SPORE Released 5 Days Early In Australia - Already cracked

[Donnie27]

Yeah, those people that spent the last couple years working hard to get this game out got owned. Nice.

QFT!!!!!!

Some folks just don't like to admit to stealing. I know several Right-Wing Conservatives who will give all kinds of arguments on why their warezing isn't stealing. Of course they're for Law and Order LOL! One of them is a very very good friend of mine. Another buddy locally, posts here and he follows the same way of thinking.

[chunkylover77]

That comparison is completely wrong. A digital copy has no value in itself, especially if it was not done by the manufacturer. There is no physical object that it's being stolen, so if someone would have never bought the game yet they download it the producers don't loose anything maybe they gain a bit of fame. On the other hand some of the people that are downloading WOULD have bought the game, given no other choice. It's those people that they should be after and trying to convince them to buy the game.

You are dead wrong. A person takes the time to make a window just like a person takes the time to make a game. Stealing is stealing. A digital copy has a value. It's value is the cost of the game. Meaning if the cd/dvd of the game cost $50 then the digital copies value is $50. I've heard your argument before about digital copies having no value and it doesn't pass the bs test.

If you were a developer you would consider your game as having value. Would you go in to Wrights development studio and tell all the workers there that Spore has no value? If you spent years of your life developing a game and then before it's even released have it cracked would you not be pissed off? Intellectual property does have value. Sorry my thoughts are all jumbled but really my comparison is completely valid. If someone torrents this and plays it they are stealing. I don't care if they had an intention to buy the game or not. If they want to try the game that is what demo's are for.

As gamers we and moan about this copy protection and we say they are treating us like thieves. Well reading this thread I can see why. Cheering that a game has been cracked. If I was Wright I would pull this game from distribution and tell us gamers to go f yourselves. As John McClane would say "Adios MFers."

[chunkylover77]

Hey sometimes cracks are the only thing to get the game to play. I myself am having an issue with one of my games from EA... Crysis. I can not run the game without using an EXE crack since its complaining that I don't have the CD/DVD in the drive... well of course i don't, I got it from the EA Store. I mean come on. Having things cracked is good in certain cases for legit people so yes I'd applaud this because im sure people will have the same issue I had with any games from EA using there download manager.


As for the torrent posting, know someone at work that got it last night no issues. Said it started slow then went through the roof at downloading 400-500KB/s. He was surprised because as some said only a few seeders and thousands of leachers.


I understand the character creater of the game but what is the rest of the game like? Is it like a sim city type thing?

But that is another issue altogether. Hold companies accountable for their product. If you purchased a game with your hard earned money then you deserve a quality working product. I dont disagree with you on that.

[XSAlliN]

My 5 year old niece likes it, but she doesn't need the Full Game, the Demo Version is more then enough for her. Guess all Zuma fans will love this game.

[WoZZeR999]

I see piracy being a debate similar to politics, each person has their own views and is not willing to accept change. This thread could turn into 2 groups of people bickering over the nomenclature of what piracy is. Some say it is stealing, some say it is no-harm. Is there another topic that can be discussed about the early release like if the game is worth playing or not? The piracy fights are getting old...

[iddqd]

That doesn't matter. They are still stealing. If you owned a window shop and had a patent out on a really clever window design and some 12 year olds were constantly coming into your store and taking pictures of your windows to make their own DIY version (without paying you patent royalties!) what would you say? Would you just brush it off and say they wouldn't have bought my windows anyway?

fixed.

I'm just saying that copies that were pirated don't directly translate into copies that would have been purchased otherwise. Besides, piracy has been there all along and somehow, companies that make good games were (and still are) doing fine, so blaming the decline of PC gaming on piracy is silly (besides, piracy is almost as rampant in consoles, especially in the asian market). It's tantamount to Uwe Boll blaming poor sales of his latest abortion of a movie on bit torrent.

[Speederlander]

That comparison is completely wrong. A digital copy has no value in itself, especially if it was not done by the manufacturer. There is no physical object that it's being stolen, so if someone would have never bought the game yet they download it the producers don't loose anything maybe they gain a bit of fame. On the other hand some of the people that are downloading WOULD have bought the game, given no other choice. It's those people that they should be after and trying to convince them to buy the game.

