No rubber here
1 layer of armaflex tape on front & back of the mobo around the socket, 3 layers of neoprene gaskets that are made to fit the socket on top. Evap head presses down on those 4 layers --> completely airtight. I run 24/7 without any vaseline, rubber, dielectric grease and whatever nasty stuff most people use. No condensation here, plus I can swap CPUs in like 2 minutes without having to clean up more than the thermal grease
My SS unit is tuned for high load, not low temps tho... so I usually run "only" -30C loaded and it's never below -39C...
What do you mean exactly, when you say your P5Q DLX is a bad clocker?Originally Posted by S_B
I used one recently for a customer's build and was very impressed. No trouble running an E8500 at FSB 500, along with 8GB of ram @ 1100Mhz without using any high voltages (1,18V VTT, 1,4V MCH, 2V Vdimm).
Almost no Vdroop which is great, only thing that annoyed me is the lack of voltage displays in bios
Main rig:
CPU: I7 920C0 @ 3.6Ghz (180*20)
Mobo: DFI UT X58 T3eH8
RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 Platinum
GPU/LCD: GeForce GTX280 + GeForce 8600GTS (Quad LCDs)
Intel X25-M G2 80GB, 12TB storage
PSU/Case: Corsair AX850, Silverstone TJ07
That's a dual-core chip. I'm running a quad core. I'm also speaking in relative terms. There are other boards that can get much higher FSB with either a dual or quad core. But I like my P5Q Dlx because it's been problem-free and I don't need to run high VCore. It's also my main PC. The quad core is unlocked, so I don't need to run high FSB to get decent speed.
Audentes fortuna iuvat
"Fortune favors the bold"
RR: nice systems. Quad-fire HD3870s? And correct me if I'm wrong, but the UD3P is running with a pair of HD4850 Toxics, right?
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
Main rig:
CPU: I7 920C0 @ 3.6Ghz (180*20)
Mobo: DFI UT X58 T3eH8
RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 Platinum
GPU/LCD: GeForce GTX280 + GeForce 8600GTS (Quad LCDs)
Intel X25-M G2 80GB, 12TB storage
PSU/Case: Corsair AX850, Silverstone TJ07
What CPUs in each?
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
It's not so much about the FSB 500 (any P965 can run a Dualcore at FSB500) I was impressed... more because of the 8GB mem clock.
Most boards can't even touch 1000Mhz with 8GB DDR2, and this one just did 1100 with no hassle, low volts and FSB 500 on top.
Sierra, what is your approx. max FSB with a quad on the P5Q? If you know it, also the max FSB of the CPU on any other board? Talking primestable here. Thanks.
When I was testing, I think I got up to around 450FSB. I have not run Prime in about two years. All I care about is if it's WCG-stable. For daily use, I run 330X10. FSB is not that important in WCG.
I usually spend about a week testing a new cruncher. I can generally tell if it's going to be stable enough for WCG without the need to run Prime. I've never had any problems with blue screens or reboots. I have one cruncher that's been going almost non-stop for two years. That's the P5B Dlx which runs at 400X8. I have to run 400FSB because 8 is the highest multiplier on the chip.
Last edited by sierra_bound; 10-19-2008 at 02:43 PM.
Audentes fortuna iuvat
"Fortune favors the bold"
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
Ok. Well still sounds pretty good. I like your setups--a bit messy (if I do say so myself ) but it has a lot of power.
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
Ok thanks, 450 is enough for my use (trying to decide which mobo will replace the IP35 Pro in my "basic" systems lineup, eyeing the P5Q-E/Deluxe closely).
FSB gets really important with dual socket rigs though Even for WCG.
BTT, I really do hope I'll receive my UD3 board. No aswer/confirmation yet
Who are you getting it from, Jcool?
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
Same as loonym, or so we hope
Ah THAT source. Pretty cool. Where do I signup?
