AMD Dragon Platform exhibition

[accord99]

proof?

Based on Shanghai power consumption, typical problems of early new CPUs to have problems with temperature sensors, etc. But in the end, the idle temperature doesn't matter very much as compared to the load temperature and both are subject to error and therefore less important that actual power consumption.

[initialised]

9950 cooler

That's not bad at all, I've never seen a 3.8GHz i7 or C2Q that cool at idle, even with XSPC Delta V3 waterblocks they tend to run in the high 30s, water just keeps the delta-T down.

What are your load temps?
How long is it Prime Stable?
What was the ambient temp?

[initialised]

Based on Shanghai power consumption, typical problems of early new CPUs to have problems with temperature sensors, etc. But in the end, the idle temperature doesn't matter very much as compared to the load temperature.

At 4GHz+ i7 can have delta-T of 45-50C which usually kills the OC by overshooting the 95C limit and either crashing or throttling. 28C is promising assuming that delta-T + idle-T < Tmax

[gallag]

That's not bad at all, I've never seen a 3.8GHz i7 or C2Q that cool at idle, even with XSPC Delta V3 waterblocks they tend to run in the high 30s, water just keeps the delta-T down.

There is a interesting post in the i7 ocing thread in the Intel section, 4.515GHZ @1.37v. Nice idle temps on air.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=706

Anything is possible.

[dread77]

That's not bad at all, I've never seen a 3.8GHz i7 or C2Q that cool at idle, even with XSPC Delta V3 waterblocks they tend to run in the high 30s, water just keeps the delta-T down.

What are your load temps? 42C
How long is it Prime Stable? Not tested with Prime95, 100% through all benchmarks
What was the ambient temp? 20C

No broken thermal sensors (other samples around are giving same results), no fake screenshots... Most definitely do not want to lose my reliability among XS members, I only post what I saw and can prove.

[gallag]

42c with a stock 9950 cooler is fantastic.

[JAWS]

Gotta give AMD some credit, not a peep of info before Barcelona was released. now you can't keep them quite.

I hope to not be DEVASTATED this time.

I'll be watching the vid for sure!

[donitsi]

I can't believe they are even paid to do the vid... (jealous)
Quit teasing people! Launch these processors already

[Sparky]

8 AM CST, that is 9 AM EST I think if I don't have my timezones confused again. Darn, I'll be at work then.

[initialised]

There is a interesting post in the i7 ocing thread in the Intel section, 4.515GHZ @1.37v. Nice idle temps on air.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=706

Anything is possible.

Still not 28C idle though, very nice delta-T but a single core test so not representative

[T_Flight]

At 4GHz+ i7 can have delta-T of 45-50C which usually kills the OC by overshooting the 95C limit and either crashing or throttling. 28C is promising assuming that delta-T + idle-T < Tmax

There are something like 20 CPU's here at XS that have ran the Chess benchmark at between 4-4.35GHz, none of them were crashing or throttling. That benchmark fully loads all cores 100% and does 8 threads. I have one at 3.8GHz and have ran that bench and am over 30 degrees from the TjMax with a box stock cooler, when the cores are fully loaded for 10 minutes HT enabled 8 threads. It reaches max temp and planes off at around 2 minutes of calcultions. Once it reaches that temp it stays there. Not even near the TM limit.

[Tiridum]

There are something like 20 CPU's here at XS that have ran the Chess benchmark at between 4-4.35GHz, none of them were crashing or throttling. That benchmark fully loads all cores 100% and does 8 threads. I have one at 3.8GHz and have ran that bench and am over 30 degrees from the TjMax with a box stock cooler, when the cores are fully loaded for 10 minutes HT enabled 8 threads. It reaches max temp and planes off at around 2 minutes of calcultions. Once it reaches that temp it stays there. Not even near the TM limit.

you can disable throtling...

[Movieman]

I'll be at the Boston little get together this Friday to see for myself.
yup, already got my invitation..

[T_Flight]

Yes, I know, but there is no reason to. I've never gotten anywhere near the TjMax. 4 will get closer to it, but I haven't heard anyone that has said their system was crashing and throttling.

[Chad Boga]

Im starting to suspect this is the Italian Chad

[Brother Esau]

I'll be at the Boston little get together this Friday to see for myself.
yup, already got my invitation..

Hey.......N00B Admin

[Rammsteiner]

Based on Shanghai power consumption, typical problems of early new CPUs to have problems with temperature sensors, etc. But in the end, the idle temperature doesn't matter very much as compared to the load temperature and both are subject to error and therefore less important that actual power consumption.

First ES/steppings which dont hit retail are early CPU's as well

Since ambient should be around 20, I think 28 on idle does say a lot. Especially if you consider that both 9850BE and 6400+ idle with a TRUE where like ~30 on stock with ~20 ambient.

[dinos22]

thats nice

[accord99]

First ES/steppings which dont hit retail are early CPU's as well

Or Brisbane whose DTS were broken on release and has apparently yet to be fixed, or the stuck early Intel 45nm DTS, or their wildly changing Tjmax values.

Since ambient should be around 20, I think 28 on idle does say a lot. Especially if you consider that both 9850BE and 6400+ idle with a TRUE where like ~30 on stock with ~20 ambient.

It means very little without knowing the accuracy of temperature sensor; if there was a power consumption figure then that could corroborate or reject the idle value.

[informal]

Or Brisbane whose DTS were broken on release and has apparently yet to be fixed, or the stuck early Intel 45nm DTS, or their wildly changing Tjmax values.


It means very little without knowing the accuracy of temperature sensor; if there was a power consumption figure then that could corroborate or reject the idle value.

You will have all the numbers very soon.Patience.

[Morais]

Live streaming starting in 15 minutes @ http://www.mogulus.com/amdunprocessed

[Face]

Live streaming starting in 15 minutes @ http://www.mogulus.com/amdunprocessed

Thanks, just started. Showing 6.3Ghz on CPU-Z.

Edit: SF3D, Sampsa, Macci & Hardmann seating all together now speaking.

P.S. Whoever put that chat up there.. bad idea.

[informal]

It's streaming now,although choppy a bit.They showed a vid of 6.2Ghz OC.
Do i see Sampsa there ? He spoke just 10 secs ago.

[v_rr]

3d Stability @ 6.0Ghz confirmed

[Tiridum]

too much ing lag
the guy on the left is quite y also

and that chat is annoying