Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 76

Thread: Started work on the railgun I'm making

  1. #1
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431

    Started work on the railgun I'm making

    So far we've got some 3D renders of the accelerating sections. Here be they:

    This one is a view from the end, looking at the bore. You can see the projectile in the middle:


    The next one is an oblique view of one end. You can see the bullet ready to enter the gun. The top and bottom part is 3/4" thick plexiglass, the brownish coloured part is the rails, which are 5/8" thick. The bullet itself is .50 Cal. The bolts along the side are what will hold it all together. They are Grade 5, 3/8" diameter bolts. They are spaced every two inches.


    The last one is the entire "rail" portion of the gun. The whole thing is 32" long, 2 1/4" thick, and 3" wide.


    For power, I am getting 110 2400 uF, 400V, 450Vmax electrolytic capacitors. Total energy of the power supply when fully charged should be ~20kJ.

    Still working out the details, but suffice to say that if I fire a 10g bullet, and the railgun is only 5% efficient, it will go at ~Mach 1.5 I should be able to get more efficiency than that (or so I hope).

    There will also be a compressed air injection system (hopefully injection speeds will be upwards of 100 m/s).
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  2. #2
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Ohio, U.S.A.
    Posts
    1,697
    Hmmm that's a little over my head... the only thing that comes to my mind when I hear "rail gun" is quake3

    Just don't shoot me with it! :thumbsup:

  3. #3
    I am lame
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Posts
    1,952
    That is badass... Put me on the order list!

  4. #4
    X. I. P.
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Sioux Falls, SD U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,127
    Now all you need is to find some depleted uranium to cast into the projectile(s)

    How did you calculate the length? From what little I know of the physics the barrel has to be considerably long to allow for projectile accelleration. Else the armed forces would already be using these (or are they?).
    The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."

  5. #5
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    Lol, actually, I think the barrel is longer than it needs to be, by a fair bit. If you look at www.powerlabs.org/railgun.htm , his railgun is only accelerating for about an inch of his barrel length. Ours will probably use lower current for a longer period.
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  6. #6
    Xtremely Large Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Britland
    Posts
    1,944
    Holy crap, under no circumstances did I think you would actually be building a railgun after reading that title, I was expecting some kind of joke.

    Well, anyway, when it's done, let me know, I know a few people, um, sorry, targets, you could test it out on.

    Note to self, never, ever, under any circumstances piss off KnightElite...
    Last edited by st0nedpenguin; 10-20-2003 at 04:27 AM.
    I've heard it all, I've seen it all, I've done it all. I just don't remember any of it.

    DFI LanParty UT NF3 | A-64 3200+ | 1Gb OCZ EL DDR PC-3500 Limited Edition
    Radeon X800XT | Audigy 2 | 2x WD 74Gb Raptors | 60Gb IBM | 20Gb Maxtor
    OCZ PowerStream 520w | Mach II GT Cooled

  7. #7
    X. I. P.
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Sioux Falls, SD U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,127
    OK, that read was awesome. I was laboring under the assumption that this design somehow still used "normal" electromagnetic induction.

    I particularly liked the statement that the projectile melted and fused to the rails on one of the first tries. Massive amounts of power lol.

    An xtreme project if ever there were one. Good luck KnightElite
    The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."

  8. #8
    Xtremely slow runner
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    3,289
    He's been talking a lot about it on IRC, i hope the project will go well

    ps stop playing quake3, it's starting to mess up with your brain
    The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

    Av by Frisch This is not a Lime tree

  9. #9
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    Lol... the funny thing is I've only ever played quake3 about 3 or 4 times in my life, at LAN parties.
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  10. #10
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Tempe, AZ
    Posts
    1,263
    wtf is a railgun??
    NF7 | Mobile 2400+ | 256MB Twinmos PC3200 BH5 | 9800 PRO | 23384 6989

    MY HEATWARE

  11. #11
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    A railgun is an electromagnetic device that propels the projectile forward by means of the Lorentz force.

    Basically, it's a linear motor. It functions exactly like a normal DC motor.... except that it goes straight instead of spinning around.
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  12. #12
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Belgium\Ieper
    Posts
    494
    cool stuff over there, but please watch out with those arms. I hope you can fire it remotely?

