Radeon and GeForce Share Work, PhysX Applications Win

[mascaras]

Radeon and GeForce Share Work, PhysX Applications Win

The functionality of CUDA and its implementation of GPU-accelerated PhysX processing has benefited many a GeForce user. Users of ATI accelerators lacking this incentive either use Ageia PhysX card or avoid it altogether. It has been verified by Hardspell that in an environment where Radeon accelerator(s) do graphics processing, a GeForce accelerator can be used standalone to process PhysX. Hardspell used a Radeon HD 3850 along with a GeForce 9600 GT on the same system with the display connected to the Radeon, though no form of multi-GPU graphics connection existed, the GeForce card partnered the Radeon well in processing physics, while the Radeon did graphics. Results of the oZone 3D FluidMark, a benchmark that includes routines to evaluate the machine's capability in processing physics, showed a greater than 350% increase in scores, showing that the GeForce accelerator is doing its job.



This was further proved with game testing of Unreal Tournament III. Provided are screen-shots from the game along with those of the FluidMark windows. The first window shows a score of 759 o3marks, while the second window in which GeForce processed PhysX, the score jumped to 2909 o3marks.



Hardspell

http://www.techpowerup.com/69792/Rad...tions_Win.html

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[informal]

Priceless if true.Especially the UT3 numbers!!!

[bowman]

Possible on XP, impossible on Vista unless Nvidia allow GeForce to work on CUDA applications without Nvidia display drivers.. And we all know that's not going to happen.

[vengance_01]

That is very cool. I may very well have a reason to move back to a full atx platform.

[Frananta]

ATi is enslaving nVidia?

[BrowncoatGR]

Possible on XP, impossible on Vista unless Nvidia allow GeForce to work on CUDA applications without Nvidia display drivers.. And we all know that's not going to happen.

Why not? They can only win from this.

[CBONE]

Why not? They can only win from this.

You would think, but if they did that, then it would be possible to get higher physics performance using old cheap NV card + new AMD card than new NV card + old NV card and they wouldn't let that happen.

[demonkevy666]

Possible on XP, impossible on Vista unless Nvidia allow GeForce to work on CUDA applications without Nvidia display drivers.. And we all know that's not going to happen.

I mentioned doing this when they released then phyX.

there has to be a way around it in vista.

Like renaming the driver phyX or something so it's not seen as a display driver.

The card still needs to be recognized as something.

[Donnie27]

[and 1] Oh Baby[/and 1]

That would be very cool indeed!

[bowman]

Why not? They can only win from this.

No. Currently people can upgrade to a newer Nvidia card and still find a use for their old card, on any chipset. It's an incentive to stay in the green camp. If they allowed this people would be able to upgrade to ATI and keep their old Nvidia card running PhysX and whatnot. Nvidia has never been a fan of letting go, even now when they've 'opened up' SLI they need to 'certify' the board designs before it's allowed to put the SLI stamp on there. We all know their attitude, if they can keep it on their table they will.

[DFI pit bull]

[and 1] Oh Baby[/and 1]

That would be very cool indeed!

Yes indeed, would be awesome if true. But I can't stop thinking it's a fake, been looking at the pics of both cards and they look odd, almost as if they are the same card but been altered in a paint program.

[Monkeywoman]

wheres the UT3 numbers? sill sick if true.

[demonkevy666]

Possible on XP, impossible on Vista unless Nvidia allow GeForce to work on CUDA applications without Nvidia display drivers.. And we all know that's not going to happen.

seem like the newer 8.07 need display driver 8.06 doesn't need them, how odd... -_-

[Xello]

Enable it in Vista and i'll be enthused

[saveus222]

ATi is enslaving nVidia?

now thats what i call ownage. hehehehe..

[bowman]

seem like the newer 8.07 need display driver 8.06 doesn't need them, how odd... -_-

8.06 8.07 what? I meant Nvidia drivers.

[Sr7]

You would think, but if they did that, then it would be possible to get higher physics performance using old cheap NV card + new AMD card than new NV card + old NV card and they wouldn't let that happen.

I think you're missing the point. The point is that to NVIDIA, GeForce for physics + AMD GPU for graphics is better than just AMD GPU for graphics alone.

Either way you're going to want to use the older card for the physics, so it works out the same.

[demonkevy666]

8.06 8.07 what? I meant Nvidia drivers.

Phyx comes with 177.41

I was taking about the phyx it's self alone with out that.

[Xello]

seem like the newer 8.07 need display driver 8.06 doesn't need them, how odd... -_-

But there's no way to download physx installer 8.06 seperately from the forceware package installation, right?

[demonkevy666]

But there's no way to download physx installer 8.06 seperately from the forceware package installation, right?

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Ageia-%7....html#download -_-

[003]

seem like the newer 8.07 need display driver 8.06 doesn't need them, how odd... -_-

Wait are you saying that you can use an nvidia card as a PhysX card with the PhysX system software 8.06.12 without having the nvidia display drivers installed?! Can somebody confirm this??

What about the latest 8.08.18 PhysX system software?

[Syn.]

But there's no way to download physx installer 8.06 seperately from the forceware package installation, right?

Whats this then?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_8.08.18_whql.html

Where did people get that idea from? PhysX drivers have always been provided in their own independent package. Nvidia only recently started bundling physx drivers with the graphics drivers.

wow .... that was excessive

I pushed the button.

[RaZz!]

Priceless if true.Especially the UT3 numbers!!!

ut3 numbers? where? i only did find some useless ultrasmall screenshots
no indication about fps and such.

too bad a 7800gt isn't capable of physx...

[003]

too bad a 7800gt isn't capable of physx...

I am curious, if someone would mod an inf to support the 7800/7900, would it work? It worked back for the GeForce 8 cards that nvidia did not initially have physx support for.

[RaZz!]

I am curious, if someone would mod an inf to support the 7800/7900, would it work? It worked back for the GeForce 8 cards that nvidia did not initially have physx support for.

i think it'll never work on any card that's older than g80, because afaik cuda & co needs a unified shader architecture to work, which a 7800/7900 and any older gpu doesn't have.