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    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    thats great news!so which one are you going to pick?if it was me i would go #3


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    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    all i want is a new unwarped,no spilled stuff, fully functioning maximusII formula. so i can enjoy it as much as every one else does.
    I have seen that stuff on a couple of brand new boards. I'm not sure what is it but I don' think it's insulating spray or coolant residue, I think it's something during the manufacturing process. I could be wrong though of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Well then you'd be wrong, got my email and I am offerd.....
    1.Maximus II Formula
    2.Striker II Formula
    3.Rampage Formula
    4.P5Q Premium

    Oh and I'm getting a token Asus T-Shirt as a sorry for the hassles.

    So as you can clearly see (altho it took 4ever) the squeaky wheel gets the greese.
    That's good to hear, I hope whatever you choose is a solid board. You have certainly been stuffed around.
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    cryptik, its definitely something spilled,after closer inspection of the top side you can see this stuff leaked down through the gaps of the memory slots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Well then you'd be wrong, got my email and I am offerd.....
    1.Maximus II Formula
    2.Striker II Formula
    3.Rampage Formula
    4.P5Q Premium

    Oh and I'm getting a token Asus T-Shirt as a sorry for the hassles.

    So as you can clearly see (altho it took 4ever) the squeaky wheel gets the greese.
    Wow, i am simply amazed that they are doing that for you.... I tried to get a 975X board after RMA'ing my P5N32-SLI 7 times, and was told "we dont offer upgrades"... Good for you man, what ya gonna get??
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    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    cryptik, its definitely something spilled,after closer inspection of the top side you can see this stuff leaked down through the gaps of the memory slots.
    That's really bad. I've seen light residue before, but if it's leaked down through the ram slots your lucky the board didn't fry you gear.

    How could they send you something like that? I would have though they would not even accept something in that condition back let alone send it out.
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    hi guys this is my result in testing max fsb on my mobo

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=466061

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    cpu@phase ss 1.2hp
    nb@liquid cooling ybris k5

    here some photo of my rig






    here more photo of my setup

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    I did not use SuperPi before on this rig.

    I am getting thus each time at loop 5 - on stock settings and also on 21h P95 blend and 10 IBT stable.

    Any body can tell me about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by al- View Post
    loften, I looked (googled) at numerous posts and although the 'vpu recovery error' has definite similarities to my video issue(s), it does not seem to quite fit, and it looks like the 4870 card has 'crash' problems, with different sets of symptoms, that are resolved in different ways. And also, just because one persons' 4870 has the same symptoms as anothers' 4870, doesn't mean that it can be 'fixed' the same way. I think, after trying many things, that I may have it resolved...I deleted everything ATI/CCC, booted into 'Safe-Mode', used 'Driver Sweeper', and re-installed CCC Suite v8.12 from the desktop (along with bumping-up my NB and Vcore). I noticed that prior to using 'Driver Sweeper', my default clock/memory and gpu clock/memory (GPU-Z) was 500/900:750/900, but now its 750/900:750/900, and GTA runs smooth as silk, not choppy like it was before...maybe ATI will pick-up the ball and straighten-out all the problems users are having with HD48XX's-I seriously thought this was just an issue for the maximus2formula bios (voltages), but it looks like it was 'drivers' too (keeping my fingers crossed)...
    didn't want to hijack but yeah keep a eye on it.. i thought it was suspisious as it sounded like the problems i was having with mine.. i have the older maximus and 3870 cards and for months i wondered why my board wasn't stable at any oc or even stock. first raid many hard drives later i put in a single without raid which allowed me to stay stable long enough to start testing things, then ram, then psu, after many days/ months of testing things i finally figured out that i was having vpu errors as the older drivers i was using wouldn't show vpu errors it would just bsod only gaming. the later drivers started showing the vpu errors and also the sound looped and i could see the errors instead of bsod.. i removed the card and borrowed a 8800gts from my bro to test and it wouldn't crash anymore. passed every test no problems at 3.6+ and played games without crashing.. i am still waiting on the ati drivers and or bios that will work with my 2 cards.. i have tried them all even modded ones, different power ram and oses.. still waiting for my fix. have to save up and get a different card to replace these 2 i guess.
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    do they use flux for soldering? could be dried up or burnt on flux..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beleno View Post
    hi guys this is my result in testing max fsb on my mobo

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=466061

    setup:
    cpu@phase ss 1.2hp
    nb@liquid cooling ybris k5

    here some photo of my rig

    here more photo of my setup
    Nice work! What was the vNB and any other critical settings for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    I did not use SuperPi before on this rig.