If someone steals your identity, no PHYSICAL object is stolen. Is that ok? Is it acceptable as long as they don't pull credit cards in your name? After all, if you don't lose anything...

[Calmatory]

EA deserves this.

[krogen]

Besides, piracy has been there all along and somehow, companies that make good games were (and still are) doing fine, so blaming the decline of PC gaming on piracy is silly (besides, piracy is almost as rampant in consoles, especially in the asian market).

Tell me why then Iron Lore went down. Titan Quest was a really good RPG, sold quite a few copies, but the company still went down due to funding.

If I remember correctly, one of the developers behind Titan Quest said that if piracy wasn't as extensive on PC the future of the company would probably not be the same.

Or how about Interplay. (Not as recent) They made Fallout 1 & 2, Freespace 2, and Baldur's Gate... Probably one of the best games every published. The company still shut down due to funding.

[Speederlander]

No, that is completely different. Stealing involves the Loss of something. Stealing and piracy are different. When something is pirated, the original copy is still in tact and with it's original. Putting Piracy in terms of music, if some new artist came out with a song that I would listen to on the radio, but not want to hear often, then they cannot count me as a potential buyer. If I download that song, it's no loss to them because they would not have made money off of me in the first place. My download from them (or some other source) also cost them nothing.

Edit: Katanai beat me to it,

So if a Chinese company flat out started making Intel chips, using stolen IP, is it not really stealing since the original designs remain locked up at Intel headquarters? They didn't steal the hardware afterall, just the IP. And if they sell them much cheaper than Intel, Intel didn't really lose the money because those people would never have paid Intel prices anyway, right?

[Calmatory]

Or how about Interplay. (Not as recent) They made Fallout 1 & 2, Freespace 2, and Baldur's Gate... Probably one of the best games every published. The company still shut down due to funding.

Now go to gaming sites() and go ask how many of them play those games? No one. Why? Because they donät like them. Why? Because those games are something DIFFERENT than the games we have nowadays. If there is no blood, crimes, high speed runaways, polices and more violence and crimes with no intention, the game won't sell. People want to RELAX with games. Thus they want to turn on the console, sit on the couch and have some brainless fun. Interplays games won't bring it to them.

Oh, thats one of the reasons why Fallout 3 on PC will be a huge flop. Console port. Brainless fps shooting with some relation to old Fallouts. Not as "Oblivion with guns" as many predicted, but FAR from original Fallouts. Even Bethesda itself said that if you liked original Fallouts, it is very likely that Fallout 3 will be disappointment for you.

[Speederlander]

Hey look, what it comes down to is a lot of people feel that they are entitled to their free games, music and movies. Call it stealing or socialism or whatever you want, but after all the excuses, free digital stuff is nothing more than an entitlement for the millions of people that grab now and make excuses later. Heck, I respect the folks that just upfront say, "Yeah, I'm stealing it, so what?" At least they are honest about it and not making up reasons why it's "not really theft".

Sorry folks, the only people that get "owned" when games are pirated are people who like to play games, because the industry has no incentive to take risks or spend big bucks if they are going to get slammed in the end. Like I said before, any video game maker that makes anything other than on-line only games is foolish at this point.

[Speederlander]

QFT!!!!!!

Some folks just don't like to admit to stealing. I know several Right-Wing Conservatives who will give all kinds of arguments on why their warezing isn't stealing. Of course they're for Law and Order LOL! One of them is a very very good friend of mine. Another buddy locally, posts here and he follows the same way of thinking.

Just like people on welfare, as long as THEY benefit, don't criticize the mammary they are milking from.

[Papu]

SIMS 3 IN SPACE

for me? no thanks it looks like such a bad game....
and also the Crappy Drm.

tbh i hope it flops and will goes back to making stupid Sims games....

[Calmatory]

Hey look, what it comes down to is a lot of people feel that they are entitled to their free games, music and movies. Call it stealing or socialism or whatever you want, but after all the excuses, free digital stuff is nothing more than an entitlement for the millions of people that grab now and make excuses later. Heck, I respect the folks that just upfront say, "Yeah, I'm stealing it, so what?" At least they are honest about it and not making up reasons why it's "not really theft".

