Page 1 of 8 1234 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 184

Thread: AMD To Crank Up Phenom II Clock-Speeds Upto 3.50 GHz, Planning New Models

  1. #1
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    1,084

    AMD To Crank Up Phenom II Clock-Speeds Upto 3.50 GHz, Planning New Models

    Beating its chest on the "massive headroom" (read: clock speed increment potential) its newest line of processors, the Phenom II have, it was about time the company utilized the said headroom to carve out new SKUs. With the AM2+ exclusive Phenom II X4 940 already showing impressive overclocking potential, while shipping with a clock speed of 3.00 GHz, the company is planning to increase stock clock speeds in increments of 100 MHz (0.5x multiplier) with a string of SKUs post Phenom II X4 950. This according to the insider sources a German website called AMD News caught up with.

    All the upcoming processors will be built on the AM3 package, making them compatible with DDR3 and DDR2 memory standards. With the Phenom II X4 950 being clocked at 3.10 GHz, succeeding SKUs take 100 MHz steps, starting from a Phenom II X4 960 at 3.20 GHz to a Phenom II X4 990 at 3.50 GHz. Despite the high clock speeds, the chips will continue to maintain rated TDPs of 125W. At some point within the succession, AMD will crank up the HyperTransport interconnect speed from 1,800 MHz to 2,000 MHz. The launch-schedule for these processors will be spread throughout 2009.

    The models in the new series consist of:

    * Phenom II X4 950 (3.10 GHz, 15.5 x 200)
    * Phenom II X4 960 (3.20 GHz, 16 x 200)
    * Phenom II X4 970 (3.30 GHz, 16.5 x 200)
    * Phenom II X4 980 (3.40 GHz, 17 x 200)
    * Phenom II X4 990 (3.50 GHz, 17.5 x 200)
    http://www.techpowerup.com/83608/AMD...ew_Models.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    And AMD is only a CPU manufactor due to stolen technology and making clones.

  2. #2
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    7,747
    FUD I say. Specially after the 3.1Ghz new peak with 125W TDP. Not even to mention the source

    11 days ago they posted this:

    Last edited by Shintai; 01-30-2009 at 02:02 PM.
    Crunching for Comrades and the Common good of the People.

  3. #3
    Xtremely High Voltage Sparky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    16,040
    Well no offense but you being an intel guy and AMD hater I don't care what you say

    Remains to be seen. That's all. I take all news with a grain of salt.
    The Cardboard Master
    Crunch with us, the XS WCG team
    Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz, 16GB DDR3-1600, Radeon 7950 @ 1000/1250, Win 10 Pro x64

  4. #4
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,713
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    FUD I say. Specially after the 3.1Ghz new peak with 125W TDP. Not even to mention the source
    and?
    TAMGc5: PhII X4 945, Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD3P, 2x Kingston PC2-6400 HyperX CL4 2GB, 2x ASUS HD 5770 CUcore Xfire, Razer Barracuda AC1, Win8 Pro x64 (Current)

    TAMGc6: AMD FX, Gigabyte GA-xxxx-UDx, 8GB/16GB DDR3, Nvidia 680 GTX, ASUS Xonar, 2x 120/160GB SSD, 1x WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gb/s, Win8 Pro x64 (Planned)

  5. #5
    Xtreme Mentor
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    2,550
    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    Well no offense but you being an intel guy and AMD hater I don't care what you say

    Remains to be seen. That's all. I take all news with a grain of salt.
    grain? how about truck of grains?
    Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We expect to provide native support for 64-bit platforms in an upcoming release of Flash Player following the release of Flash Player 10.1.

  6. #6
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,713
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedjo View Post
    grain? how about truck of grains?
    thats getting the saying wrong, the less salt better the meaning.
    TAMGc5: PhII X4 945, Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD3P, 2x Kingston PC2-6400 HyperX CL4 2GB, 2x ASUS HD 5770 CUcore Xfire, Razer Barracuda AC1, Win8 Pro x64 (Current)

    TAMGc6: AMD FX, Gigabyte GA-xxxx-UDx, 8GB/16GB DDR3, Nvidia 680 GTX, ASUS Xonar, 2x 120/160GB SSD, 1x WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gb/s, Win8 Pro x64 (Planned)

  7. #7
    Xtreme Guru
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Posts
    4,046
    i hope it materializes.. idk what the big deal is ~3.5ghz ?

    why impossible ?

  8. #8
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    179
    100mhz difference between cpu clock speeds is stupid. They should at least do it 200mhz difference.