    I am getting thus each time at loop 5 - on stock settings and also on 21h P95 blend and 10 IBT stable.

    Any body can tell me about this

    Probably due to SPI not liking vista, try hyperpi and check the 'audio, solve incompatibility with vista' checkbox.
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    @cryptik, i never even tried this board.after i opened it and saw that it was warped and clearly used, i just started making calls to asus to rectify the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    I did not use SuperPi before on this rig.

    I am getting thus each time at loop 5 - on stock settings and also on 21h P95 blend and 10 IBT stable.

    Any body can tell me about this

    Right click select properties and run in XP compat and admin mode.

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    hi guys n gals.

    my question isnt for the ocing on this board, i have an ample oc from 2.4 to 3.6 on my q6600(air) and am slowly working on the memory as we speak. my problem is sound, where do we get drivers, the ones asus provide say my hardware isnt supported by the software and ends the install, i tried creative but cant find the card and googling doesnt seem to get me anywhere, just wondering if anyone has the same problems and may know of a solution...thanks in advance

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    I'm almost there guys! Unfortunally, an C1 stepping plus a fairly high VID isn't a very good combination...The fact I'm all on air doesn't help either
    I'll get it stable, though! Wish me luck ^^


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    Guys I need help!

    Can anyone give me a reason NOT to get the Striker II Formula?
    I havent had a NForce chipset since my A8N SLI Deluxe/FX-60 and would like to give it a go, unless there are issues with the board otherwise I'm getting a Rampage.
    Anyone know of issue wich would make this a no go???

    Would either run a Q6700 or a E8400, both are collecting dust on my desk.

    Thanks

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    positive Vdroop

    Is anyone else experiencing higher load Vcore than idle Vcore when Load Line Calibration is enabled? Or is this an specific issue with my board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musho View Post
    Is anyone else experiencing higher load Vcore than idle Vcore when Load Line Calibration is enabled? Or is this an specific issue with my board?
    No it's a common thing, mine will overvolt as well

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    Okay, I couldn't get my CPU stable at the previous Vcore, so I decided to up the Vcore one more notch It looks like I've got a new 24/7 setup! I'll switch to Watercooling in a few days, to make sure my chip won't die anytime soon



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Right click select properties and run in XP compat and admin mode.
    It is hyperPi and I cant run it in compatibility mode - it will not start at all. As admin did not help.

    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    Probably due to SPI not liking vista, try hyperpi and check the 'audio, solve incompatibility with vista' checkbox.
    It is hyper PI I am affriad and option for sound is checked.

    But basically if PI does not pass test the error message does not look like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Musho View Post
    Okay, I couldn't get my CPU stable at the previous Vcore, so I decided to up the Vcore one more notch It looks like I've got a new 24/7 setup! I'll switch to Watercooling in a few days, to make sure my chip won't die anytime soon
    Let it run for 12h Blend and for real stability 24h (and it still can be unstable in 3d)
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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post


    Let it run for 12h Blend and or real stability 24h (and it still can be unstable in 3d)
    I'll let it run blend tomorrow. It's still priming away small FFTs at the moment, and going strong

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    So I run 4 instances of Super PI and they passed no problem - so It looks like HyperPI does not want to cooperate with my sys - which is kind of crap as it is lot of hassle to run 4 instances and set affinities for each.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musho View Post
    I'll let it run blend tomorrow. It's still priming away small FFTs at the moment, and going strong
    3h of small FTT should be more then enough. Go for blend it will tell you is your vtt and vnb stable.

    This is decryption of errors - which I can confirm is working for me like a charm.

