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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss331 View Post
    Niiiice run OC Nub

    Thank you Hoss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Nub View Post
    Thank you Hoss.

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    KRich, Thank you. I honestly thought I sucked at this for a long time. Could not get stable at over 4.35ghz on my other chip. This chip made it seem easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss331 View Post
    I still think your temps are to high and not letting it pass. How much memory are you selecting for your IBT runs? If I remember right, you said your vid is 1.225? Heres a 20 pass run on my xeon (1.225 vid) with max mem at 4.4 and ram 1:1. Its late so I didnt have time to play with the voltages but I can probably go lower on some, in particular mch if I ran it at cas 5 and PL 9 instead. Ambient was 25c and temps came up to high 60s.



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    thanks for your help!
    i just made mistake and mistake and mistake, the vid is 1.2125

    i am thinking of the temp problem too, core get 8x~90 and motherboard get 9x degree lol, although the room temp is 32 but i really dont know what the hell is going on , thinking to buy a ek supreme lt waterblock, the motherboard temp seems to follow the core temp? i just see it raise and drop with my cpu

    forget the ibt a moment, would temperature cause a fatal error : final results was XXXXXX, expected XXXXXXX in prime95?

    because i usually see people get rounding error rather than this, i google this but not getting much useful help.

    if the temp really is a problem, damn, i dont know what to do, this wc system(w cpu loop only) is already a big deal to me. i tried to run my ram at 1001 and passes two memtest so shouldnt be a problem? my g-skill 4gb is rated 1000 also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek0309hk View Post
    thanks for your help!
    i just made mistake and mistake and mistake, the vid is 1.2125

    i am thinking of the temp problem too, core get 8x~90 and motherboard get 9x degree lol, although the room temp is 32 but i really dont know what the hell is going on , thinking to buy a ek supreme lt waterblock, the motherboard temp seems to follow the core temp? i just see it raise and drop with my cpu

    forget the ibt a moment, would temperature cause a fatal error : final results was XXXXXX, expected XXXXXXX in prime95?
    For the Q9650 exhaustive testing has demonstrated that any temps above 65oC WILL cause fatal errors in Prime95 or IBT, therefore is useless to use those programs to test stability if you can't keep the CPU cooler then that.

    This may not apply to ALL the Q9650 but I would say at least 75% of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jor3lBR View Post
    For the Q9650 exhaustive testing has demonstrated that any temps above 65oC WILL cause fatal errors in Prime95 or IBT, therefore is useless to use those programs to test stability if you can't keep the CPU cooler then that.

    This may not apply to ALL the Q9650 but I would say at least 75% of them.
    Correct Jor in my case applies perfect if CPU sensor (not cores) hits from 75 to 77C (meaning cores on 67 to 71) and stays mostly on that temps, tests will fail 99% of the times. If CPU sensor keeps under 75C and some times hit more, but mostly on 69 to 73C tests will run perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jor3lBR View Post
    For the Q9650 exhaustive testing has demonstrated that any temps above 65oC WILL cause fatal errors in Prime95 or IBT, therefore is useless to use those programs to test stability if you can't keep the CPU cooler then that.

    This may not apply to ALL the Q9650 but I would say at least 75% of them.
    omg.. what can i do then?

    i dont know where is the problem in my wc system

    at stock speed and default setting, the cpu wont get over 50 degree under water at full load, and usually get 35 at idle

    i dont know why when i raise it to above 4ghz and above 1.3v, the temp at full load go crazy, at idle is about 45~55 depends on fsb and voltage, but at full load just go 69, 7x, 8x, and even 90, damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek0309hk View Post
    omg.. what can i do then?

    i dont know where is the problem in my wc system

    at stock speed and default setting, the cpu wont get over 50 degree under water at full load, and usually get 35 at idle

    i dont know why when i raise it to above 4ghz and above 1.3v, the temp at full load go crazy, at idle is about 45~55 depends on fsb and voltage, but at full load just go 69, 7x, 8x, and even 90, damn
    You've got a low VID chip which can tend to run hotter than high VID. As you've also got high ambient temperatures, there is only so much that water cooling can do.

