What do you think of E8400

[someonee]

I'm thinking of upgrading from Q6600 to E8400 I don't see any benefit to the quad core in the next few years. Very few games or programs take advantage of it. So what do you guys think the one I have is the wrong batch so I can't get a good over clock out of it the new one is 45nm so it seems better. Do you guys have batch numbers and stats on the newer processor. I will have to sell my old one so I don't know if you guys have better idea's on this.

[Leeghoofd]

Look for Gurusans OC list and mine is in my signature (not 100% up to date)

But I would strongly suggest you to hunt down an E8500 EO stepping... that will guarantee 4ghz at minimal voltages (Sub 1.2 Vcore), which mobo do you own ?

[someonee]

Yes my Rig

4x [Corsair TWINX 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P.]
[Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K-E Rev 1.xx]
[Ultra Aluminus Mid Tower ATX Case]
2x [EVGA GeForce 7900 GS KO 256MB PCIe w/Dual DVI/HDTV] Two of them
[3 Hard drives ] One is dedicated to unzipping files I found that it craps out the main drive
[Noctua NF-S12-800 120MM Ultra Quiet Cooling Fan 800RPM 59M3/H 8DBA Molex] few of them
[OCZ 700W]
Watersystem

[D-TEK Customs Fuzion CPU Water Block S478/LGA775/S939/AM2/S754 1/2IN Barbs]
[Swiftech MCW60 GPU Water Block for Most NVIDIA & ATI Video Cards 1/2IN & 3/8IN Barbs W/RAMSINKS] Two of them
[Danger Den Dual Heater Core Water Cooling Radiator with Shroud for Dual 120MM Fans 1/2IN Fittings] Two of them
[Noctua NF-S12-800 120MM Ultra Quiet Cooling Fan 800RPM 59M3/H 8DBA Molex] 4 of them
[Sunbeam 4 Port Rheobus Fan Controller Kit Silver] Two of them
[1/2 inside diameter I think 5/8 out side tubing for dishwasher at home depo rated for 174Fahrenheit]
[Swiftech MCRES-MICRO Clear HI-FLOW Water Cooling Reservoir 3/8IN & 1/2IN Barb Fittings]

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Has been tweaked for better performance

Hears a picture been upgraded since then http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143261

I'm also thinking about SSD hardrive http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...acture=Patriot
or
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...acture=Patriot

You seem to feel strongly about E8500 do you have any stats for that to show the difference. I don't trust if it says EO stepping My current one is GO stepping and the does not mean nothing I only trust the batch number correct me if I'm wrong.

I regret not having water cooling on the board it self but its not a easy thing very hard and I don't feel like frying boards. Crapy chipset coolers don't do the trick they will fry the board every time. My chipset has a square in the middle of the chip and outer part of the chip is medle resisters is what it looks like the space difference is if flush be about 1/8 in to 1/32 ...... In other words you need something that is shaped to handle a small area plus have 4 mounts (possibly rubber outers) to keep it from moving around my board sucks that way.

[Glow9]

If you don't game your not going to notice a difference. If you do game then upgrade your video cards you'll notice a bigger difference from that then going to a e8400. I haven't seen too many reviews where they was anything significant between the 2 chips.

[xdan]

I think that you're wrong, and what you want to do is a bad move.
The differece between E8400 and Q6600 is small, and in some aplications,
Q6600 beats E8400. So this can't be called an "upgrade"
Wait to X58(lga1366) and Nehalem(266$ the cheap) if you want to do a true upgrade

[Dua|ist]

I'd keep a Q6600 (although I have a 8400 myself) and wait for Lynnfield to upgrade everything at once then. But in this case you'd have to wait for at least half a year...

[B.E.E.F.]

Its not an upgrade. Its the same thing. Faster per core, but with half the cores.

[panheimer]

Agree. It's not an upgrade. You'll got very little difference from a dual core clocked at 4 ghz or higher. Just keep your q6600 and spend your money for a new vga (btw do you really have a P5K-E mobo and 2 7900GS?): you'll really see a performance boost!
But if you just wanna run some benchmarks and enter the over 4 ghz club, i think e8400 and e8500 are worthing the money...

[someonee]

I'm not in a hurry my system is nice as it is but defeats the purpose of having a over clocker. I never really found any programs that take advantage of quad core I think its dumb more power yes but what for can't use it. I was looking for video tools that could but gave up. So if you guys think better stuff coming out then sure I will wait If you think thats best I hope I can still get some money for the processor by then so Its not too expensive. By the way the two 7900's are very nice reliable I don't want to upgrade them. There is only one game out there crysis that really worth direct X10 but even then I can live with it. There is no video card that can do that less than $400 to $800 not worth the money. Most of the cards are clocked down.