    1024 - increase VTT or vNB
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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    So I run 4 instances of Super PI and they passed no problem - so It looks like HyperPI does not want to cooperate with my sys - which is kind of crap as it is lot of hassle to run 4 instances and set affinities for each.



    3h of small FTT should be more then enough. Go for blend it will tell you is your vtt and vnb stable.

    This is decryption of errors - which I can confirm is working for me like a charm.

    1024 - increase VTT or vNB
    896 or 448 - vNB
    768, 512, 332 - VTT
    Thanks, that sounds really helpfull to try and pin down any stability issues that might arrive when I try blend. Is it possible to tell when the ram is the link causing the problems, though? Or should I run memtest first? I'm pushing my ram quite a bit too, it's running at 1140mhz, at PL8 at stronger, with static read control enabled

    Anyway, here's the result of the small FFT test I'm off to try the stability with some games, as I'm dieing to play now I'll run blend soon. I'll keep you guys updated.


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    need help OCing my new rig (Q9550)

    got an E0 Q9550 from ebuyer, and a maximus II formula, and watercooeld it.

    under OCCT my max FSB i can get to pass is 467, but game crash within seconds....

    these are my voltages:



    (btw temps under laod never go above 50 on any core)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Guys I need help!

    Can anyone give me a reason NOT to get the Striker II Formula?
    I havent had a NForce chipset since my A8N SLI Deluxe/FX-60 and would like to give it a go, unless there are issues with the board otherwise I'm getting a Rampage.
    Anyone know of issue wich would make this a no go???

    Would either run a Q6700 or a E8400, both are collecting dust on my desk.

    Thanks
    I wouldn't bother with Striker. Rampage is a better option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaffaaf27 View Post
    need help OCing my new rig (Q9550)

    got an E0 Q9550 from ebuyer, and a maximus II formula, and watercooeld it.

    under OCCT my max FSB i can get to pass is 467, but game crash within seconds....

    these are my voltages:



    (btw temps under laod never go above 50 on any core)
    Get those voltages off of auto! The maximum safe CPU PLL voltage is considered 1.6V. 1.7V is already quite extreme. Yours is at almost 1,8V Also, I wouldn't go over 1,45 VTT. You're getting close to this value, as you're already at 1,44v. I am using just 1,3v at 8,5x475fsb. Put your CPU and NB clock skews on normal (not auto!) and test if you gain any stability. Also try out (100ps delay on CPU with normal on NB) and (normal on CPU with 100ps delay on NB). Out of these 3 possible combinations, pick the most stable. Set your VTT to 1,4ish. You can back this voltage off later. vNB at 1,45 is indeed a good start, but you should try to get that one down later one, once you get your setup stable. Now you should SLOWLY increase your FSB. You shouldn't have to increase any voltages to get it stable. (you might need up to 1,45v Vcore to get 4ghz stable, though)

    Set your NB GTL reference voltage on auto and set CPU GTL reference voltage on auto on all 4 options. While you're working up on the FSB you'll notice cores failing in prime95. Take note of which cores are failing. If core 0 or 1 fail, you'll have to play with CPU GTL reference 0 and CPU GTL reference 2. If core 2 or 3 fail, you'll have to play with CPU GTL reference 1 and 3. Note: GTL reference numbers do NOT represent cores. 2 cores on the same die use the same GTL voltage. Both dies have 2 different GTL voltages. One for the address bus, and one for the data bus. For now, always keep GTL 0 and 2 the same. And keep GTL 1 and 3 the same value too. So you'll have to figure out 2 values. 1 value for both GTL 0 and 2. And one value for both GTL 1 and 3. You can finetune them seperately later. Getting cores stable with GTL is purely trial and error. Every single CPU responds differently to different GTLs, and even different boards have different amounts of vDrop on the GTL lanes. Just trying anything ranging from -70 to +70 till you get all cores stable again, and start moving up again on the FSB, till cores start to fail again. Then you have to tune GTLs again, etc etc

    Edit: Use small FFTs to test GTL reference stability in prime95.
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