  9. #9
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    7,750
    the funny thing about that chart posted by shintia, they wont have a C4 stepping for another 2 years, and C3 until late this year. sorry but i dont believe that. and this is all speculation on how AMD will spend numbers above 950, sure they gave themselves headroom to use higher numbers for better chips, but i doubt they have a solid plan for the next 2 years of this chip when its been out for a month and they JUST announced the 3.1ghz

  10. #10
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    1,356
    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    i hope it materializes.. idk what the big deal is ~3.5ghz ?

    why impossible ?
    Exactly. 3.5 seems pretty reasonable based on what we've seen of PhII thus far.

    I could see AMD not doing it solely to avoid provoking Intel retaliation, but who knows.

  11. #11
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    The Netherlands, Friesland
    Posts
    2,244
    It's not unusual for AMD to bring out CPU's that run on the edge, if you look at previous generations.

    It actually doesn't really matter if you ask me.
    Stock 3.5ghz or 3.0ghz, I would overclock it anyway.
    A black edition has unlocked upwards multiplier so the higher multipliers are also not important to me.
    >i5-3570K
    >Asrock Z77E-ITX Wifi
    >Asus GTX 670 Mini
    >Cooltek Coolcube Black
    >CM Silent Pro M700
    >Crucial M4 128Gb Msata
    >Cooler Master Seidon 120M
    Hell yes its a mini-ITX gaming rig!

  12. #12
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    6,215
    While this is not quite probable(at least the top model),the very 3.5Ghz frequency is just 16% over stock 3Ghz clock of the 940 and just 12% over the upcoming 3.1Ghz 950 model.So with process tweaks ,I say it's not impossible that AMD can crank 12% more clocks while remaining within the same TDP envelope(3.1Ghz x 1.12=3.5GHz,same TDP with more mature process technology).
    If they manage the 3.5Ghz/125W ,then AMD will have the needed chip to compete with i7 940,leaving only the 965 as the top chip without a direct competitor from green team.
    Last edited by informal; 01-30-2009 at 02:16 PM.

  13. #13
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    London Ontario Canada
    Posts
    1,157
    I think they can do it I also believe intel can release a core 2 duo clocked at 4ghz so far all I see is good competition in the future man I love it cant wait to see price drops with AMD continually getting better
    Case: Corsair 400R
    PSU: Corsair HX1000W
    mobo: Maximus IV Gene
    CPU: 2500K @ 4.2ghz 1.19 volts
    RAM: Gskill Ripjaws 1866mhz 2 x 4 gigs
    OS Drive: Kingston Hyper X ssd 120 gig
    Graphics: XFX HD5850
    Cooling: Corsair H100
    OS: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit







  14. #14
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    7,750
    translated source of his source's source

    http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

  15. #15
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Birmingham AL.
    Posts
    1,079
    PhII already fits in the 125w TDP at 3.5 all they need to work on is getting all of them to run 3.5ghz at <1.3v
    Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
    As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.

    Rule 1A:
    Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.

    Rule 2:
    When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.

    Rule 2A:
    When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.

    Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!

  16. #16
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    2,128
    The actual power consumption is nowhere near 125W. The stock cooler is rated for such power consumption for some reason, possibly due to these new SKU's or due to stock cooler overclocking.

  17. #17
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    EvE-Online, Tranquility
    Posts
    1,978
    Ugh, 3.5Ghz isnt an issue for PhII. Although Ive to admit it's stupid for OC'ers to get one, unless there are other improvements.

    However, 3.5Ghz is no issue at all And people who dont OC will be quite attracted by this as well.
    Synaptic Overflow

    CPU:
    -Intel Core i7 920 3841A522
    --CPU: 4200Mhz| Vcore: +120mV| Uncore: 3200Mhz| VTT: +100mV| Turbo: On| HT: Off
    ---CPU block: EK Supreme Acetal| Radiator: TCF X-Changer 480mm
    Motherboard:
    -Foxconn Bloodrage P06
    --Blck: 200Mhz| QPI: 3600Mhz
    Graphics:
    -Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2
    --GPU: 750Mhz| GDDR: 900Mhz
    RAM:
    -3x 2GB Mushkin XP3-12800
    --Mhz: 800Mhz| Vdimm: 1.65V| Timings: 7-8-7-20-1T
    Storage:
    -3Ware 9650SE-2LP RAID controller
    --2x Western Digital 74GB Raptor RAID 0
    PSU:
    -Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W
    OS:
    -Windows Vista Business x64


    ORDERED: Sapphire HD 5970 OC
    LOOKING FOR: 2x G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD, Windows 7

  18. #18
    Xtreme Mentor
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    2,550
    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    PhII already fits in the 125w TDP at 3.5 all they need to work on is getting all of them to run 3.5ghz at <1.3v
    it's not exactly "all of them", but yeah it should be as many as possible! Like always the key is in yield... all chip manufacturers make pick on given frequency based on satisfying yield...
    Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We expect to provide native support for 64-bit platforms in an upcoming release of Flash Player following the release of Flash Player 10.1.

