you away?
its not a perfect board, but pretty damn good, the only real problems are that at high multis and high vcore theres a notable droop between idle and load, though that should be fixed in a future bios, you cant run tri sli unless you watercool at least one card... thats about it. theres a learning curve since some things need to be adjusted manually and dont get changed automatically, like increasing uncore multipliers when selecting a higher memory multiplier, or to improve the droop you have to disable CxE and the droop compensation setting.
the good points are:
very powerful cpu pwm
overall very beefy pwms for ioh, vtt and mem
very organized bios structure (tho you need to get used to it)
4 pciE slots
can run 2 dualsot vgas plus pci, plus pciE x1
very good onboard sound
very good cooling array with very good bundled waterblock
beautiful design/layout
good price
Saaya it wasn't that other reviews were outright bad, it's just that in multiboard comparisons it often comes up a bit short in some key benchmarks when compared to other boards. The more affordable Asus P6T Deluxe beats it fair and square and even shames it's flashier sibling the R2E more often than not. The classic ASUS QC issues are making me wary of that one too but to be honest they seem to ship more high-end boards than other manufacturers, so statistics wise...
Anyway I was more than willing to look past most of the above because of the bonus features, the layout and especialy the looks (I was't even considering going Core i7 until your masterpiece hit ) but that HardOCP review drew the final straw with me, so I'm now looking at either DFI UT or non NF200 Classified. No offense man.
Last edited by sholvaco; 04-26-2009 at 03:36 AM.
non taken, the weird thing about the reviews is that we never managed to reproduce those weird benchmark results, we have all x58 boards here for reference...
so it must have been some configuration problem, i guess...
anyhow, good luck with the dfi or classified, id probably go for the dfi cause of their insane bios options and because i dont like the classies heatsink... plus its still expensive...
the dfi has some probs with the cpu pwm tho i heard, as long as you dont enable vdroop compensation it should be ok though.
If you want to know what this board is capable of check out my CPUID for my DO stepping in my sig. I will admit that if the Classified was the same price or if money was not an issue I would probably do it for the ability to hit higher than 222BCLK. Other than the Classified I do not know of any boards that can do it without some extreme cooling like LN2.
CPUID http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=484051
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=484051
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=554982
New DO Stepping http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=555012
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dfi boards can hit high bclocks, actually dfi was the first, everybody else followed them
but im not convinced high bclocks really depend that much on the board, it has a lot to do with having the right cpu as well...
My BR would be here tomorrow. I also have a classified(which I am waiting for an RMA) and a D0 920(45B027), should be interesting. BTW, Saaya what BIOS version do you recommend for the DO. Is there any version with special optimizations for the DO(like the one for DFI that Gary was talking about in his DO review @AT)?
Quoting from that article:
"This particular BIOS is very D0 stepping friendly along with incorporating a few changeable settings like Round Trip Latency (RTL) that allows us to clock our Corsair Dominator GT memory kit a little higher than the other X58 motherboards".
I have the GTs too(although it's the lower priced CL8 kit) and the HyperX CL8 kit.I hope to hit 4.4 on air stable. Let's see.
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Lappy:
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P06/07 (I'm not sure, but P07 is for D0 I think..) and you can also try beta BIOS if you like Benchzone - BIOS Download. G22 seems like quite good for OCing anything.. going to try it soon myself.
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Mobo:EVGA Classified/Foxconn BR
CPU:W3540/i7 920(D0)
RAM: Dominator GT 2000 cl7/Patriot DDR3-2000 cl8
GPU:Sapphire 4870x2/XFX 4890/ GTX 260 tri-sli
Lappy:
Late 2008 "Unibody" MBP 2.4 GHZ(with OCZ Vertex 250GB)
im not sure about d0 clocking,, i just heard that G19a didnt work well with somebodies d0, so apparently the later ones are better for d0 chips...
keep in mind that d0 chips are more sensitive when ocing, they have a thinner like of volts they accept and like, c0 chips are very forgiving, you can blow much higher volts at them than they need and they just run hotter, d0 chips tend to become unstable when they get too high volts. finding the sweet spot on d0s is trickier, but overall they clock better with less volts and lower temps, so they are def worth the little extra hassle.
