ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[SiGfever]

I'm willing to go as high as 2.2 actual.
I had to run them on the high side for the Maximus X38 board so I know these CL5D's can do it.
If you have decent air flow and they dont get to hot I'm sure 2.2v is safe.
You could ask the G.SKill rep to be safe but I find him rather useless personally.

I have a Corsair Dominator fan on them. Plus the middle push/pull fan on my PA120.3 blows across them in my UFO.

[TouGe]

No, I have seen other people having problems on the p5q thread with the same combo. All my components were working on another motherboard. Everything is at stock, I tried with one dimm, also increased ram voltage. Memory is micron d9gkx.

why do you say p5q-d is a better performer? higher max fsb? higher cpu or ram overclock?

I just found it to be less picky when it comes to vtt/nb voltages than the M2F and memory bandwidth was slightly better with the P5Q-D, IMO. I'm not sure why you or others are having problems since mine was a total joy to work with. Have you tried Ket's BIOS's yet? He has a post in this section.

I have Mushkin XP2-8500 and GSkill 8500 the GSkill actually out perform Mushkin. I find them to be rather poor ram for the money. Alotta hype and no balls, kinda like AMD

Really? I loved my 4x1GB Mushkin PC2-8500 sticks. I haven't tried their 2Gig sticks yet but from what I remember Leeg had no complaints.

[nugzo]

I'm stuck at 4365mhz 485FSB. I'm pretty sure its a FSB issue not max CPU OC.
I dropped multi to 8 and left all settings the same and still couldnt get stable at 490.
Windows will freeze a few minutes after booting. I've tried upping vcore, NB, SB, FSBT, and PLL.
Also i tried transaction booster on auto. My NB and SB never go over 55c.
Here are my bios settings and at the end a ss of 8hrs stable at my highest OC.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Extreme Tweaker
AI Overclock Tuner:  Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting:  9.0
FSB Frequency:  487
CPU Clock Skew:  Auto	
North Bridge Clock Skew:  Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge:  Auto
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A1:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B1:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B2:  Auto


DRAM Timing Control:  Auto
CAS# Latency:  5
RAS# to CAS# Delay:  5
RAS# Precharge:  5
RAS# Activate Time:  15
RAS# to RAS# Delay:  3
Row Refresh Cycle Time:  52
Write Recovery Time:  6
Read to Precharge Time:  3

Read to Write Delay (S/D):  7
Write to Read Delay (S):  3
Write to Read Delay (D):  5
Read to Read Delay (S):  4
Read to Read Delay (D):  6
Write to Write Delay (S):  4
Write to Write Delay (D):  6

Write to Pre Delay:  14
Read to Pre Delay:  5
Pre to Pre Delay:  1
All Pre to ACT Delay:  6
All Pre to REF Delay:  6

DRAM Static Read Control:  Auto
DRAM Read Training:  Auto
MEM OC Charger:  Auto
AI Clock Twister:  Strong
Transaction Booster:  Manual
Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3:  Disabled

PCI-E Frequency:  101

CPU Voltage:  1.34575V 
CPU PLL Voltage:  1.55300V
FSBT:  1.35175V
DRAM Voltage:  2.11800V
North Bridge Voltage:  1.57700V
South Bridge Voltage 1.5:  1.55300V
South Bridge Voltage 1.1:  Auto

CPU GTL Reference 0:  Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1:  -50mV
CPU GTL Reference 2:  Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3:  -50mV
North Bridge GTL Reference:  Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage:  Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage:  Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference:  Auto

Load Line Calibration:  Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum:  Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum:  Disabled

[The Nemesis]

@nugzo

Just to see, raise PLL to or over 1.6v I ran into exact same issue @ 488FSB but If I set PLL to auto or 1.6+ it primed or over 2Hours. Of course I was too scared and stopped it though.

[Razor_Blade]

Here is a strange one: every third or forth time I put the computer to sleep, it will not come back from it. When I reboot, it tells me that I need to enter bios and fix things. When I get there, all of my settings are gone. This happens whither I am overclocked or not. Any ideas? Oh yeah, I have a q6600, 2x2 Gb G.skill pc 8000 ram, and a 3870 x2. This is my HTPC.

