Am I retarded or what.
So you recommend boards with a SB750 to OC well (or at least in AOD).
Then Devmonkey asks if you're sure because the SB750 board is better than 780a (I make out from this you actually said 780a board is better although you never named the 780a).
And then you confirm that the SB750 board is better, which you already said
Now did I miss like an invisible message here or
PS: Just now I thought Devmonkey might be about 780G chipset instead of nForce 780a? In that case I get the whole picture. RS780D is like... not a budget 780G/V chip but a high end chip. Just like RD790FX, but then with an IGP. That's why the RS780D is also named 790GX
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CPU:
-Intel Core i7 920 3841A522
--CPU: 4200Mhz| Vcore: +120mV| Uncore: 3200Mhz| VTT: +100mV| Turbo: On| HT: Off
---CPU block: EK Supreme Acetal| Radiator: TCF X-Changer 480mm
Motherboard:
-Foxconn Bloodrage P06
--Blck: 200Mhz| QPI: 3600Mhz
Graphics:
-Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2
--GPU: 750Mhz| GDDR: 900Mhz
RAM:
-3x 2GB Mushkin XP3-12800
--Mhz: 800Mhz| Vdimm: 1.65V| Timings: 7-8-7-20-1T
Storage:
-3Ware 9650SE-2LP RAID controller
--2x Western Digital 74GB Raptor RAID 0
PSU:
-Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W
OS:
-Windows Vista Business x64
ORDERED: Sapphire HD 5970 OC
LOOKING FOR: 2x G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD, Windows 7
SB750 seems to be the key, also GX NB holds some special place with BE overclocking.
Last edited by Tony; 06-17-2008 at 02:04 PM.
Got a problem with your OCZ product....?
Have a look over here
Tony AKA BigToe
Tuning PC's for speed...Run whats fast, not what you think is fast
FX-8350, Powercolor ATI R9 290X LCS, OCZ Vertex 4, Crosshair V Forumula-Z, AMD Radeon DDR3-2133 2x8Gb, Corsair HX1000W, Thermaltake Xaser VI, Xonar D2X, Water Cooling 140.3
Only what i have read on the net, seems they found some tweaks that helps overclocking and they seem to revolve around GX and the new SB, maybe HT was holding us back...who knows ?
Im looking forward to testing my 9850 with some of the new boards when I get a chance, the only issue for me is time at the moment though....to much to do
Last edited by Tony; 06-17-2008 at 02:08 PM.
Got a problem with your OCZ product....?
Have a look over here
Tony AKA BigToe
Tuning PC's for speed...Run whats fast, not what you think is fast
It's the :
Amd's ace/extra 6pins/magic something (mushrooms?)
I'll take a wild guess and say they've added "more" room for the HTT,and a better clockgen,
say it's not 200 anymore but 250 even thou it will stay at 200.
I am seeing all these crazy 3.4/3.5/3.7's overclocks then I look
at our little Phenom database and for 24/7 usage it's about 3.1 or so ?
Which (for me) is fine but what people are "hitting" and what the same people are running 24/7 is quite different.
An hour of AOD does not mean stable my friend, you will find it out for your self
(if you keep it on-no resets)
I think with Phenom stable would be:
half a day idling, then 8hours primem,idle another day,some aod,idle,some more stress, more idle and if in 1 week you have no reboots/bsd-STABLE
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just "came back" to me WISE stability,is the term, thank you KTE
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That new "CMOS something" window in the AOD 2.1.1. beta (thank you METRO.CL) where is it ?
Last edited by SocketMan; 06-17-2008 at 07:01 PM.
Any indication when these boards will be available? Particularly the one you are using.
*Cough*cherry picked processor
or did you buy it from a retailer?
everything is still shrouded in mysteries....
why all the mystery?, just come out with the frig-in' 750 chipset already, I don't see this really helping AMD, their real problem is selling to the masses, not catering to overclockers (but it is a good thing to see little tidbits, smidgens of what may or may not be right around the corner).....
out into the cruel world to earn some more $$$ to blow on a 750 MB whenever they become available....
laterzzz.....
Asrock 970 Extreme4, Vishera 8320 @4.6Ghz, 1.39v, 16 gig Gskill RipJaws X DDR3 2133 @2284, OCZ 700w, OCZ Vetex 4 256gb boot, ATI 6850, all on big air..
smoke and mirrors
w00t
First good signs of showing up in shops tbfh
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CPU:
-Intel Core i7 920 3841A522
--CPU: 4200Mhz| Vcore: +120mV| Uncore: 3200Mhz| VTT: +100mV| Turbo: On| HT: Off
---CPU block: EK Supreme Acetal| Radiator: TCF X-Changer 480mm
Motherboard:
-Foxconn Bloodrage P06
--Blck: 200Mhz| QPI: 3600Mhz
Graphics:
-Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2
--GPU: 750Mhz| GDDR: 900Mhz
RAM:
-3x 2GB Mushkin XP3-12800
--Mhz: 800Mhz| Vdimm: 1.65V| Timings: 7-8-7-20-1T
Storage:
-3Ware 9650SE-2LP RAID controller
--2x Western Digital 74GB Raptor RAID 0
PSU:
-Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W
OS:
-Windows Vista Business x64
ORDERED: Sapphire HD 5970 OC
LOOKING FOR: 2x G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD, Windows 7
Cmon people stop mixing the 750a/SB750/SB700/RD790/780a/780g/790gx/790fx/790fxb/770/3870/4870 did I miss anything
all together.......
too many 7's that's the problem maybe
Last edited by SocketMan; 06-18-2008 at 08:25 PM.