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
For a cruncher and the price I think there good boards, of course I have been buying Gigabyte boards since 2006. I have bought 17 boards so far in 2 years...
I agree. What are the best memory kits to use on these? I know WCG doesn't particularly care about memory, though.
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
you should be able to push those 3870x2s more, i got 910/999 3dmark06 stable on mine.
On topic, my only experience with gigabyte are two p35 DS3L's. And they are some very stable boards both running q6600's one oc'ed quite nicely to 3.6ghz
After reading this thread I can't was to see how this UD3 performs
The UD3/QX has crucial 8500, the other has some Kingston 8500, I bought a couple of those 4x1Gb kits and put 2 sticks in different rigs..
I have not tried any higher that was all CCC went to, I have had good luck with there boards them myself...
What OS is each running?
And commentary for the X58 board...
I think it would be awesome if they did some custom engineering with all the fans around. I have a great solution in mind for that. Basically make a special card for fans. Perhaps behind the SATA connectors or something, or at a right angle, make a custom port. Then have a small PCB with the headers for fans galore as well as a mini-Molex for supplemental power. Include a cable with it so you can extend the distance between board and the fan PCB, and a small adhesive to secure it somewhere. Saves at least 1 cm^2, if not 2-3 cm^2. Plenty of space for additional ports. Other than that, I'd say slightly redesign that heatsink so the connection between Northbridge and ICH isn't so sharp. Moving it over 1CM or decreasing the angle, combined with actual screws or bolts, would make that top PCI-E x4 slot more usable for x8 and x16 cards if someone really wanted to. In addition, I think it would be a good idea to add one last USB header onto the formal front-panel port, for 4-pin connections (such as front-panel memory card readers). They definitely have the space and it would be a great utility, as you no longer take up 2 ports when 1's good enough.
My toys:
Asus Sabertooth X58 | Core i7-950 (D0) | CM Hyper 212+ | G.Skill Sniper LV 12GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | GeForce GTX 670-2048MB | OCZ Agility 4 512GB, WD Raptor 150GB x 3 (RAID0), WD Black 1TB x 2 (RAID0) | XFX 650W CAH9 | Lian-Li PC-9F | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Gigabyte EX58-UD3R | Core i7-920 (D0) | Stock HSF | G.Skill Sniper LV 4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 | Radeon HD 2600 Pro 512MB | WD Caviar 80GB IDE, 4TB x 2 (RAID5) | Corsair TX750 | XClio 188AF | Win 7 Pro x86-64
Dell Dimension 8400 | Pentium 4 530 HT (E0) | Stock HSF | 1.5GB DDR2-400 CL3 | GeForce 8800 GT 256MB | WD Caviar 160GB SATA | Stock PSU | (Broken) Stock Case | Win Vista HP x86
Little Dot DAC_I | Little Dot MK IV | Beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) | TEAC AG-H300 MkIII | Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2's
I agree with you on the fans. That's one place that I've always felt is lacking with a decent high end motherboard. With the exception of a few of my Intel branded boards, almost every 3rd party board has no graceful control over any fan speeds. If a board maker were to split off chassis fans onto some form of riser card with OS/Bios controllable resistance and perhaps even Fan/Temp profiles that would be awesome. No more need for front panel fan speed controllers, just set up temp profiles in OS and your computer optimizes speed and noise on the fly.
Main-- i7-980x @ 4.5GHZ | Asus P6X58D-E | HD5850 @ 950core 1250mem | 2x160GB intel x25-m G2's |
Wife-- i7-860 @ 3.5GHz | Gigabyte P55M-UD4 | HD5770 | 80GB Intel x25-m |
HTPC1-- Q9450 | Asus P5E-VM | HD3450 | 1TB storage
HTPC2-- QX9750 | Asus P5E-VM | 1TB storage |
Car-- T7400 | Kontron mini-ITX board | 80GB Intel x25-m | Azunetech X-meridian for sound |
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