  13. #13
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  14. #14
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Denver
    Posts
    789
    Hope you got someone to donate those caps. They get expensive! You figured out what to do about vaporization of the projectile and rail ends?
    DeXter::2xXeon2.4@3200, GF6800, PC-DL, 1gb Centon, IWT+panaflo air, Win7
    Quad::Q6600(g0)@3400(1.30V), GTX275, 965P-DS3, 4gb HyperX, Asus SilentSquare (air), Win7_64U
    NuQuad::Q9400@3300(1.24V), 8800GT, G31M-ES2L, 2gb Patriot, stock air (bigger Q6600 one), WinXP64
    Crunch::E4300@2400, onboard, GF7100PVT-M3, 2gb Patriot CL5, stock air, Vista64U

  15. #15
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    181
    If I understand correctly, your compressed air injection system will be used to create forward motion to the slug before it comes in contact with the rails and currents. This to decrease friction (kinetic friction is less than static friction). How will you get the timing right? optical gate?

    Also, what material are you planning to use for the projectile?

    very interesting project KnightElite, keep us updated
    Last edited by Peckers; 10-28-2003 at 03:25 PM.

  16. #16
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    Well, we're not sure about material for the projectile yet. Right now I'm making a huge spreadsheet to calculate all that, and spit out lots of useful graphs.

    As to timing, we may not bother, since the slug completes the circuit, so it triggers itself.
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  17. #17
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Memphis, Tennessee 'yall
    Posts
    330
    who cares about the technical stuff? what kind of stuff are we talking about being blowed up here? what kind of damage?

    I put the laughter in Slaughter.
    Heat

  18. #18
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    943
    Originally posted by st0nedpenguin
    Holy crap, under no circumstances did I think you would actually be building a railgun after reading that title, I was expecting some kind of joke.

    Well, anyway, when it's done, let me know, I know a few people, um, sorry, targets, you could test it out on.

    same here!

  19. #19
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    I've started working on a spreadsheet to calculate all the relevant parameters. Here's what I have so far, if anyone is interested (~2.5MB):
    http://www.ocfaq.com/railgun/railgun%20discharge.xls

    The force formula must be off somewhere, because the results it is generating are much too low.
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

  20. #20
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    67
    Can you shoot through walls with it?

  21. #21
    X. I. P.
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Sioux Falls, SD U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,127
    With the right load, a railgun can shoot through tanks, banks, even Fort Knox.

    Remember, the projectile can be ejected from the railgun travelling at speeds in excess of Mach 1
    The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."

  22. #22
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    181
    Originally posted by KnightElite
    As to timing, we may not bother, since the slug completes the circuit, so it triggers itself.
    ah, ok I guess that should work.


    sjohnson, as to military applications I found this read interesting.
    edit: under Research Projects\Railgun Pulsed Power Program

  23. #23
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    ut2k4 demo ?
    Posts
    43
    wow... very wicked, keep us updated

  24. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    67
    How much does one of these cost? (all the random parts) What are you actually gonna use it for? Shoot it into the ground? Or are the projectiles so small (1gram in that site) that itll just bounce off a brick wall?
    Last edited by Dr. 1337; 10-29-2003 at 04:34 PM.

  25. #25
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Posts
    1,431
    I'm currently planning on 10g for the projectile, though we will be able to experiment with any projectile weight, as long as it fits between the rails.

    All the random parts, so to speak, will probably cost $300 or $400 CAD, plus the value of the capacitor bank (~$7K USD). We will also have machining costs, but they should be relatively low, given that the engineering department has a machine shop, and will do work for minimal charge (like $2, as compared to $60 for a normal shop).

    Today I went and tested every one of the capacitors and determined their exact capacitance. Average is ~2150uF, with the highest at 2290uF and lowest 1950uF. So, about 12% under rated capacitance, like the CEO of CDE told me.
    AXP1700+ JIUHB 0302 @ 2400MHz - TEC-Watercooled in The Skyscraper
    ABIT NF7-S , Sapphire Radeon 9500 Pro, 1.5GB XMS3200C2

    XS IRC channel: irc.quakenet.net #xtremesystems
    www.ocfaq.com

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •