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    ? about Feser Base Corrosion Blocker 50ml

    Does anyone use it, and is it any good? Is PT Nuke a better product?

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    Different kinds of product entirely.

    PT Nuke prevents algae/other life from growing in your loop, while the Feser stuff prevent metal corrosion. Beyond that, I don't know what the Feser stuff is able to accomplish - if it's just supposed to be a little helping hand, or if it's actually supposed to protect against galvanic corrosion.
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    ya know, honestly, my simple and perhaps a dumb ass way of thinking...

    drink water...
    drink yogurt...

    which flows better?

    as i've worked with some of my previous WC'd builds for my brothers... who where anxious to get "red Coolant" "Purple Coolant" and such... honestly Distilled with Nuke and colored tubes is the way i'd go in the future...

    just my thoughts...
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    Call me slow but....the reason for Fester's acid water now becomes abundantly clear.





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    I wouldn't go near Feser and I would be careful of both. Both are terribly acidic and can be downright dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterlogged View Post


    Call me slow but....the reason for Fester's acid water now becomes abundantly clear.





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    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    I wouldn't go near Feser and I would be careful of both. Both are terribly acidic and can be downright dangerous.
    Have there been documented cases of properly used PT Nuke causing problems? I can't recall stumbling across any issues that didn't happen because some numbnut dumped the whole bottle into their loop. Me, I've always used the 1 drop/litre ratio, never come across any suggestion of developing problems when I flush out my loop a month or two later.
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    I'm still kinda new, went water early this year but have drained/refilled many times and removed/added parts. I did have a bit of copper discoleration in my IONE after 5 months, came off with ketchup easy enuff, but never ever any buildup or issues. I use Tygon silver and a XPSC res (100mm one), which is always crystal clear inside. And I have never ever read of any issues with Distilled and PT Nuke.

    Fesser on the other hand............... or any other bling product........
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    Quote Originally Posted by MpG View Post
    Have there been documented cases of properly used PT Nuke causing problems? I can't recall stumbling across any issues that didn't happen because some numbnut dumped the whole bottle into their loop. Me, I've always used the 1 drop/litre ratio, never come across any suggestion of developing problems when I flush out my loop a month or two later.
    You do pay attention to the ratio. Do you use baking soda?

    Darwin's theory has a habit of occurring from time to time. There are quite a lot of "numbnuts" around. One in particular asked if five drops is enough, and whether he should use ten drops.

    I flush my loop monthly as well. I use nothing.

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    I don't know.

    All I know is I've used a combination of some sort of ethelene glycol like Hydrx or Pentosin along with two drop of PTnuke in Walmart distilled water and I've never had any sort of growth or corrsion issues. I like my PTnuke, I even throw in a drop in my testing loops when they are up for a couple of days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    I wouldn't go near Feser and I would be careful of both. Both are terribly acidic and can be downright dangerous.
    Should it be ok to use the Feser Corrosion blocker instead of vinegar (as the sticky guide explains) to clean uit your rads & blocks? If afterwards you thoroughly flush it out with demin. water ofcourse....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjelaw View Post
    Should it be ok to use the Feser Corrosion blocker instead of vinegar (as the sticky guide explains) to clean uit your rads & blocks? If afterwards you thoroughly flush it out with demin. water ofcourse....

    The Stickies are not updated! Whatever you do, DO NOT USE VINEGAR FOR ANYTHING EVER.... vinegar will damage your equipment! The only exception is a tiny amount of tomato ketchup to shine the surface of your blocks, but you won't have to worry about that for the first year.

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    I don't see how the Feser Corrosion blocker product can clean your radiator, but no comments there.

    If you are using a Thermochill or Swiftech or Black Ice radiator, all you need to use to clean your radiators are hot water. The flux will be cleaned with just hot water flushes. The water cannot be boiling, but must be hot.

    If you are more adventurous, you can use automotive radiator flush. You should be able to find that at any auto parts store. Again, this isn't necessary.