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Mobo:EVGA Classified/Foxconn BR
CPU:W3540/i7 920(D0)
RAM: Dominator GT 2000 cl7/Patriot DDR3-2000 cl8
GPU:Sapphire 4870x2/XFX 4890/ GTX 260 tri-sli
Lappy:
Late 2008 "Unibody" MBP 2.4 GHZ(with OCZ Vertex 250GB)
And do you have Speedstep on? I think all those Intel "improvements" must be on in order to get 21 or 22 multi.. (and current override too...).
i7 930 D0 - 4,2 GHz + Megashadow
3x4GB Crucial 1600MHz CL8
Foxconn Bloodrage rev. 1.1 - P09
MSI HAWK N760
Crucial M500 240GB SSD
SeaGate ES.2 1TB + 1TB External SeaGate
Corsair HX 850W (its GOLD man!)
ASUS STX + Sennheiser HD 555 (tape mod)
Old-new camera so some new pics will be there.. My Flickr My 500px.com My Tumblr
i7 Rigs
Mobo:EVGA Classified/Foxconn BR
CPU:W3540/i7 920(D0)
RAM: Dominator GT 2000 cl7/Patriot DDR3-2000 cl8
GPU:Sapphire 4870x2/XFX 4890/ GTX 260 tri-sli
Lappy:
Late 2008 "Unibody" MBP 2.4 GHZ(with OCZ Vertex 250GB)
I am on P 06 with Xeon 3520 and Apogee GT
Up to 215 Blck is quit easy with + 160 / +220 mV Vtt .
24/7 i am on 195 Blck with Vtt +160mV , CPU stock , Ram 1,65 7 7 7 18 @781MHz
Eist, PPM, Vdrop , HT , Turbo enabled.
CPU idle is 0,94V Load 1,28V
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Last edited by Sch0cK; 05-09-2009 at 11:09 AM.
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Mobo:EVGA Classified/Foxconn BR
CPU:W3540/i7 920(D0)
RAM: Dominator GT 2000 cl7/Patriot DDR3-2000 cl8
GPU:Sapphire 4870x2/XFX 4890/ GTX 260 tri-sli
Lappy:
Late 2008 "Unibody" MBP 2.4 GHZ(with OCZ Vertex 250GB)
ok, here is my other question..does 2 sticks, versus 3 sticks, make it easier to overclock?
Last edited by Ace-a-Rue; 05-10-2009 at 09:12 AM. Reason: grammar
BIOSTAR TPOWER I45 UNOFFICIAL THREAD
BIOSTAR TPOWER BOLT MOD FOR HEATPIPE AND HEATSINK
BIOSTAR TPOWER I45 BIOS FLASHING PROCEDURE
ABIT IP35 PRO HEATPIPE MOD
ABIT IP35 PRO BIOS FLASHING PROCEDURE
IP35 Pro: 9650@4000Mhz, par overclocker; Freezone Elite; 4Gb GSkill DDR-800@DDR-1068 (2 x 2gb); XFX 8800 GTS; Areca 8X PCIe in Raid 0 working at 4x speed; 4-250 Gb (single platter) 7200.10 drives; Giga 3DAurora case with side window.
Can anyone clarify regarding TDP limit in P07 bios ?
I changed to settings in CPU features (something with "current ovveride") and the Vcore was lowered (set it to 1.35 and got 1.28) and the Multy dropped from 21 to 20, settings were 200X21.
moreover, why there is no option to change the PCI-E speed ?
Aside from that it is a nice board, I hope some issues with it will be improved.
I saw one thing I think nobody here mentioned.
When you set the CPU speed above 4200Mhz, they add a little funny caption, which get crazier the higher the CPU goes.
It goes from, Nice cpu speed, Great speed, Bench god, to GODLIKE !!! LOL, it was so funny !
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You forgot Keep Pushing
Look in The Fox-Thread Saya explained somewhere the Override values, seem you lowered the TDP.
Anyone heard anything about the FlamingBlade GTI thats like $179.99 on newegg? It seems lower end, but I'm tempted to go i7 because that board is so cheap. and looks like the BR.
Last edited by nascasho; 05-13-2009 at 10:12 AM.
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