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    From The Tech Report review:



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    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    From The Tech Report review:



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    Grab one, and rant about microstutter?

    j/k.

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    omg, look at those Assassins Creed "unpatched" scores

    If a little render saving from DX 10.1 can give the RV770 gains like that, NVidia definitely has a reason to and snuff out 10.1 in any way they can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Grab one, and rant about microstutter?

    j/k.
    I'm against CF but eh, he wants FPS and here he has FPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miwo View Post
    omg, look at those Assassins Creed "unpatched" scores

    If a little render saving from DX 10.1 can give the RV770 gains like that, NVidia definitely has a reason to and snuff out 10.1 in any way they can

    Of course none of the reviews show GTX280 SLI for a fair comparison.

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    Nvidia has until August to enable SLI on Intel AND rethink their pricing, because the CF 4870 is going to turn their sales of both 260's (for SLI) and 280's to mush. What 2 years of waiting could not do to bring SLI to Intel chipsets, is now absolutely required or they will be forced to sell chips at a loss to get sales at all.

    The first adopters will always be there, but a few months of this competition and it will belong to ATI for this round. The 55nm 200 chip won't be fast enough and won't come soon enough to help NV.

    It's going to be funny to watch them eat humble pie, and all that while Larrabee moves in to finish off what's left...

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    Great review SKYMTL and the honesty I felt on the last page was refreshing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    Of course none of the reviews show GTX280 SLI for a fair comparison.
    600$ vs 649$ is a "fair" comparison IMO. If not unfair considering the extra 50$ you have to pay for a single 280.

    Anandtech shows it vs GTX 280 SLI anyway. The nvidia cards win in Crysis, Quakewars, Assasins Creed and Oblivion. The 4870's beat 2 x GTX280's in COD4, The witcher and Bioshock. For 1300$ the two GTX 280's should've wiped the floor with the ATI's in any game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriciU View Post
    600$ vs 649$ is a "fair" comparison IMO. If not unfair considering the extra 50$ you have to pay for a single 280.

    Anandtech shows it vs GTX 280 SLI anyway. The nvidia cards win in Crysis, Quakewars, Assasins Creed and Oblivion. The 4870's beat 2 x GTX280's in COD4, The witcher and Bioshock. For 1300$ the two GTX 280's should've wiped the floor with the ATI's in any game.
    Quad CS VS 2X Sli would be fair (price ratio).

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    Amazing performance from ATI's side.
    Now we just wait for quad CF and GTX280 will be completely blown from the market. (Of course if they manage to optimize their driver support)
    I think that Nvidia will be adjusting it's prices accordingly, otherwise I don't see them coming out with positive profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    Quad CS VS 2X Sli would be fair (price ratio).
    I think QUAD CF would give like 1fps :P It's horribly bugged. 2 work the best from what i've seen in Tweaktown's review with 4850's (quad/tri/dual) -> http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1475/
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    What an awesome card. ATI are FINALLY competitive again. But you have to wonder what games are left that can't run extremely well at high res (where you really don't need that much AA) other than crysis on any half decent graphics card these days. Does it really matter after 60fps??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriciU View Post
    600$ vs 649$ is a "fair" comparison IMO. If not unfair considering the extra 50$ you have to pay for a single 280.

    Anandtech shows it vs GTX 280 SLI anyway. The nvidia cards win in Crysis, Quakewars, Assasins Creed and Oblivion. The 4870's beat 2 x GTX280's in COD4, The witcher and Bioshock. For 1300$ the two GTX 280's should've wiped the floor with the ATI's in any game.
    Actually the only game it really wins in is Bioshock and CoD4 (by about 10 frames). In the witcher 4850CF wins by 1.1 frames which is within any margin of error.


    But then there is stuff like this where 4870 is just stomped:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    But then there is stuff like this where 4870 is just stomped:




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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Great - now where are these 1GB Vram cards, I want two

    oficialy till now there is only 512mb version anounced !




    btw: 4870 is great card no doubt!

    we must recognize that AMD/ATi done a great job with HD4000 séries


    anandtech review is very good !



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    HD4870

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    Reviews are great! I was really interested in seeing the CF results.

    Thanks guys


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    Is the 4870x2 still scheduled to be released next month?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    Of course none of the reviews show GTX280 SLI for a fair comparison.
    HD4870 CF = $600

    GTX 280 SLI = $1200 - $1300

    From every standpoint I can think of, that isn't a "fair comparison".

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    AMD wins single graphics card, Nvidia wins multi gpu

    9800gtx + seems to be faster than HD4870 in Sli/ Crossfire, but HD4870 is the faster single card.

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    no, not at all, xfire scales better than sli, just give the 4800 drivers some time, g92's been out for over half a year now, those drivers are mature already. Also I don't see nvidia winning the multi-gpu high end either, if ati does get the 4870x2 to act as a single gpu, then there's no chance of that, however if it comes down to quadfire vs gtx 280 sli, then that might be a different story since not many games support crossfireX/quad sli very well
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    Quote Originally Posted by y2kbos View Post
    AMD wins single graphics card, Nvidia wins multi gpu

    9800gtx + seems to be faster than HD4870 in Sli/ Crossfire, but HD4870 is the faster single card.
    OMG dude stop bashing ati, the benchs the 9800gtx+ sli won are like 3 and the rest ati wins by a very very healthy margin, and usually the ones the 9800gtx won are the ones were Cf doesnt work at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by y2kbos View Post
    AMD wins single graphics card, Nvidia wins multi gpu

    9800gtx + seems to be faster than HD4870 in Sli/ Crossfire, but HD4870 is the faster single card.
    Erm.. no.

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    I'll wait for the 1GB version for sure. I'm not buying a new GFX card that has actually less Vram than my "old" card, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    I'll wait for the 1GB version for sure. I'm not buying a new GFX card that has actually less Vram than my "old" card, lol.
    Isn't that the same as not upgrading from a P4 until the new CPUs have more Mhz?

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