[elsupremo]

Please help me understand something. I see so many people being able to overclock quite nicely with very low vcore voltages. I even looked back at one of TouGe's posts where he was stable at 3.8Ghz with the same CPU as mine, and I followed it as closely as I was able considering that I have different RAM. I was able to boot into Windows at 3.8ghz with only 1.31v VCore. On my own, I have NEVER been able to actually get into windows at 4 Ghz under 1.5v. I know I'm doing something wrong and I don't understand the voltages.

My only goal is to get 4 ghz stable 24/7. I was close with bios 0802 (using very high vcore (1.525) and PLL (1.69v), but tonight I updated to 1307 and those same settings don't seem close anymore.

My G.Skill RAM are non-MicronD9, so they are not top of the line. I suspect RAM is playing a part in my troubles, and of course, the voltages. If someone could help me understand why if I give it enough vcore, I can make it work, but I'm overvolting like mad while other, more knowledgeable people, are getting the same speeds with WAY less volts -I would be so appreciative.

Ty Grnfinger. I really appreciate your time. I would not have touched 90% of those settings you had me change, as I'm a beginning-level overclocker.

Starting with the settings you gave me, I could not boot into Windows - it would reboot while loading Windows. I am not sure what the relationship is between vcore, PLL, and the GTL volts, so I basically was working a bit blind. I kept the GTL settings you gave me, since I didn't know what else to do with them, and just kept increasing vcore and PLL. I'm having trouble finding a way to boot into Windows and pass a 5 run IntelBurnTest without having high Vcore and PLL. Can you share some strategy about how what to do here, other than just boosting vcore to the stars?

[nugzo]

Please help me understand something. I see so many people being able to overclock quite nicely with very low vcore voltages. I even looked back at one of TouGe's posts where he was stable at 3.8Ghz with the same CPU as mine, and I followed it as closely as I was able considering that I have different RAM. I was able to boot into Windows at 3.8ghz with only 1.31v VCore. On my own, I have NEVER been able to actually get into windows at 4 Ghz under 1.5v. I know I'm doing something wrong and I don't understand the voltages.

My only goal is to get 4 ghz stable 24/7. I was close with bios 0802 (using very high vcore (1.525) and PLL (1.69v), but tonight I updated to 1307 and those same settings don't seem close anymore.

My G.Skill RAM are non-MicronD9, so they are not top of the line. I suspect RAM is playing a part in my troubles, and of course, the voltages. If someone could help me understand why if I give it enough vcore, I can make it work, but I'm overvolting like mad while other, more knowledgeable people, are getting the same speeds with WAY less volts -I would be so appreciative.

What CPU, have u messed with GTL's? post all bios settings like mine above. u can copy it and change values to yours.

[nugzo]

@nugzo

Just to see, raise PLL to or over 1.6v I ran into exact same issue @ 488FSB but If I set PLL to auto or 1.6+ it primed or over 2Hours. Of course I was too scared and stopped it though.

Pretty sure i tried 1.6+ but i'll try again now. I just ran 4 passes of memtest all tests at 500x8 so i don't think its my ram. but 500x8 i cant get to desktop. I get windows load screens but right before desktop the screen stays black. Monitor light is on so its still gettin signal just no desktop.

[nugzo]

I tried upping pll to 1.7 and nb to 1.6 and taking out 4gb ram, same thing. Gonna try older bios now.


Edit: tried 0907 no difference. I'm in windows now at 490x8 but as soon i reached desktop the sidebar errored out. so it should freeze any time.

[elsupremo]

What CPU, have u messed with GTL's? post all bios settings like mine above. u can copy it and change values to yours.

I have the QX9650.
2 GB DDR2800 Gskill, NON Micron D9
4870 X2
Areca RAID
Win XP 32bit

My original post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1057

Grnfinger's reply:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1059

You can see my results with his settings here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1162

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information: 

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay:  Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto







3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto


PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.525
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (usually goes to 1.69)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.31
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.31
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51325
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11325

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto









CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled 

[CryptiK]

@ Nugzo, I should have been more specific when I said keep it under 65*C, I meant using Realtemp, which is ~ 8-10*C higher than the temp shown by asus probe.

@cryptik, check this out . all i did was disable LLC and set 1.4vcore in bios,changed fsb from 445 to 456 and its sill priming fine. before i couldnt get prime any higher than 4050.

