Gigabyte UD3 Thread

[road-runner]

Here are a couple shots of the new board...

[jcool]

What are you using to insulate, jcool? I heard that the artist erasers--the pliable rubber ones--are the best choice and don't leave residue.

No rubber here
1 layer of armaflex tape on front & back of the mobo around the socket, 3 layers of neoprene gaskets that are made to fit the socket on top. Evap head presses down on those 4 layers --> completely airtight. I run 24/7 without any vaseline, rubber, dielectric grease and whatever nasty stuff most people use. No condensation here, plus I can swap CPUs in like 2 minutes without having to clean up more than the thermal grease

My SS unit is tuned for high load, not low temps tho... so I usually run "only" -30C loaded and it's never below -39C...

The P5Q is not a great overclocker, but it probably consumes less electricity than my other crunchers.

What do you mean exactly, when you say your P5Q DLX is a bad clocker?
I used one recently for a customer's build and was very impressed. No trouble running an E8500 at FSB 500, along with 8GB of ram @ 1100Mhz without using any high voltages (1,18V VTT, 1,4V MCH, 2V Vdimm).
Almost no Vdroop which is great, only thing that annoyed me is the lack of voltage displays in bios

[Martijn]

Here are a couple shots of the new board...

What GPU's are that? I don't think I've seen those before?

[sierra_bound]

What do you mean exactly, when you say your P5Q DLX is a bad clocker?
I used one recently for a customer's build and was very impressed. No trouble running an E8500 at FSB 500, along with 8GB of ram @ 1100Mhz without using any high voltages (1,18V VTT, 1,4V MCH, 2V Vdimm).
Almost no Vdroop which is great, only thing that annoyed me is the lack of voltage displays in bios

That's a dual-core chip. I'm running a quad core. I'm also speaking in relative terms. There are other boards that can get much higher FSB with either a dual or quad core. But I like my P5Q Dlx because it's been problem-free and I don't need to run high VCore. It's also my main PC. The quad core is unlocked, so I don't need to run high FSB to get decent speed.

[Bobsama]

RR: nice systems. Quad-fire HD3870s? And correct me if I'm wrong, but the UD3P is running with a pair of HD4850 Toxics, right?

[Martijn]

That's a dual-core chip. I'm running a quad core. I'm also speaking in relative terms. There are other boards that can get much higher FSB with either a dual or quad core. But I like my P5Q Dlx because it's been problem-free and I don't need to run high VCore. It's also my main PC. The quad core is unlocked, so I don't need to run high FSB to get decent speed.

With my Striker Extreme being such an example. You can get singles and duals clocking like crazy with massive FSBs on this board, yet quad cores suck as bad as any $100 board. There are more examples.

[road-runner]

RR: nice systems. Quad-fire HD3870s? And correct me if I'm wrong, but the UD3P is running with a pair of HD4850 Toxics, right?

Quad 3870x2s on the DS4P, on the UD3P those are a pair of 8800gt for folding, I have quadfire 4870x2 I put in for the forum wars though...

[Bobsama]

What CPUs in each?

[jcool]

With my Striker Extreme being such an example. You can get singles and duals clocking like crazy with massive FSBs on this board, yet quad cores suck as bad as any $100 board. There are more examples.

It's not so much about the FSB 500 (any P965 can run a Dualcore at FSB500) I was impressed... more because of the 8GB mem clock.
Most boards can't even touch 1000Mhz with 8GB DDR2, and this one just did 1100 with no hassle, low volts and FSB 500 on top.

Sierra, what is your approx. max FSB with a quad on the P5Q? If you know it, also the max FSB of the CPU on any other board? Talking primestable here. Thanks.

[road-runner]

What CPUs in each?

The EP45 DS4P has the Q9650, the new UD3P has a QX9650 in it, both are running 4Ghz 24/7 crunching...

[sierra_bound]

Sierra, what is your approx. max FSB with a quad on the P5Q? If you know it, also the max FSB of the CPU on any other board? Talking primestable here. Thanks.

When I was testing, I think I got up to around 450FSB. I have not run Prime in about two years. All I care about is if it's WCG-stable. For daily use, I run 330X10. FSB is not that important in WCG.

I usually spend about a week testing a new cruncher. I can generally tell if it's going to be stable enough for WCG without the need to run Prime. I've never had any problems with blue screens or reboots. I have one cruncher that's been going almost non-stop for two years. That's the P5B Dlx which runs at 400X8. I have to run 400FSB because 8 is the highest multiplier on the chip.

[Bobsama]

The EP45 DS4P has the Q9650, the new UD3P has a QX9650 in it, both are running 4Ghz 24/7 crunching...

I was tempted to edit in "Q9650s or?" to my post. Nice chips--great speeds. And yeah--try to push it more till you get WCG-unstable

[road-runner]

I was tempted to edit in "Q9650s or?" to my post. Nice chips--great speeds. And yeah--try to push it more till you get WCG-unstable

No if I go by WCG standards there unstable in Folding at home, all of mine are OCCT, prime95, FAH stable which has no problems WCG. I have tried that before where it will run WCG without errors and go to folding and its a fail...

[Bobsama]

Ok. Well still sounds pretty good. I like your setups--a bit messy (if I do say so myself ) but it has a lot of power.

