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    Dual CPU mobo for nehalem from foxconn?

    Could u guys make an DP mobo for DP xeon nehalems if those cpus have OC capabilities for us dual socket fans in xs and other cpu bite crunching maniacs ?

    I'm certainly gonna get set of 2 nehalem xeons, mobo for them and couple gigs of ddr3 pretty soon after their release...
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    mhhhh dual socket ocing is quite tricky... let me check into that with our engineers ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    mhhhh dual socket ocing is quite tricky... let me check into that with our engineers ok?
    Ok thx.
    Far as i know the upcoming X58 chipset supports Dual prosessor option.

    After the skulltrail publishemt Dual cpu comps won't be that rare as they used to be in normal desktop use... Just good OCing mobo needed

    Hopefully this generation of DP xeons uses regular DDR3 and not DDR3 ECC or DDR3 FB-DIMM, would be much cheaper and they won't limit fsb like DDR2 FB-DIMM did.

    E: After little wikipedia reading i found this out :P

    Gainestown is the codename for DP nehalem Xeons, they are Quads with HT (4 physical cores, 8threads at same time), they use LGA1366 socket, supports DDR3 in triplechannel, TPD is 130W/chip and their relase is at Q3 2008.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture)
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    Dual socket? I smelled this thread a mile away..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Dual socket? I smelled this thread a mile away..
    Sure u did :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Dual socket? I smelled this thread a mile away..
    i was surprised you didnt start a thread about this yourself about 2 motnhs ago or so

    solid, the xeons will use ddr3 ecc, but no more fbdimm, at least as far as i know.
    and x58 is essentially a server chipset, so yeah, its built for multi cpu configs.
    but overclocking a single nehalem cpu is already quite tricky, ocing several in tandem will be quite a challange... but as i said, ill check if we can do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    i was surprised you didnt start a thread about this yourself about 2 motnhs ago or so

    solid, the xeons will use ddr3 ecc, but no more fbdimm, at least as far as i know.
    and x58 is essentially a server chipset, so yeah, its built for multi cpu configs.
    but overclocking a single nehalem cpu is already quite tricky, ocing several in tandem will be quite a challange... but as i said, ill check if we can do it
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    Very interesting indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    Should have made a seaburg board so we dont have to fight with asus for bioses that work lol
    Hehe yea
    I'll wait info is this project possible and is the dual gainestown overclocking possible.

    DDR3-1333 ECC should be enought fast for anything and cheap at gainestown release
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    I never considered that FoxxConn would do a dualie so I didn't ask.
    who do you think is building all the server boards for the big guys like dell?

    about the pc thing, yeah, ive heard similar stories so many times...
    the best was at cebit last year tho, enermax and some other company both build plexi glass boxes with running systems inside, without ANY holes for air moving whatsoever

    so on the second day they were busy drilling loads of holes into the plexi glass boxes

    i checked, and we can def do it... but if itll be ocable is another thing... :/
    you guys should be able to shut down ecc btw, which should give a small perf boost actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    who do you think is building all the server boards for the big guys like dell?

    about the pc thing, yeah, ive heard similar stories so many times...
    the best was at cebit last year tho, enermax and some other company both build plexi glass boxes with running systems inside, without ANY holes for air moving whatsoever

    so on the second day they were busy drilling loads of holes into the plexi glass boxes

    i checked, and we can def do it... but if itll be ocable is another thing... :/
    you guys should be able to shut down ecc btw, which should give a small perf boost actually
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    who do you think is building all the server boards for the big guys like dell?

    about the pc thing, yeah, ive heard similar stories so many times...
    the best was at cebit last year tho, enermax and some other company both build plexi glass boxes with running systems inside, without ANY holes for air moving whatsoever

    so on the second day they were busy drilling loads of holes into the plexi glass boxes

    i checked, and we can def do it... but if itll be ocable is another thing... :/
    you guys should be able to shut down ecc btw, which should give a small perf boost actually
    can we get 8phase digital (or more) for each cpu, and multi phase high volting power on the ram
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    can we get 8phase digital (or more) for each cpu, and multi phase high volting power on the ram
    Own 16 Phase digital for both Cpu and 4phase for ram
    Now we're talkin :p

    If the OCing is possible, don't for christ sake leave the vcore and other voltage controll too low
    2.3vcore should be enought
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    who do you think is building all the server boards for the big guys like dell?