Sorry folks, the only people that get "owned" when games are pirated are people who like to play games, because the industry has no incentive to take risks or spend big bucks if they are going to get slammed in the end. Like I said before, any video game maker that makes anything other than on-line only games is foolish at this point.

Honestly, why should I pay for a console ported game? Game which has been made for masses, which I dislike. I could count 5 games which I really like, and which I have bought. Others I will pirate, no matter what. Single player games on PC are jokes. Have been for years, with some exceptions. Majority of the single player games I play are made for old consoles before PC gaming really existed, like SNES or Sega Genesis. Why? Because those games actually were good. They gave unique challenge, good gameplay and good music.

I miss challenge. Games nowadays are TOO EASY. You just grab the pad and run trough levels, nearly died but still you managed to pull it off! Wow! Another thing is music. Remember Doom or Duke Nukems? One Mist Fall? Nowadays games give a story, like movies and books do. They are disposable experiences. Old games have huge amounts of replaybility,something majority of games nowadays lack.

I am very happy there are exceptions! Also, $60 for a 10 hours long disposable storyline? I'll rather go watch TV.

Like everything which goes too far beyond, PC gaming market will fall. Indie devs will come to the playground. Right now they can't do much due to big publishers like EA and others own the whole industry.

[Speederlander]

Honestly, why should I pay for a console ported game?

Honestly, what makes you think you DESERVE anything for free just because it doesn't meet your high standards? You figure it's your job to punish game makers for making "bad" games by stealing their games? Wow, that's a sweet deal for you! You are serving the public good and you get to play games for free too.

[Calmatory]

Honestly, what makes you think you DESERVE anything for free just because it doesn't meet your high standards? You figure it's your job to punish game makers for making "bad" games by stealing their games? Wow, that's a sweet deal for you! You are serving the public good and you get to play games for free too.

I think I don't deserve them, as I don't pay for them, but that ain't stopping me from trying the games out twice a year. I am no hardcore gamer, except for two online games which I have paid for. Another one is shareware, and I have donated money. I do pay if I really see that the developer deserves my money. E.g. indie developer who has been working on a game for years, without an intention to make it for a living. Then there are these multi million companies which publish the same idea over and over again with little or no innovation at all. I'll rather give money for the poor instead of a millionaire.

Not always should one have a rewards for the hard work. No one pays me for the long walks I do every morning, because it benefits no one. Just as I don't think that manority of the games nowadays don't deserve my money because I don't benefit from them enough.

[Donnie27]

Just like people on welfare, as long as THEY benefit, don't criticize the mammary they are milking from.

You got it!

[Scubar]

This game is LAME, who is bored enough to make some stupid looking creature in a colorful world that looks like a 5 year old painted with crayons, this game blows IMO

Have you not heard of WoW ?????

The individuals that spend countless hours and money on that game do go down as the most pathetic lifeforms known to humanity.

[XS2K]

Downloaded it,reached the highest civ lvl and pre-ordered it even if it cost's ~50$ in my lovely country (which is quite low compared to other titles).
The level of replayability is huge in this game and I love it for that also it's a very nice game for notebook users.

[Donnie27]

SIMS 3 IN SPACE

for me? no thanks it looks like such a bad game....
and also the Crappy Drm.

tbh i hope it flops and will goes back to making stupid Sims games....

That's cool, if it sucks, don't buy it. If it stinks, don't steal it either. Down load the demo, if you like it buy it and then crack the DRM. Why would I down load, install and steal a game that sucks, that's crazy!

[Decami]

Wait people are saying this game is crap because they played creature creator? Isn't that a small part of this game?

yep, gotta couple friends with a closed minded opinion like that. Fact is they just didnt have creative minds, they used the parts in a boring obvious way. To be honest the game and the Creature creator do have a 3 year old look up front. But snap some parts here, rotate there, put a part oddly here, use a part in a way not intended there, and you have something that looks like it just came out of a freaking horror with movie that had an unlimited effects budget, ready to eat some freaking babies. Even more so the creature looks crazy when its Epiced and all massive in the game. Ill admit, I like the game cause I like creating things, but its got some issues, and some shallowness to it, and a kid feel. But an amazing idea, and def fun. Tribal is the best part of the game, everything else needs a little work. and ZOMG force AA or your doomed to look at jaggies that haunt you in your sleep.