Man I hope these come out soon! Ive got a new build to start later in july and want a DFI board with SB750 and a 9850BE or 9950 (when released)
Phenom 9950BE @ 3.24Ghz| ASUS M3A78-T | ASUS 4870 | 4gb G.SKILL DDR2-1000 |Silverstone Strider 600w ST60F| XFI Xtremegamer | Seagate 7200.10 320gb | Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm 16mb | Samsung 206BW | MCP655 | MCR320 | Apogee | MCW60 | MM U2-UFO |
A64 3800+ X2 AM2 @3.2Ghz| Biostar TF560 A2+ | 2gb Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 | Sapphire 3870 512mb | Aircooled inside a White MM-UFO Horizon |
Current Phenom overclock
Max Phenom overclock
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CPU:
-Intel Core i7 920 3841A522
--CPU: 4200Mhz| Vcore: +120mV| Uncore: 3200Mhz| VTT: +100mV| Turbo: On| HT: Off
---CPU block: EK Supreme Acetal| Radiator: TCF X-Changer 480mm
Motherboard:
-Foxconn Bloodrage P06
--Blck: 200Mhz| QPI: 3600Mhz
Graphics:
-Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2
--GPU: 750Mhz| GDDR: 900Mhz
RAM:
-3x 2GB Mushkin XP3-12800
--Mhz: 800Mhz| Vdimm: 1.65V| Timings: 7-8-7-20-1T
Storage:
-3Ware 9650SE-2LP RAID controller
--2x Western Digital 74GB Raptor RAID 0
PSU:
-Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W
OS:
-Windows Vista Business x64
ORDERED: Sapphire HD 5970 OC
LOOKING FOR: 2x G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD, Windows 7
It might not even be a black edition. If it isn't, it'll be pretty useless to most of us.
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if time allows, I will try again on water cooling tomorrow
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CPU:
-Intel Core i7 920 3841A522
--CPU: 4200Mhz| Vcore: +120mV| Uncore: 3200Mhz| VTT: +100mV| Turbo: On| HT: Off
---CPU block: EK Supreme Acetal| Radiator: TCF X-Changer 480mm
Motherboard:
-Foxconn Bloodrage P06
--Blck: 200Mhz| QPI: 3600Mhz
Graphics:
-Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2
--GPU: 750Mhz| GDDR: 900Mhz
RAM:
-3x 2GB Mushkin XP3-12800
--Mhz: 800Mhz| Vdimm: 1.65V| Timings: 7-8-7-20-1T
Storage:
-3Ware 9650SE-2LP RAID controller
--2x Western Digital 74GB Raptor RAID 0
PSU:
-Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W
OS:
-Windows Vista Business x64
ORDERED: Sapphire HD 5970 OC
LOOKING FOR: 2x G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD, Windows 7
Synaptic Overflow
CPU:
-Intel Core i7 920 3841A522
--CPU: 4200Mhz| Vcore: +120mV| Uncore: 3200Mhz| VTT: +100mV| Turbo: On| HT: Off
---CPU block: EK Supreme Acetal| Radiator: TCF X-Changer 480mm
Motherboard:
-Foxconn Bloodrage P06
--Blck: 200Mhz| QPI: 3600Mhz
Graphics:
-Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2
--GPU: 750Mhz| GDDR: 900Mhz
RAM:
-3x 2GB Mushkin XP3-12800
--Mhz: 800Mhz| Vdimm: 1.65V| Timings: 7-8-7-20-1T
Storage:
-3Ware 9650SE-2LP RAID controller
--2x Western Digital 74GB Raptor RAID 0
PSU:
-Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W
OS:
-Windows Vista Business x64
ORDERED: Sapphire HD 5970 OC
LOOKING FOR: 2x G.Skill Falcon II 128GB SSD, Windows 7
Guys i don't know if anyone actually thought about this possibility,but here it goes:
Maybe,just maybe AMD will do the following 2 things(or 1 of the 2 things):
1) override the maximum current allowed for the cores by connecting the 7 pins of the AM2+ cpu to the SB750?Intriguing is the 140W prerequisite (apart from the obvious fact that OCed chip will draw more than 125W ).So what i was thinking is overriding the built-in maximum current limit for the cores and northbridge.It seems far fetched but not impossible.
2)remember that SB750 will have built-in PLL? Well,this way,when the certain 7 pins from the SB750 pins and AM2+ pins of the Phenom are directly connected (as the leaked PDF slides indicates), it should be far more efficient at syncing the clock signals than any other non-integrated PLL on any other motherboard for Phenom out there.You will have a shorter signal path and more direct link to the cpu's PPLs which could possibly mean a better OCing headroom with lower voltage.
Just a thought .
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