[panheimer]

I still can't figure out what are you doing with 2 7900GS. P5K-E has a P35 chipset so you can't run the 7900 in SLI, so what do you do with them?

[TheGanG]

I still can't figure out what are you doing with 2 7900GS. P5K-E has a P35 chipset so you can't run the 7900 in SLI, so what do you do with them?

Yeah, that's odd...


It's kinda downgrade except 45nm/6Mb L2.

New 45nm Q series are good choices; Q9550 2.83GHz /12Mb L2 $329.99 (E8400 $169.99) May be it's better to hold your Q6600 for a while...

[someonee]

well the two video cards where for SLI I can over clock them but I find the software to dumb sometimes very tricky to get it right.

So what coming out thats worth the wait you think I should get E8500 that will cost me about $90 more I was thinking if I sold my processor now the new one would be about the same. I just want to know if its really worth the extra cash.

[Ket]

It depends just how far your Q6600 can OC, if you can hit say 3.8GHz getting an E8400 is pointless. The money your considering spending I would put on a HD4850 or a new mobo, then offload your 79s and use the money for a 4850

[someonee]

your kidding right I told you this one was not a over clocker I can barely get it up to 3G

[nugzo]

No, your kidding right? You can't run SLI on your motherboard. Just because you have 2 7900's installed it doesn't make it SLI. If you indeed want to run your 7900's in SLI then you need a new motherboard not a new CPU.


Edit. Your above link to your system shows you have a p5N-e. You said you had a P5K above when asked.

Yes my Rig
[Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K-E Rev 1.xx]

Which do you have? If you have the p5n-e, and the p5k was a typo, then my apologies.

I was running 4200mhz with my E8500 and 4500mhz with the E8600 E0 on Air cooling. The E0 variants of the E8500 should give you 4400+ with water assuming your video cards arent killing the loop. Even with the cards in the loop, you should get better OC's with a dual vs a quad. The quads really need a loop of their own. If gaming is your main goal then i dont know how much increase you will see with a faster CPU. The cards, even though they maybe in SLI, are probably your bottleneck.

[someonee]

My post was correct if you think that is so its because your looking at old link I'm not updating my video cards right now just my processor

[nugzo]

So you say you are running SLI on a P5K?

[someonee]

ya I'm running sli

what do you think of Q9550 I think I might be able to get it for $300

[Tonucci]

ya I'm running sli

On what board ?

[someonee]

P5k-e

[nugzo]

ya I'm running sli

what do you think of Q9550 I think I might be able to get it for $300

LOL you do not make any sense. You started this thread out saying you want to get rid of the quad because you didnt need it. Now you want a different quad?

And i can assure you that you are NOT running SLI on a P5K.

[Tonucci]

P5k-e

This board does not run sli. Therefore if you have 2 nvidia cards on the board the second one is sitting idle

[someonee]

My current processor was the wrong batch so It could not over clock I was think of keeping it under $300 because I could get about $200 for my old one. Yes I have not made up my mind about what I'm going to get I'm running SLI currently playing Crisis warhead its looks decent clean clear smooth not as nice as full direct x 10 but still good.

[someonee]

I can get Q9550 batch # is L821B007 Sspec SLAWQ Is that a good batch .... I can get it for $300 seams like a good deal. I have been told that its C1 Stepping is it worth it http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLAWQ

I guess sli does not work never thought of that when I upgraded it I thought it would work there both 16X slots you would think it would work well does anybody want to buy a motherboard. Na SLI was the same problem very few games have it when you place the cost it cost the same to get one card not two why pay extra to get hit and miss.

[panheimer]

Don't get me wrong, but you have to improve your knowledge before wasting money. If you're not able to push your q6600 over 3 ghz, probably you won't go much further with another cpu. P35 chipset has always been good for ocing, and every q6600 i've put my hand on reached at least 3.3 ghz even with crappy chipset like nvidia 680 and 780 and i'm pretty an average clocker.
But reading your post i think you will swap your CPU even if the whole forum tell you not to do, so my personal suggestion is to don't buy this Q9550, C1 is old stepping, don't really know if L821B007 is a good batch but you'll get more luck with an E0 stepping (s-spec SLB8V) and it's still a quad so like you told before very few application a no games for now will support all 4 cores.
If you really want to waste money, look for an E8400 with E0 stepping: a dual core is more friendly in ocing.
If i were you, i'd sell both 7900s and get a 4850 or a 4870 or a 260gtx, or at least sell one of them to get cash for your cpu swap: the 2nd vga is only draining power and giving heat!