vapochill ls+ E8500 = poor temp ??

[makaka]

Hi there ;
Today i got my ls working again .This is the denfoos 5.5 clx with R404A .
using E8500 @ 5000 mhz and 1.504 v (cpuz) Idle temp are -30 c speed fan or 227 c asus prob .
load temp under prime are 20 C according to both software
I have checked for bad contact 3 time the evaporator make a damn good contact with the cpu . i am using artic ceramic as thermal paste what is wrong ??.
Condenser temp is 47-50c , the compressor is also pretty hot . i have not checked the evaporator temp since i am using the vapochill without the card (it is broken).
Something wrong or the ls is damn poor
note the ls is stock and not modded . the cpu put around 160w in this configuration.

[Duniek]

if evap has good contact to CPU and you have poor temps and also compressor is very hot unit is undercharged

can you measure temp on suction line near compressor? 1-2cm near


PS your vapo ls 775 kit is shipped

[[XC] gomeler]

High condenser temps, is the stock panaflo dying or not ramped up to 100% fanspeed? If you can check and see if pushing more air through the condenser helps with the temperatures. A 5GHz E8500 doesn't dump a lot of heat, have you got a temp probe on the evap? You could potentially be getting funky temps from the sensors. Speedfan works fine with my QX9650 but my E8400 had temps all over the palce.

[[XC] 2long4u]

Sounds like it needs to be retuned.

[makaka]

if evap has good contact to CPU and you have poor temps and also compressor is very hot unit is undercharged

can you measure temp on suction line near compressor? 1-2cm near


PS your vapo ls 775 kit is shipped

Thanks hope to get it as soon as possible .
This point with 0 w load is hot 43-45c (according to my poor multimeter sensor)(hot touch over 4-5 second , look similar to the compressor temp)
note room temp 30c

High condenser temps, is the stock panaflo dying or not ramped up to 100% fanspeed? If you can check and see if pushing more air through the condenser helps with the temperatures. A 5GHz E8500 doesn't dump a lot of heat, have you got a temp probe on the evap? You could potentially be getting funky temps from the sensors. Speedfan works fine with my QX9650 but my E8400 had temps all over the palce.

fan are runuing @ 100% since they are hooked directly to the psu . i have no sensor since the chill control card is broken .

Sounds like it needs to be retuned.

may be what do u suggest

[wdrzal]

Sounds like all the temps he posted so far are from software. So they are really worthless..........

[makaka]

not all temp . i am using a temperature sensor for the compressor temp and condenser . too bad this sensor do not show under -17 c . note the evaporator temp was equal or under-17c under load .since it always show -17c .

[[XC] 2long4u]

Start with high and low pressures. Sounds massively under charged.

[makaka]

Start with high and low pressures. Sounds massively under charged.

Thanks for reply .
What should be the temp (compressor temp) with 0w or 160w load . i am really tired from refelling each time either over charged or under charged .

[Duniek]

Thanks hope to get it as soon as possible .
This point with 0 w load is hot 43-45c (according to my poor multimeter sensor)(hot touch over 4-5 second , look similar to the compressor temp)
note room temp 30c

43*C

check under insualtion 10cm far from compressor
on good tuned unit this place should be frosty (below 0*C)

[makaka]

The evaporator is under -17 c but this part show 43 C , is it undercharged or over charged ?

[Duniek]

The evaporator is under -17 c but this part show 43 C , is it undercharged or over charged ?

undercharged

[makaka]

undercharged

Thanks for reply . is there any method to get the unit charged normally ??.
pressure with 0w load how much ?

[n00b 0f l337]

You cannot charge by pressure, it just doesn't work that way.

[makaka]

any idea how can i test it without load tester or computer .

[Duniek]

any idea how can i test it without load tester or computer .

put evap in hot (60-70*C water)

[makaka]

and what should i check them? witch temp

[wdrzal]

Makaka: you obviously (at this time)don't have the tools or the understanding to determine the problem or do the repair. Find someone who does........ posting temperatures alone are worthless.

Advice given on what you posted is a Guess at best.........

[firerx]

hey gomeler,
Were you ever able to get 5ghz on you QX9650? I've been trying , but get concerned about too much voltage. It you did, do you mind sharing was the voltage was?
thanks

[makaka]

QX9650???????? . i am running a E8500 (dual core ) . voltage was 1.5v

[firerx]

High condenser temps, is the stock panaflo dying or not ramped up to 100% fanspeed? If you can check and see if pushing more air through the condenser helps with the temperatures. A 5GHz E8500 doesn't dump a lot of heat, have you got a temp probe on the evap? You could potentially be getting funky temps from the sensors. Speedfan works fine with my QX9650 but my E8400 had temps all over the palce.

I was asking gomeler about his! LOL

[Duzter]

Thanks for reply .
What should be the temp (compressor temp) with 0w or 160w load . i am really tired from refelling each time either over charged or under charged .

Well, thats the drill when working with captube refrigeration systems. The captubes length is specific for a capacity of the evap and for the refrigeration charge, this means that your charge must be very precise. It could be 10 grams of overcharge/undercharge messing with ya.

[makaka]

Well today i was able to recharge the unit (paid 50 euros ) , as all members reported the unit was uncharged so i asked to recharge until getting the part shown in picture above frozen , now this part is frozen under load but my temp became worse and my cpu is not even stable @ previous frequency .
More help please