    Wish you lots of luck and hope some fine tuning will help you - Perhaps post in the Liquid Cooling forum to see if you can get some tips on any improvements that could be made with your setup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    where are you guys getting the C batches from?has anyone gotten
    a C batch from newegg?im thinking of getting a quad again,but i might
    just get a X3380 @3.16.
    I dont think there going to end up releasing the 3380 so if you want one youll need to find an es.


    Quote Originally Posted by derek0309hk View Post
    omg.. what can i do then?

    i dont know where is the problem in my wc system

    at stock speed and default setting, the cpu wont get over 50 degree under water at full load, and usually get 35 at idle

    i dont know why when i raise it to above 4ghz and above 1.3v, the temp at full load go crazy, at idle is about 45~55 depends on fsb and voltage, but at full load just go 69, 7x, 8x, and even 90, damn
    Its not necessarily a problem with your water setup but more so with your ambient temps being 30C+. Water setups can pull alot of heat out but with ambients like that they can only do so much. IBT is one of the hottest running tests so you should probably forget about using it until you get your cooling under control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Nub View Post
    KRich, Thank you. I honestly thought I sucked at this for a long time. Could not get stable at over 4.35ghz on my other chip. This chip made it seem easy.
    Well done - Here is to you and your chip
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss331 View Post
    I dont think there going to end up releasing the 3380 so if you want one youll need to find an es.




    Its not necessarily a problem with your water setup but more so with your ambient temps being 30C+. Water setups can pull alot of heat out but with ambients like that they can only do so much. IBT is one of the hottest running tests so you should probably forget about using it until you get your cooling under control.
    but even i use prime95 w/o ac , still get 75 ~ 79 most likely

    w/ ac, still slightly above 70, which may lead to the fatal error?

    i really want to get 4.4 for 24/7 use... damn , why it is so hot in this city

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek0309hk View Post
    but even i use prime95 w/o ac , still get 75 ~ 79 most likely

    w/ ac, still slightly above 70, which may lead to the fatal error?

    i really want to get 4.4 for 24/7 use... damn , why it is so hot in this city
    Maybe try some HyperPi, SuperPi, Folding, or some other programs to test stability as Jor suggested. I doubt getting a different water block will help by much. The air blowing through my rad when Priming is 16c (tested using a dmm), with 30c+ambient there is no way I could Prime. If you can manage to Prime at 70-75c with your high ambient room temps I would say your water cooling is doing a good job.

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    Having a hard time getting stable at 489x9. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are my current settings. Boots fine, but blue screens at soon as I start prime. System specs in sig.
    Thanks

    Q9650 L836B361 1.225 VID
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Nub View Post
    Maybe try some HyperPi, SuperPi, Folding, or some other programs to test stability as Jor suggested. I doubt getting a different water block will help by much. The air blowing through my rad when Priming is 16c (tested using a dmm), with 30c+ambient there is no way I could Prime. If you can manage to Prime at 70-75c with your high ambient room temps I would say your water cooling is doing a good job.
    i will report more when i change the block, thanks for your help, really

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFastForYa View Post
    Having a hard time getting stable at 489x9. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are my current settings. Boots fine, but blue screens at soon as I start prime. System specs in sig.
    Thanks

    may i know your room temp

    looks like i have a 90% similar wc system to yours, except the block

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek0309hk View Post
    i will report more when i change the block, thanks for your help, really

    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derek0309hk View Post
    may i know your room temp

    looks like i have a 90% similar wc system to yours, except the block

    Room temp is 21C or 70F
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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFastForYa View Post
    Room temp is 21C or 70F
    so my wc system seems really having a problem

    when i get room temp at 25~26, i get 45~48 on core at idle at 4.4@1.4125v in bios

    and not even have to mention full load, what is your temp under prime95 or ibt?