    about the pc thing, yeah, ive heard similar stories so many times...
    the best was at cebit last year tho, enermax and some other company both build plexi glass boxes with running systems inside, without ANY holes for air moving whatsoever

    so on the second day they were busy drilling loads of holes into the plexi glass boxes

    i checked, and we can def do it... but if itll be ocable is another thing... :/
    you guys should be able to shut down ecc btw, which should give a small perf boost actually
    ahh, remember, I don't look at Dell's that often..
    Now what I'd like to see in a dual is vcore and vdimm adjustments in the bios to 1.6 on the vcore and 2.3 on the vdimm
    Then a board with 8 phase power minimum, 2 banks of 6 dimm slots,onboard vid, and most important, spacing between the cpu sockets that will allow the use of top HS's.
    If the cpu sockets are right next to one another anyone that tries to use something like a TRUE is screwed.
    That's what would work for me but to make it also something that would sell to the workstation crowd( a very tough sell to those people as they are devouted SM and Tyan buyers) is adding 2-ver2.0 PCI-e X16 slots, a pci-e X8 slot , and then last a pci 32 or a PCI-X slot.
    Yes, PCI-X may be "old" but trust me, in that crowd it is still big.
    now when you build this biatch send one here and don't forget the 2-3200EE's and the 6-1 gig sticks of DDR3-1333(or 1600) ECC memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0lid View Post
    Own 16 Phase digital for both Cpu and 4phase for ram
    Now we're talkin :p

    If the OCing is possible, don't for christ sake leave the vcore and other voltage controll too low
    2.3vcore should be enought
    it uses 3 channel ram so u would need 3 or 6 phase per set, so thats 32phase digital cpu and 12phase ram for what u are suggesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    ahh, remember, I don't look at Dell's that often..
    Now what I'd like to see in a dual is vcore and vdimm adjustments in the bios to 2.1 on the vcore and 2.8 on the vdimm
    Then a board with 8 phase power minimum, 2 banks of 6 dimm slots,onboard vid, and most important, spacing between the cpu sockets that will allow the use of top HS's, LN2 pots and SS evaps.
    If the cpu sockets are right next to one another anyone that tries to use something like a TRUE is screwed.
    That's what would work for me but to make it also something that would sell to the workstation crowd( a very tough sell to those people as they are devouted SM and Tyan buyers) is adding 3-ver2.0 PCI-e X16 slots, a pci-e X8 slot , and then last a pci 32 or a PCI-X slot.
    Yes, PCI-X may be "old" but trust me, in that crowd it is still big.
    now when you build this biatch send ones here and to s0lid and don't forget the 2-3200EE's and the 6-1 gig sticks of DDR3-1333(or 1600) ECC memory.
    We'll provide the rest..
    Corrected it a bit
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    Foxconn will make one, but for another company (Intel).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Foxconn made some self branded Nehalem DP boards as well, due to how successful the Quantum Force brand has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0lid View Post
    Corrected it a bit
    I'd recommend to sell this board as enthusiast board
    I think they'd run into an issue with Intel as Intel will be making a SkullTrail II based on Nehalem.
    possible that Foxxconn will be making it for them I'd guess.
    Lets see, dual Gainstown at 4000+..on air..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    I think they'd run into an issue with Intel as Intel will be making a SkullTrail II based on Nehalem.
    possible that Foxxconn will be making it for them I'd guess.
    Lets see, dual Gainstown at 4000+..on air..
    Yup, Permawood..
    Permawood?
    Well I think the main difference would be just ST2 has SLI and Foxconns one don't and price ofc
    I don't see any problems with this anyways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0lid View Post
    Permawood?
    Well I think the main difference would be just ST2 has SLI and Foxconns one don't and price ofc
    I don't see any problems with this anyways...
    4500+ with SS Mmm :ROFL:
    Permawood= wood+permanent..
    Yes, you may be right..Keep it a simple board and Intel should have no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Permawood= wood+permanent..
    Yes, you may be right..Keep it a simple board and Intel should have no issues.
    I don't still get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0lid View Post
    I don't still get it
    HMM, how to explain this.
    Over here the expression "wood" means that a certain part of the male anatomy has enlarged due to large amounts of blood being directed there.
    This state usually occurs just before procreation..
    Have I know explained this in a politically correct manner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    HMM, how to explain this.
    Over here the expression "wood" means that a certain part of the male anatomy has enlarged due to large amounts of blood being directed there.
    This state usually occurs just before procreation..
    Have I know explained this in a politically correct manner?
    Now i got it
    Didn't get that because haven't heard that wood word were used that way
    Sry for the fuzz
    You use IRC and Crunch in Xs WCG team? Join #xs.wcg @ Quakenet
    [22:53:09] [@Jaco-XS] i'm gonna overclock this damn box!
    Ze gear:
    Main rig: W3520 + 12GB ddr3 + Gigabyte X58A-UD3R rev2.0! + HD7970 + HD6350 DMS59 + HX520 + 2x X25-E 32gig R0 + Bunch of HDDs.
    ESXI: Dell C6100 XS23-TY3 Node - 1x L5630 + 24GB ECC REG + Brocade 1020 10GbE
    ZFS Server: Supermicro 826E1 + Supermicro X8DAH+-F + 1x L5630 + 24GB ECC REG + 10x 3TB HDDs + Brocade 1020 10GbE
    Lappy!: Lenovo Thinkpad W500: T9600 + 8GB + FireGL v5700 + 128GB Samsung 830 + 320GB 2.5" in ze dvd slot + 1920x1200 @ 15.4"


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