Commando... again

**before** · 10-16-2008, 08:48 AM

Just for fun cause none of the 2 of my recent boards (Biostar P45, DFI P45) that I tried was able to deal with this E8600.

I've got hard times trying to clock it with the DFI JR and the Biostar TPower; but both gave weird results (5.5GHz+ on DFI; 5.9GHz+ on Biostar both with tons of different settings). First of all, I've used Grosse Bertha 3-Stager and LN², but that was too cold... then with Petite Bertha 2-Stager which was too cold as well.

I started losing my temper; thinking that maybe the CPU was rubbish.

Well, finally I took an old commando of mine, and quickly tried the CPU on air... It booted up at 5.1GHz (600x8.5) @1.45v (BIOS) radbox cooled.

And it easily reached the actual FSB air limit of the board (610).

Consequently, I've decided to use a 'smaller' cascade (CPU IHS at -98C to -90C so far; lets say about -110C to -102C evap).

Code:

M/B：Asus Commando, Vdroop mod
CPU：Intel Core Extreme E8600 Q822A
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade 
Memory：Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 1024MBx2
VGA：Asus HD3870
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Cooler-Master 1250W
Vcore：1.85V(BIOS)
Vdimm: AUTO
Vmch: AUTO
Vfsb: AUTO
OS：Windows 2003 Server

This commando won't give better results I guess... waiting for boblemagnifique, and some more stuff to bench during the week end.

We will hopefully be able to get some nice marks out of this little piece of silicone.

**Gautam** · 10-16-2008, 09:59 AM

Nice job Xav. You must be doing something right if two out of 3 of your cascades are too cold.

**koda** · 10-16-2008, 11:02 AM

Very nice Beefor (hmmm what's this

)

Well done as usual buddy

I need to find a pro-meeting at Aix to visit you

**before** · 10-16-2008, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Gautam

Nice job Xav. You must be doing something right if two out of 3 of your cascades are too cold.

Thanks mate

Well, I'm using huge compressors...

Originally Posted by koda

Very nice Beefor (hmmm what's this

)

Well done as usual buddy

I need to find a pro-meeting at Aix to visit you

Thanks buddy

Let me know when you come here.

The commando isn't too bad for 1M. I'm gonna try with 2x512MB which shown to be more appropriate on actual board.

**Viss** · 10-16-2008, 01:21 PM

Good to see 965 in action again mate. Hope youll get it up and running on the DFI this weekend.

**Delex** · 10-16-2008, 01:23 PM

Nice run! I need help with the Biostar Tpower I45, could we talk by MSN?

Alex

**vservera** · 10-16-2008, 01:59 PM

Nice m8, maybe it will go more on LN2

**PPInDaHouse** · 10-16-2008, 04:09 PM

Quite good eficciency there Before

**before** · 10-17-2008, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by loc.o

Good to see 965 in action again mate. Hope youll get it up and running on the DFI this weekend.

Thanks

Well maybe something newer... and another CPU

Originally Posted by Delex

Nice run! I need help with the Biostar Tpower I45, could we talk by MSN?

Alex

Drop me a pm buddy.

Originally Posted by vservera

Nice m8, maybe it will go more on LN2

Thx; as I said, 2 of my cascades were too cold, and so was LN². Of course, it is possible to focus on LN² but it would be a waste of it; I mean benching at about -100C is more appropriate for a cascade. Additionally, actual board won't pass ~625FSB for suicide screens no matter the CPU cooling.

Originally Posted by PPInDaHouse

Quite good eficciency there Before

Thanks!

**PcCI2iminal** · 10-17-2008, 04:29 AM

Commando rocks,very nice Xavier

**F.O.G.N.A.** · 10-17-2008, 04:44 AM

WOW

Impressive mainboard

Congrats bfore

**before** · 10-17-2008, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

Commando rocks,very nice Xavier

Thanks PcCI2iminal-san

I'm gonna try with another commando which I'm sure can achieve higher FSB clocks.

Originally Posted by F.O.G.N.A.

WOW

Impressive mainboard

Congrats bfore

Thank you.

Here's a faster run.

