Nehalem 101 part1 - 1366 and X58

[Raptor8888]

yes, but only up to 21 with 4 cores and 8 threads, and 22 with 1 core and 2 threads...

@Saaya: GREAT THREAD. The best Nehalem writeup that I have seen on the web..

What steps are necessary to "fool" the 920 into X21 consistently with heavily threaded workloads?

[saaya]

thanks

to get 21x under any condition on BloodRage just set CPU Turbo to "Always On" in BIOS
I dont know if other boards have a similar feature... afaik they dont... maybe they will copy us again after some time and add that option :P

[Crankyhobo]

Thanks for the info.

Regarding gaming, a little offtrack but i wanted to comment since they brought it up.
From my experience their performance are mostly held back by:

1) GPU
2) HDD/DVD
3) CPU

And the conventional wisdom is that its better to get the next generation single card than SLI an older card. SLI in general only provides valuable gains at high resolution and very high anti-aliasing/filtering type settings. Install/Crack your games to the HDD so that you dont have to use the DVD, use an SSD or 10k+ RPM drive for the games you play most often. Watercool and overclock your graphics card(s).

[Amuro]

965XE goes up to around 3330mhz with turbo mode on 4 cores, and 3460mhz for single core.

[Touge180SX]

965XE goes up to around 3330mhz with turbo mode on 4 cores, and 3460mhz for single core.

What do you mean? That is the max you got with OC or running everything stock?

[Amuro]

What do you mean? That is the max you got with OC or running everything stock?

Stock. The OP made a mistake in post #1. 25 x 133mhz <> 3450 and 26x133mhz < > 3600

[Touge180SX]

Oh, got it! Sorry about that.

[fubarswe]

.., keep returning to this thread.., very good stuff Saaya.. :-)

[Kanasatake]

For the second time..thanks Saaya for posting this and thank you to Linus for sharing your great video.... its nice to actually see the Bios in action rather than paragraph after paragraph..it can get confusing...


Merci, gneowan

Hermes

[saaya]

Thanks for the info.

Regarding gaming, a little offtrack but i wanted to comment since they brought it up.
From my experience their performance are mostly held back by:

1) GPU
2) HDD/DVD
3) CPU

And the conventional wisdom is that its better to get the next generation single card than SLI an older card. SLI in general only provides valuable gains at high resolution and very high anti-aliasing/filtering type settings. Install/Crack your games to the HDD so that you dont have to use the DVD, use an SSD or 10k+ RPM drive for the games you play most often. Watercool and overclock your graphics card(s).

yeah, and get the last gen mainstream cpu or current gen entry level cpu and clock it up and get the latest high end card. thats the best for gaming, at least so far its been like that... if you do more than gaming on your pc, are a heavy multi tasker or want all apps to run and pop up quickly, then a fast hdd/ssd is good for you
top end cpus are only good for benching and professonal media tools, for gaming its really not needed.

965XE goes up to around 3330mhz with turbo mode on 4 cores, and 3460mhz for single core.

oh yeah, my bad...
originally the max multi for single core was actually 27x on 965... at least on some ES cpus, but they apparently changed that for the retail chips.

.., keep returning to this thread.., very good stuff Saaya.. :-)

thanks, its a bit outdated by now tho

For the second time..thanks Saaya for posting this and thank you to Linus for sharing your great video.... its nice to actually see the Bios in action rather than paragraph after paragraph..it can get confusing...
Merci, gneowan

Hermes

it was only meant to introduce people to i7 before it was launched, i wanted to spill some beans so there wont be any bad rumors or misunderstandings about i7 spreading. some people still think qpi is the new name for fsb and think vtt is qpi voltage, but overall i think almost everybody understood i7 by now

this thread has inspired several i7 guides by now, which are all very nice and easier to read and understand and more complete, so it has served its purpose

anandtech wrote a guide in a similar style, xbitlabs has a nice guide and several other sites wrote good guides too

[dave510]

Thanks for posting this! I'm still nervous to touch OC settings. Still much more reading to do first!

[saaya]

theres not much that can go wrong really, just play around with the settings
i highly recommend the tool cpu tweaker btw, great to keep track of where the different clocks are at under windows

[dave510]

I just don't want to kill my i7 with too much voltage, etc. I'm only going to be looking for 24/7 stable. Probably won't be benching much.

[HDCHOPPER]

Saaya is the BloodRage considered a 2 ounce board ? (copper layer)

[Shibumi77]

Excellent link for first timers like me!! That video explained ALOT!!

[saaya]

2 ounce copper? no, its 2 pounds of friggin platinum!

its great somebody tries something new and different and if they really use 2ounce on the power and ground layers inside the pcb and not on top, then they must even have tweaked their manufacturing process cause most pcb vendors cant do that. i havent heard of or seen any notable improvements though... all i saw was a questionable review at thg that concluded there was no difference and a more than questional review from asrock which showed it can make things worse in some situation...

i wish somebody would make a propper analysis and compare a 1ounce and 2ounce board of the same design like thg did.
until that happens and theres really an advantage im categorizing this as a marketing stunt and ignore it