  19. #19
    Xtreme Mentor
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    2,693
    doubt it.
    5 models ranging from 3.1 to 3.5? come on.
    Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
    Groucho Marx



    i know my grammar sux so stop hitting me

  20. #20
    I am Xtreme FlanK3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Czech republic
    Posts
    6,823
    Nice...Im waiting to summer for any BE chip
    ROG Power PCs - Intel and AMD
    CPUs:i9-7900X, i9-9900K, i7-6950X, i7-5960X, i7-8086K, i7-8700K, 4x i7-7700K, i3-7350K, 2x i7-6700K, i5-6600K, R7-2700X, 4x R5 2600X, R5 2400G, R3 1200, R7-1800X, R7-1700X, 3x AMD FX-9590, 1x AMD FX-9370, 4x AMD FX-8350,1x AMD FX-8320,1x AMD FX-8300, 2x AMD FX-6300,2x AMD FX-4300, 3x AMD FX-8150, 2x AMD FX-8120 125 and 95W, AMD X2 555 BE, AMD x4 965 BE C2 and C3, AMD X4 970 BE, AMD x4 975 BE, AMD x4 980 BE, AMD X6 1090T BE, AMD X6 1100T BE, A10-7870K, Athlon 845, Athlon 860K,AMD A10-7850K, AMD A10-6800K, A8-6600K, 2x AMD A10-5800K, AMD A10-5600K, AMD A8-3850, AMD A8-3870K, 2x AMD A64 3000+, AMD 64+ X2 4600+ EE, Intel i7-980X, Intel i7-2600K, Intel i7-3770K,2x i7-4770K, Intel i7-3930KAMD Cinebench R10 challenge AMD Cinebench R15 thread Intel Cinebench R15 thread

  21. #21
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    197
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    doubt it.
    5 models ranging from 3.1 to 3.5? come on.
    Yes it is plain stupid, Amd should ditch the 3.1 one, and go 3.2 then 3.4 and then 3.6

  22. #22
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,341
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    FUD I say. Specially after the 3.1Ghz new peak with 125W TDP. Not even to mention the source

    11 days ago they posted this:

    i7 920 is also 130W tdp yet there are higher clocked versions in same range...

    http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=37147



    next 925 is already in reduced 95W tdp range thx to new stepping, so i am sure there is more headroom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Fanboyitis..
    Comes in two variations and both deadly.
    There's the green strain and the blue strain on CPU.. There's the red strain and the green strain on GPU..

  23. #23
    D.F.I Pimp Daddy
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Still Lost At The Dead Show Parking Lot
    Posts
    5,182
    I have 2 Phenom II 940 BE one does 3.5ghz @ stock and the other 3.6@stock vcore. Seeing how this is a consistent pattern from what the majority experiences I would say its very doable
    SuperMicro X8SAX
    Xeon 5620
    12GB - Crucial ECC DDR3 1333
    Intel 520 180GB Cherryville
    Areca 1231ML ~ 2~ 250GB Seagate ES.2 ~ Raid 0 ~ 4~ Hitachi 5K3000 2TB ~ Raid 6 ~

  24. #24
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    1,782
    Quote Originally Posted by Salavat23 View Post
    100mhz difference between cpu clock speeds is stupid. They should at least do it 200mhz difference.
    I think that really depends on the price difference. For us overclockers it's pretty much a joke, but give the average Joe Sixpack a choice between 3.1ghz or 3.2ghz for say a $10 - $15 dollar difference, they'll bite at the higher speed. It's no cost difference for AMD to produce the 3.1 or 3.2 chip, so they can easily pocket the extra $$$ and God knows they need every single penny they can earn.
    Last edited by freeloader; 01-30-2009 at 04:10 PM.

  25. #25
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,035
    Shaping up fine for AMD

    Seems like they will be more competitive up to mid/high end than their last gen.

Page 1 of 8 1234 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •