Athlon 64 3200+ are unlocked as well!!!

[Manoj]

HI!

I got the Athlon 64 3200+ today and I noticed that it also is unlocked.

However, since the default multiplier is 10X, I can only use 4x up to 10x.

Not a problem, since I plan to lower the multiplier and raise the FSB anyway.

I am using the Albatron K8X800 Pro II motherboard.

[OPPAINTER]

I knew it

Good deal, hopefully Abit will allow for all the Multipliers to work.

OPP

[saaya]

doesnt it say 5bit something on their prodcut page for theit via K8 board?

lowering the multi and raising the fsb? via maxes out at 220fsb, i dont think any of the 3200s wont do 2.2ghz... even with crappy aircooling. you will want to raise the multi as well as they seem to do 2.4+ on air

[Manoj]

Oh!

Let me see.

I have always thought lower the multiplier is good.

May be this time it will not be the case.

[Holst]

At least its a start.

Are there only optionf for 4-10X multiplyers?

hopefully they can work out how to add more

[Penti]

Originally posted by saaya
doesnt it say 5bit something on their prodcut page for theit via K8 board?

Well even if its 4bit it should be able to go up to atleast 11.5X.
But who knows how it works on the A64..


Manoj
Nice rigg

[STEvil]

Could be a pin trick we can do like on the XP's to get 11x and up

[Kunaak]

wouldn't suppose you can post some pics

[Manoj]

Originally posted by MickeyMouse
who cares about the 4x-10x multi's when nobody in there right mind will use less than 10x.. Im running 257mhz 1:1 and wouldn't dream about even using the 9.5x multi let alone less.. its good that the 4x-10x are ava. meaning that its almost a given that the chips could be unlocked, but untill the 10.5x-up arive its defualt 10x for everyone

Is it that the Athlon 64 doesn't like high fsb because the PCI and AGP is not locked?

I thought VIA is working on a solution to lock the bus.

[macci]

Manoj, have you tested (checked with CPU-Z or WCPUID) that the multiplier settings actually work?

[STEvil]

I dunno.. 8.5x300 sounds pretty nice, and its not liek this would be the first time someone has built a TurboPLL...

[Manoj]

Originally posted by macci
Manoj, have you tested (checked with CPU-Z or WCPUID) that the multiplier settings actually work?

I did test a few (eg. 8x, 9x and 9.5x).

All worked. I check with WCPUID and CPU-Z.

By the way, is there a new version of WCPUID for Athlon64?

[saaya]

i thought cpu-z cant read the multis and fsbs of the a64s? or was that just with the fx?

the problem here is the chipset, not the cpu, thats why they were running their setups in async. nf3 boards get as high as 260 it seems, but thats with a couple of vmods and super cooling right mickey? i hope the next nf3 steppings will oc a lot better like the nf2 revisions.

[Manoj]

I thought the first nforce3 was designed for the Opteron.

May be it was not designed for overclocking.

I could be wrong in my thinking.

[saaya]

nf3 is for both afaik, 940 and 754... too bad it doesnt support 939s :/

[Manoj]

Originally posted by saaya
nf3 is for both afaik, 940 and 754... too bad it doesnt support 939s :/

I am told that the Socket 939 version will release in Jan 2004.

No need for Registered ECC.

[saaya]

well the a64 and opterons use an upgraded memory controller from the AMD 76x chipset wich supports both reg and normal memory, so the opterons and a64s both support normal ddr, the problem lies in the traces you need for the memory slots, you need short traces to get low latencies, for dual channel you need more traces than for single channel, so its not possible to get all the traces short enough to run cl2 in dual channel.

the new 939 boards will probably have one memory slot on the left and one on the right of the cpu socket or something like that, so they can get all the traces on the 4layer pcb and still keep them short for low latency.

cl2 with reg emmory is like cl3 with normal memeory right? since the traces are probably too long to get cl2 to work right, they have to run with cl3. but who would bu a performence setup that only runs cl3? so they use reg memory wich gives the chipset enough time to breathe and still makes it look as its running "cl2"

[Manoj]

Which ram would you recommend for the normal Athlon 64 3200+?

Corsair XMS 3500 is good?

Should I go for 1x 512megs or 2x 256megs or 2x 512megs?

[saaya]

id say 1x512mb seems like 2 sticks dont make a diference, at least not on nf3 boards.

no idear about what memory has nice timings and ocs high... my khx 3500 does 245dc 2-2-2-5 but its the old stuff with bh5, the new stuff has ch5 and doesnt do 2-2-2...

sorry, cant help you on that one.

[Manoj]

Originally posted by saaya
id say 1x512mb seems like 2 sticks dont make a diference, at least not on nf3 boards.

no idear about what memory has nice timings and ocs high... my khx 3500 does 245dc 2-2-2-5 but its the old stuff with bh5, the new stuff has ch5 and doesnt do 2-2-2...

sorry, cant help you on that one.

Do you think if I want to set AGP Aperature to 512megs then I should have 1GB of system memory?

That means 2x 512megs?

Or should I just get 1x 512megs or 2x 256megs and leave the AGP size to 256megs?

What do you think?

I have tried the Corsair XMS 3500 CS2 with Intel Canterwood and it did DDR 460 CL2,2,2,5

[saaya]

cool, then id get that memory... sounds nice!

about the aperture size... some still say they get higher scores with other settings but most people use 128 or 256 not matter how much system memory you have.

on my P3 and nf2 systems it didnt make any diference at all.

[Manoj]

I remember I had a small increase with 512megs AGP Aperature from 256megs with the nforce2.

Not sure now.