    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooFastForYa View Post
    Having a hard time getting stable at 489x9. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are my current settings. Boots fine, but blue screens at soon as I start prime. System specs in sig.
    Thanks
    If you have 9600s, are you wanting to run them at cas 4 1:1, and have you checked if thats even stable for your ram? My board undervolts vdimm, so 1.94 bios is really 1.90, yours may not and only need to be 1.90 bios.

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    C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
    CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
    CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
    Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

    Mine idle at 25C, third core gets stuck at 34.
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    um...just noticed there is no "cpu temp" in my everest 5.02.1750, and my mb couldnt be recognized too, my mb is p45-ud3p v1.6

    would this be a problem meaning any faulty hw or it just doesnt matter? thanks!


    just found there is only 1 guy having the same problem as me from google, looks like the motherboard temp is the cpu temp and the aux temp is the motherboard temp

    so it shouldnt be a problem now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss331 View Post
    If you have 9600s, are you wanting to run them at cas 4 1:1, and have you checked if thats even stable for your ram? My board undervolts vdimm, so 1.94 bios is really 1.90, yours may not and only need to be 1.90 bios.

    Start with this,
    Code:
    ******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
     
    Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ]
    CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9        ]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0    ]
    CPU Frequency 4.4GHz............................[ 489 x 9.0]
     
    ******Clock Chip Control******
     
    CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 489      ]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100      ]
    C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
     
    ******Advanced Clock Control******
     
    CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv   ]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv   ]
    CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ]
    MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ] or 50ps
     
    ******DRAM Performance Control******
     
    Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
    (G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333      ]
    System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40B    ]
    Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1174     ]
    DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ]
     
    CAS Latency Time................................[ 5       ]
    tRCD............................................[ 5       ]
    tRP.............................................[ 5       ]
    tRAS............................................[ 15      ]
     
    ******Advanced Timing Control******
     
    tRRD[3].........................................[ 3       ] you settings may be different
    tWTR[3].........................................[ 3       ]
    tWR[6]..........................................[ 6       ]
    tRFC[54]........................................[ 54      ]
    tRTP[3].........................................[ 3       ]
    Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ 2T      ]
     
    ******Channel A Timing Settings******     
     
    Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 8       ]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Channel A Driving Settings****** 
     
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200    ]
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
     
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Channel B Timing Settings******     
     
    Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 8       ]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
     
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200    ]
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
     
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Motherboard Voltage Control******
     
    Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
    CPU Vcore         [ 1.15    ]...................[ 1.4125  ]
    CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.300   ]
    CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.500   ]
    CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.848   ]
     
    MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.360   ]
    MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.863   ]
    MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
    ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500   ]
    ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.100   ]
     
    DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 1.800   ]
    DRAM Termination  [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
    Channel A Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
    Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto   ]
    
    ******Advanced BIOS Features******
     
    Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
    No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
    CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
    C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
    C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
    CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
    CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
    Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

    Mine idle at 25C, third core gets stuck at 34.
    hoss you always nice help to everyone here

    i notice that you use Drive Strength Profile..........................[1200] i never use it what's the benefit of it ?

    Cheers
    Sergio
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  22. #2322
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    I was wondering myself about the Drive Strength profile and what it does......Maybe loosens/tightens some sub timings is my guess.

    Also, I just got a nice chip and cant wait to push it. 1.16v Small FFT/Blend stable at stock (VID 1.225). 1.28v at 4.05Ghz fully stable, and Super Pi benchable at 4.608Ghz 1.4v (CPUz load for all). Havent tweaked that high yet.

  23. #2323
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    Quote Originally Posted by andressergio View Post
    hoss you always nice help to everyone here

    i notice that you use Drive Strength Profile..........................[1200] i never use it what's the benefit of it ?

    Cheers
    Sergio
    It must change some sub timings, I normally run at 1250 and the 1066 profile will not boot up or at least not on reasonable voltages. 1200 will boot up fine on 1066 but I usually just run which ever profile is the closest to the ram speed im using.
    Q9650

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  24. #2324
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    OK, I've been lurking here for quite some time. I'm trying to get my chip to 4.4 or 4.5 prime stable.

