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    Quite common on more recent AM2 chips (the higher corners)

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    my 9950 looks the same.. and it is not raised...
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    my 9950 looks the same.. and it is not raised...
    normal corners on 9850 as well. Its probly just from poor croping in photoshop..........(only joking Nedjo)
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    http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/amd/P..._X4-info-1.htm
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    Introduction to Phenom II X4 and Expected launch date of AMD Phenom II Processors

    We received news that the expected launch date of the AMD Phenom II processors would be Jan 8 , 2009. Although it is a launch, retail products won't be available till Feb 4, 2009. Pre-orders should take place in from Jan 8 onwards.

    The first two models that will appear would be model 920 and model 940. Both are 45nm.

    Model 920 is rated 2.8GHz (14x200) and is a Quad Core processor. It has a HT link of 1.8GHz. It will have 256KB L1, 2M L2 and 6M L3 cache.

    Model 940 is also quad core and is rated at 3GHz (15x200). it also has a HT LInk of 1.8GHz, 256KB L1, 2M L2 and 6M L3 cache.
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    The 3GHz processor is able to churn out impressive performance, scoring P8492 in the 3DMark Vantage test. A similar score can be obtained with a overclocked Core 2 Quad Q6600 at 3.6GHz with ATi Radeon HD 4870
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    I presume the i940 would be using a 4870 too, if all things were as equal as possible then that aint too bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicypixel View Post
    I presume thr q6600 would be using a 4870 too, if all things were as equal as possible then that aint too bad...
    It's misleading since the 3.6GHz Q6600 also had a CPU score of 11540. Since the score is dominated by the video card, they could have find similar scores from Q6600s overclocked to 3GHz or lower.
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    I thought the ht would be 2.2ghz like shanghai?
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    Why does Windows report 16 gigs of ram?? Could they really be using 16 gigs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by villa1n View Post
    I thought the ht would be 2.2ghz like shanghai?
    Won't matter anyway, 1.8 GHz is plenty for the NB-CPU coms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    Won't matter anyway, 1.8 GHz is plenty for the NB-CPU coms.
    I can agree, but I don't see what advantage it would have to down clock it vs their shanghai counterpart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by villa1n View Post
    I can agree, but I don't see what advantage it would have to down clock it vs their shanghai counterpart?
    Power. Lowering the HT clock will help a bit on staying within the thermal envelop they want to bin these chips into....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    Why does Windows report 16 gigs of ram?? Could they really be using 16 gigs?
    I thought single 4GB sticks were only possible with Registered DDR2. :/



    EDIT: Stand corrected. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231183
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    so are they launching BD soon or a comic book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    I thought single 4GB sticks were only possible with Registered DDR2. :/



    EDIT: Stand corrected. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231183

    Same here, I was unware of 4 gig sticks ... never really looked for any either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    Power. Lowering the HT clock will help a bit on staying within the thermal envelop they want to bin these chips into....
    the 2.7's are what 95W... i guess thats why the tdp will drop am3 then, new nb, ddr3 lower volts etc...
    Makes sense, but given that they are essentially shanghai's should be easy to clock it right back up there no?
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    Hmm. If previous SuperPi scores were on 1.8Ghz, upping this is going to look fun.


    I reckon it's because of lower L3 not getting in the way of higher clocks, or something similar.
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    On that screen NB clock is only 1.8GHz. Surely AMD won't go lower than previous BE chips on a brand new core.
    Also worth noting is memory setting for that run. DDR2 800 with CL6-6-6!
    Looks like this run is crippled in more than one way to not upset too many people for now.
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    There is an english version in OKTABIT's forum regarding the Phenom II upcoming review. Check it out, several HARD tests will be uploaded soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
    On that screen NB clock is only 1.8GHz. Surely AMD won't go lower than previous BE chips on a brand new core.
    Also worth noting is memory setting for that run. DDR2 800 with CL6-6-6!
    Looks like this run is crippled in more than one way to not upset too many people for now.
    Dont think crippled on purpose. If they are running 4 x 4GB sticks then that would explain the lax timings
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    Quote Originally Posted by accord99 View Post
    It's misleading since the 3.6GHz Q6600 also had a CPU score of 11540. Since the score is dominated by the video card, they could have find similar scores from Q6600s overclocked to 3GHz or lower.
    Aye.. there are better scores too.. like this http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19 Q6600 @ 3GHz but GPU influenced the score.

    EDIT: Q9450 @ stock with similar (a bit higher) GPU score http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19
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    As far as I see the CPU score is 1306 for test 1.




    Doesnt really look good for Phenom II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
    On that screen NB clock is only 1.8GHz. Surely AMD won't go lower than previous BE chips on a brand new core.
    Also worth noting is memory setting for that run. DDR2 800 with CL6-6-6!
    Looks like this run is crippled in more than one way to not upset too many people for now.
    Seems like the bios does not recognize the CPU in a proper way. I remember 3 GHz Phenom II should have 2.2 Ghz for NB Speeds.Anyway, DDR2 800 and CL6 subtimings sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boschwanza View Post
    Seems like the bios does not recognize the CPU in a proper way. I remember 3 GHz Phenom II should have 2.2 Ghz for NB Speeds.Anyway, DDR2 800 and CL6 subtimings sucks
    If you look at the CPUZ memory SPD table, the RAM stick he used has CL6 timings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dread77 View Post
    There is an english version in OKTABIT's forum regarding the Phenom II upcoming review. Check it out, several HARD tests will be uploaded soon...
    soon when ? when nda is over ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    Why does Windows report 16 gigs of ram?? Could they really be using 16 gigs?
    yup there are already 4gb modules for ddr2, but to bad it seems they used the gskill sticks, they come with CL6. The OCZ come with CL5 and are also 4x4.

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    We received news that the expected launch date of the AMD Phenom II processors would be Jan 8 , 2009. Although it is a launch, retail products won't be available till Feb 4, 2009. Pre-orders should take place in from Jan 8 onwards.
    Thanks Face,
    Sounds like another delay here.

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