    I leave it to you whether you want the hot water to be fancy distilled/deionized water. I don't use fancy water for cleaning, but many people do. However, for the final rinse, you must use room temperature distilled/deionized water.

    The blocks are easier to clean. Just place them in a container with warm distilled/deionized water and gently clean them. Make sure the water is not hot enough to damage the rubber seals and gaskets.

    Cleaning should be a simple process. Just do it. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    The water cannot be boiling, but must be hot.
    Wait what the heck, why? Thats another thing People always recommend to do, and atleast a third here have most likely done due to it being recommended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaskar View Post
    Wait what the heck, why? Thats another thing People always recommend to do, and atleast a third here have most likely done due to it being recommended.
    You are talking about vinegar or hot water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    You are talking about vinegar or hot water?
    The boiling water part.
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    Well, that part isn't science, I would admit that. There's nothing magical about 100 celcius. If you are pouring boiling water, it also not as though its any safer at 95C or 90C.

    I will admit its only a personal preference because boiling water splatters more easily.

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    IanY thanks for the advice, I allways just went along with what the stickies said. I had just put the copper part of my supreme block into some vinegar, I came to my computer, hit F5 .... ran back to the kitchen, dumped everything into the sink and flushed with water maniacally, sort of.

    Should be no permanent damage I guess, thanks again. I think my block is clean will start on the rad now
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    Great! No damage to the block. There were guys who took the vinegar thing really serious. They left their blocks in for hours.. one guy for three days. You can only imagine the blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinghong1970 View Post
    i told you it's my dumbass way of thinking...

    ha ha ha!
    Well, My statement was more about Fester's water being an acid and the product in the title of this topic being used to "neutral" said water out.

    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    The Stickies are not updated! Whatever you do, DO NOT USE VINEGAR FOR ANYTHING EVER.... vinegar will damage your equipment! The only exception is a tiny amount of tomato ketchup to shine the surface of your blocks, but you won't have to worry about that for the first year.

    {Movieman or Vapor... please please get MaxxxRacer to change the vinegar section, or just delete that portion}

    I don't see how the Feser Corrosion blocker product can clean your radiator, but no comments there.

    If you are using a Thermochill or Swiftech or Black Ice radiator, all you need to use to clean your radiators are hot water. The flux will be cleaned with just hot water flushes. The water cannot be boiling, but must be hot.

    If you are more adventurous, you can use automotive radiator flush. You should be able to find that at any auto parts store. Again, this isn't necessary.

    I leave it to you whether you want the hot water to be fancy distilled/deionized water. I don't use fancy water for cleaning, but many people do. However, for the final rinse, you must use room temperature distilled/deionized water.

    The blocks are easier to clean. Just place them in a container with warm distilled/deionized water and gently clean them. Make sure the water is not hot enough to damage the rubber seals and gaskets.

    Cleaning should be a simple process. Just do it. Good luck.
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    While I agree with everything IanY has said in the above post, I can not agree enough with what's been highlighted. Please......Remove the vinegar! .....and while your at it, put "FTW" on the banned word list please.
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    Why is their liquid technically an acid? Is it their way to try to prevent growth by making the water a PH that nothing wants to grow in?
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    Its not just technically an acid. It has a pH of 2.0. That's almost catching up with sulphuric or hydrochloric acid. It kills everything in its path. Unfortunately, that includes the water block as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaskar View Post
    Why is their liquid technically an acid? Is it their way to try to prevent growth by making the water a PH that nothing wants to grow in?
    For that answer, you'll have to ask Fester. Their site specifically states
    Feser Aqua has to first of all passed through the reverse osmosis system, and shortly after this into the downstreamed De-Ionized system. The PH-Value is 2.0 – 3.0 and lies in the acid ph-range.
    Pffft, It's not even distilled.
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    I bet Tropicana orange juice doesn't have a pH of 2.0.

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    woah.. 110 calories per serving. Is there a Diet version?

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