[jcool]

When I was testing, I think I got up to around 450FSB. I have not run Prime in about two years. All I care about is if it's WCG-stable. For daily use, I run 330X10. FSB is not that important in WCG.

I usually spend about a week testing a new cruncher. I can generally tell if it's going to be stable enough for WCG without the need to run Prime. I've never had any problems with blue screens or reboots. I have one cruncher that's been going almost non-stop for two years. That's the P5B Dlx which runs at 400X8. I have to run 400FSB because 8 is the highest multiplier on the chip.

Ok thanks, 450 is enough for my use (trying to decide which mobo will replace the IP35 Pro in my "basic" systems lineup, eyeing the P5Q-E/Deluxe closely).
FSB gets really important with dual socket rigs though Even for WCG.

BTT, I really do hope I'll receive my UD3 board. No aswer/confirmation yet

[Bobsama]

Who are you getting it from, Jcool?

[jcool]

Same as loonym, or so we hope

[Bobsama]

Ah THAT source. Pretty cool. Where do I signup?

[road-runner]

For a cruncher and the price I think there good boards, of course I have been buying Gigabyte boards since 2006. I have bought 17 boards so far in 2 years...

[Bobsama]

I agree. What are the best memory kits to use on these? I know WCG doesn't particularly care about memory, though.

[acidpython]

I have a EP45-DS4P and the UD3P both are great boards, booted into windows at 515 x 9 on the EP45 DS4P with my Q9650 and run superpi. All auto settings in the bios but vcore and RAM set on 2.1v and 1:1 water cooling...

*snip*

you should be able to push those 3870x2s more, i got 910/999 3dmark06 stable on mine.

On topic, my only experience with gigabyte are two p35 DS3L's. And they are some very stable boards both running q6600's one oc'ed quite nicely to 3.6ghz

After reading this thread I can't was to see how this UD3 performs

[road-runner]

I agree. What are the best memory kits to use on these? I know WCG doesn't particularly care about memory, though.

The UD3/QX has crucial 8500, the other has some Kingston 8500, I bought a couple of those 4x1Gb kits and put 2 sticks in different rigs..

you should be able to push those 3870x2s more, i got 910/999 3dmark06 stable on mine.

On topic, my only experience with gigabyte are two p35 DS3L's. And they are some very stable boards both running q6600's one oc'ed quite nicely to 3.6ghz

After reading this thread I can't was to see how this UD3 performs

I have not tried any higher that was all CCC went to, I have had good luck with there boards them myself...

[Bobsama]

What OS is each running?

And commentary for the X58 board...

I think it would be awesome if they did some custom engineering with all the fans around. I have a great solution in mind for that. Basically make a special card for fans. Perhaps behind the SATA connectors or something, or at a right angle, make a custom port. Then have a small PCB with the headers for fans galore as well as a mini-Molex for supplemental power. Include a cable with it so you can extend the distance between board and the fan PCB, and a small adhesive to secure it somewhere. Saves at least 1 cm^2, if not 2-3 cm^2. Plenty of space for additional ports. Other than that, I'd say slightly redesign that heatsink so the connection between Northbridge and ICH isn't so sharp. Moving it over 1CM or decreasing the angle, combined with actual screws or bolts, would make that top PCI-E x4 slot more usable for x8 and x16 cards if someone really wanted to. In addition, I think it would be a good idea to add one last USB header onto the formal front-panel port, for 4-pin connections (such as front-panel memory card readers). They definitely have the space and it would be a great utility, as you no longer take up 2 ports when 1's good enough.

[naokaji]

I agree. What are the best memory kits to use on these? I know WCG doesn't particularly care about memory, though.

I have a kinda big selection of ram around, I'll see what runs best.

I got a ud3p to replace my p35 platinum, I'll put up some results later.

[Blauhung]

What OS is each running?

And commentary for the X58 board...

I think it would be awesome if they did some custom engineering with all the fans around. I have a great solution in mind for that. Basically make a special card for fans. Perhaps behind the SATA connectors or something, or at a right angle, make a custom port. Then have a small PCB with the headers for fans galore as well as a mini-Molex for supplemental power. Include a cable with it so you can extend the distance between board and the fan PCB, and a small adhesive to secure it somewhere. Saves at least 1 cm^2, if not 2-3 cm^2. Plenty of space for additional ports. Other than that, I'd say slightly redesign that heatsink so the connection between Northbridge and ICH isn't so sharp. Moving it over 1CM or decreasing the angle, combined with actual screws or bolts, would make that top PCI-E x4 slot more usable for x8 and x16 cards if someone really wanted to. In addition, I think it would be a good idea to add one last USB header onto the formal front-panel port, for 4-pin connections (such as front-panel memory card readers). They definitely have the space and it would be a great utility, as you no longer take up 2 ports when 1's good enough.

I agree with you on the fans. That's one place that I've always felt is lacking with a decent high end motherboard. With the exception of a few of my Intel branded boards, almost every 3rd party board has no graceful control over any fan speeds. If a board maker were to split off chassis fans onto some form of riser card with OS/Bios controllable resistance and perhaps even Fan/Temp profiles that would be awesome. No more need for front panel fan speed controllers, just set up temp profiles in OS and your computer optimizes speed and noise on the fly.