Straight up, I torrent games as a demo cause demos are shallow retarded representations of games. Demos in the past have tricked me in 3 ways. 1 either its so little of the game that it doesnt interest me, but find out later the game is amazing from someone else. 2. Game has massive graphic errors and problems and/or glitches and I dont buy it and find out way later those things were fixed and the game is amazing, and 3. Game seems fun and full version turns out different and lame.

I remember playing Roller Coaster Tycoon demo and thinking, WOW this game blows huge. Then way down the road when it dropped in price i said screw it and bought it for something to play that was different and it was amazing, I bought the expansions and must have built 60 parks and god knows how many coasters. Graphics wise the game was lacking but still was attractive to look at and gameplay was off the charts, again i like creation games.

Have you not heard of WoW ?????

The individuals that spend countless hours and money on that game do go down as the most pathetic lifeforms known to humanity.

Im shure other people spend countless hours on other games as well, are they pathetic too, how is that any different? Or are you just one of those WOW haters that hates wow because its wow? Personally played and raided (where the game shines) for 3 years, havent played for 2 years cause i was just spending too much time on it and it was daunting on me, but i still respect the game, amazing game. Amazing, seems like the older this planet gets, the more closed minded individuals there are.

[GAR]

Have you not heard of WoW ?????

The individuals that spend countless hours and money on that game do go down as the most pathetic lifeforms known to humanity.

Dont get me started on WOW..... lol

[ABXG]

That's cool, if it sucks, don't buy it. If it stinks, don't steal it either. Down load the demo, if you like it buy it and then crack the DRM. Why would I down load, install and steal a game that sucks, that's crazy!

The thing with demos is that the devs will give you 20 minutes of the game that doesn't represent the game as a whole. You get a really awesome demo but than a ty game. So now you, the customer is out $50, and the game developer and publishers are rewarded for publishing a ty game.

My solution to this problem is to download the whole game and play it till I decide to buy it or pass it up. The thing is, I have downloaded 10 games and out of those 10 games I ended up buying none because all of them where (I completely get rid of the games when I am done demoing them). So now I have $500 in my pocket and there are a few less companies pushing out bad games (or games I do not like).

I am a gamer, and a university student. I don't have money to poor into games that are crap. So I will demo games and buy them if and only if they are good.

I also do the exact same thing with music and videos. I DL them, listen to them, and than buy the CD's/DVD's if I like the content.

[Papu]

yep, gotta couple friends with a closed minded opinion like that. Fact is they just didnt have creative minds, they used the parts in a boring obvious way. To be honest the game and the Creature creator do have a 3 year old look up front. But snap some parts here, rotate there, put a part oddly here, use a part in a way not intended there, and you have something that looks like it just came out of a freaking horror with movie that had an unlimited effects budget, ready to eat some freaking babies. Even more so the creature looks crazy when its Epiced and all massive in the game. Ill admit, I like the game cause I like creating things, but its got some issues, and some shallowness to it, and a kid feel. But an amazing idea, and def fun. Tribal is the best part of the game, everything else needs a little work. and ZOMG force AA or your doomed to look at jaggies that haunt you in your sleep.

Straight up, I torrent games as a demo cause demos are shallow retarded representations of games. Demos in the past have tricked me in 3 ways. 1 either its so little of the game that it doesnt interest me, but find out later the game is amazing from someone else. 2. Game has massive graphic errors and problems and/or glitches and I dont buy it and find out way later those things were fixed and the game is amazing, and 3. Game seems fun and full version turns out different and lame.

i tried the full version , all the way to unlocking the SPACE part , the most fun was the bit at the start , great , but that didnt last long , anyway , its basically stolen concept from flow ,which has hours or that kind of progression evolution thing.
I dont get why so many Ideas jammed together makes for such an appealing game ? i think it's trying to be everything and failing , the Child aspect to the game is just off putting , as with wow and sims , a 16 version with some sex nudity, crime,Drugs,Dieseases , Proper society maybe....( knowing Ea that will come later with Spore Society, not to mention the idea of paying for add on packs for say body parts..ikea home pack anyone? Ea will milk this untill it falls over writhing..) but its all a bit naffy faffy to earn my hard earned cash.