Code:

M/B：Asus Commando, Vdroop mod
CPU：Intel Core Extreme E8600 Q822A
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade 
Memory：Wintec PC2-8800 (D9GKX) 512MBx2
VGA：Asus HD3870
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Cooler-Master 1250W
Vcore：1.85V(BIOS)
Vdimm: 2.50V(BIOS)
Vmch: AUTO
Vfsb: AUTO
OS：Windows 2003 Server
Misc.: boot @610FSBx10

**~~TheKarmakazi~~** · 10-17-2008, 06:30 AM

nice runs! commando is still competitive after all this time!

**Unseen** · 10-17-2008, 07:47 AM

Well done

those screws are not "fast cpu change friendly"!

**[XC] Oj101** · 10-17-2008, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by before

Additionally, actual board won't pass ~625FSB for suicide screens no matter the CPU cooling.

Freezing the northbridge should help with that. The thing limiting you is (I believe) a memory limitation. Regardless of dividers and voltages I CANNOT get above 606MHz dual channel. Try single channel, in my experience it opens up a lot of headroom and I've actually had single channel beat dual channel at the same speed and timings in Pi. Let me know

**Hyperhorn** · 10-17-2008, 04:38 PM

Commando FTW

Well done!
But your chair looks very uncomfortable.

**before** · 10-18-2008, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

nice runs! commando is still competitive after all this time!

Thx. Yeah, for Spi1M, the commando is still leading.

Originally Posted by Unseen

Well done

those screws are not "fast cpu change friendly"!

Thx mate. Right, nevertheless there are nice to put some fans over the board.

Originally Posted by Oj101

Freezing the northbridge should help with that. The thing limiting you is (I believe) a memory limitation. Regardless of dividers and voltages I CANNOT get above 606MHz dual channel. Try single channel, in my experience it opens up a lot of headroom and I've actually had single channel beat dual channel at the same speed and timings in Pi. Let me know

Well, cooling the NB might help a bit; but not too much. Actually, with actual board 2x512MB is the only way to grab stability within the 600FSB+ range. 611FSB has been the max for 32M computations, while ~619FSB is the high-end for 1Ms.

The only way that I found to get few FSBs more is to sacrifice tRFC. I tried to run only one DRAM module but it didn't help.

About voltages, apart from vCORE and vDDR, it looks better to let the BIOS choose.

Originally Posted by Hyperhorn

Commando FTW

Well done!
But your chair looks very uncomfortable.

It isn't!

lol BTW I prefer to stand up.

**Monstru** · 10-18-2008, 02:10 AM

Good old Commando still puts up a hell of a fight. Great work!!!

**[XC] Oj101** · 10-18-2008, 04:13 AM

Like I said, try one stick of RAM

I can hit 640MHz with single channel.

**boblemagnifique** · 10-18-2008, 07:37 AM

News Test in the week end (Commando x2 , DFI P45 Dark Plus , Biostar Tpower i45 and 3 x E8600)

Wait & see

**Monstru** · 10-18-2008, 12:16 PM

Holly.....you guys are doing something big. Good luck and squeeze everything out of that Commando

**Turrican** · 10-19-2008, 12:37 AM

holy crap, awesome results bro

**before** · 10-19-2008, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Oj101

Like I said, try one stick of RAM

I can hit 640MHz with single channel.

It might depend on both the DRAM and the board. We tried with a second commando of mine, but it didn't help at all.

Originally Posted by Monstru

Good old Commando still puts up a hell of a fight. Great work!!!

Thanks mate!

Originally Posted by Monstru

Holly.....you guys are doing something big. Good luck and squeeze everything out of that Commando

Thx.

Originally Posted by Turrican

holy crap, awesome results bro

Thank you!

**loopy83** · 10-19-2008, 04:54 AM

Commando back in Action..... nice to see.....

**before** · 10-19-2008, 07:34 AM

Thanks.

Unfortunately, 630x10 (7.2XXs), 625x10 (7.265s) were too unstable for taking screenshots.

Code:

M/B：Asus Commando, Vcore, Vdroop mod
CPU：Intel Core Extreme E8600 Q822A
CPU cooling：Solid copper container (LN² @-120C)
Memory：Wintec PC2-8800 AMPX (D9GKX) 512MBx2
VGA：Asus HD3870
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Cooler-Master 1250W
Vcore：1.898V(BIOS)
Vdimm: 2.55V(BIOS)
Vmch: 1.725V(BIOS)
Vfsb: AUTO
OS：Windows 2003 Server
Misc.: boot @600FSBx10

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