    I really just need the opinions of you guys to tel me whether or not it's a lost cause.

    I got an ep45-ud3r to replace my p5q dlx a few days ago. I am a bit happier with the new board over the old one. I had an ep45 on my other pc with an e8500 and have been very happy with it.

    The rig in question...

    I'm running the f9 bios
    cooling is fuzion v2 + mcr320 + mcp355 (petra's top) + 3x yate loon med

    OS is vista 32

    My memory is 2x2gb ocz reaper hpc 8500
    My q9650 is a 1.2500 VID

    here's where I am right now... The settings below have been priming small fft for 1.5 hours or so without errors


    Code:
    ******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
     
    Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ]
    CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9        ]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0    ]
    CPU Frequency 4.4GHz............................[ 473 x 9.0]
     
    ******Clock Chip Control******
     
    CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 473      ]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100      ]
    C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
     
    ******Advanced Clock Control******
     
    CPU Clock Drive.................................[ stock?   ]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ stock?   ]
    CPU Clock Skew..................................[ stock?     ]
    MCH Clock Skew..................................[ stock?     ] 
     
    ******DRAM Performance Control******
     
    Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
    (G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ can't remember     ]
    System Memory Multipler.........................[ can't remember   ]
    Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 946     ]
    DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ]
     
    CAS Latency Time................................[ 5       ]
    tRCD............................................[ 5       ]
    tRP.............................................[ 5       ]
    tRAS............................................[ 15      ]
     
    ******Advanced Timing Control******
     
    tRRD[3].........................................[ auto    ]
    tWTR[3].........................................[ auto    ]
    tWR[6]..........................................[ auto    ]
    tRFC[54]........................................[ auto    ]
    tRTP[3].........................................[ auto     ]
    Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ 2T      ]
     
    ******Channel A Timing Settings******     
     
    Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ auto       ]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Channel A Driving Settings****** I don't think my bios has this menu?
     
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200    ]
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
     
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Channel B Timing Settings******     
     
    Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 8       ]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
     
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
     
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200    ]
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
     
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
     
    ******Motherboard Voltage Control******
     
    Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
    CPU Vcore         [ 1.15    ]...................[ 1.3875  ]
    CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.300   ]
    CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.500   ]
    CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.823   ]
     
    MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.300   ]
    MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.863   ]
    MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.900    ]
    ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500   ]
    ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.100   ]
     
    DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 2.100   ]
    DRAM Termination  [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.900    ]
    Channel A Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.900    ]
    Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.900   ]
    
    ******Advanced BIOS Features******
     
    Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
    No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
    CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
    C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
    C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
    CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
    CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
    Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
    Always runs of prime 95 small fft for stability.

    Prior to these settings I have successfully gotten stability at the following:

    UD3R
    4200 (467x9) @ 1.328v core (cpuz)

    P5Q
    4000 (445x9) @ 1.3000v core (cpuz)
    4100 (456x9) @ 1.3125v core (cpuz)
    4200 (467x9) @ 1.3560v core (cpuz)
    4250 (473X9) @ 1.36875v core (cpuz)

    besides that, where are you guys getting the pl8 or pl9 option in your bios? I haven't seen that anywhere.

    preemptive thanks...

    and nice clocks btw guys. I hope I can get close.

    I'll be familiar here, at least until I get stable near my goal.

  25. #2325
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    Hoss, tried that template. Wouldn't even boot with 1.8 vdimm. Upped it to 1.9 and booted. Failed prime after 2 test. Temps look good however. Here is a screenshot. Three of my cores don't read under 37 as you can see. One that does read 27C at idle.

    Q9650 L836B361 1.225 VID
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Rev 1.1 f10e
    GTZ, MCR320, MCP355 w/XSPC Res Top
    G.Skill 9600 PIs
    XFX HD4890 CrossFire
    Corsair HX850
    Mountain Mods Pinnacle 24

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