Nice work, perhaps LLC was contributing to your instability. What vcore were you at under load with LLC enabled?

[nugzo]

@ Nugzo, I should have been more specific when I said keep it under 65*C, I meant using Realtemp, which is ~ 8-10*C higher than the temp shown by asus probe.

I'm using realtemp. When did you say that?

[TouGe]

I have the QX9650.
2 GB DDR2800 Gskill, NON Micron D9
4870 X2
Areca RAID
Win XP 32bit

My original post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1057

Grnfinger's reply:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1059

You can see my results with his settings here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1162

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information: 

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay:  Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto







3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto


PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.525
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (usually goes to 1.69)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.31
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.31
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51325
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11325

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto









CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled 

First, you need to adjust your GTL's, 1 & 3 for sure and possibly 0 & 2. There is a sticky in this section that explains hows to do this for the M2F. Also your PLL is too high (keep it under 1.60V if possible) and you shouldn't need >1.5V vcore w/ LLC enabled, what are your CPU temps (idle/load)?. Unless you are under some serious water that has to be pretty toasty. You also need to get rid of all those auto settings as well.

The only time I ran a high FSB was when I did 8x450MHz using the 266 strap and a Performance Level 8 w/ Ai clock twister set to Strong but that was using a P5Q-D--I don't remember all the settings.

I'd just work on getting your FSB stable @ 450MHz with a 7 multi (w/ Vcore @ 1.26 LLC enabled, PLL: 1.51325V, FSBT: ?, NBV: ?)and once you get it Prime stable for 2 hours just start bumping the multi up 1/2 steps. You need to learn how your chip reacts to changing PLL, vtt, vcore, and GTL's. Just throwing a bunch of voltage at it will only make your OC frustrating and less satisfying. There's a sweet spot there somewhere just take your time and you will find it.

[radaja]

@cryptik. 1.39 in bios under load was 1.37. now i can run IBT and temps stay around 60 -65c,cause underkoad volts are much lower.

[angkies]

mine :



E8600 Q820A599
Maximus II Formula 0701 bios
Cell Shock PC8000 C4 2gb kit
Olympia 700W
TRUX Black with Zalman 12cm Silent Fan

[CryptiK]

I'm using realtemp. When did you say that?

A couple of pages ago, perhaps it was not directed at you. Everyone's definition of safe temps differs, whatever you're comfortable with really.

@cryptik. 1.39 in bios under load was 1.37. now i can run IBT and temps stay around 60 -65c,cause underkoad volts are much lower.

Nice, so with LLC enabled and 1.37v load you were not stable @ 4050, but now without LLC and 1.34v load you are stable at 4100? Interesting.

mine :


E8600 Q820A599
Maximus II Formula 0701 bios
Cell Shock PC8000 C4 2gb kit
Olympia 700W
TRUX Black with Zalman 12cm Silent Fan

Very nice clock for the voltage, what is the max FSB you can hit with that cpu using 6x multi on air with a safe voltage? I'm curious as to how this board handles higher FSB speeds and I'm unsure if it my CPU or the board that is holding me back as I can't get over 570 FSB.

[angkies]

i can hit FSB600 on air cooling

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=425808

but not stable when i run orthos blend tes

i will update my result on FSB585 on blend orthos 1h, wish me luck dude

sorry my english not to good

[CryptiK]

600 FSB, nice one. Your cpu may need a little more vcore, also maybe a slight bump in vNB, but it should be doable. BTW your english is fine.

[RealTelstar]

Hey folks,
I'm considering this board for my htpc, with a Q9550 (slightly oc).

My questions is:
1) it is stable with this cpu? If so, which bios? I dont want to see a bsod with lenses.
2) The extra sata ports can be used for a dvd and the boot drive? I need all 6 intel ports for my storage.

[nugzo]

I can pass 8+ hours of prime small fft and overnight memtest but cant run blend without errors immediately after starting. Any suggestions? My settings are a few posts up/

[RealTelstar]

2) The extra sata ports can be used for a dvd and the boot drive? I need all 6 intel ports for my storage.

From a review on newegg:
The second SATA controler (two black head) does not support CD drives, only HDD, so to connect a CD you have you use either PATA or one of the 6 Intel SATA ports. Plan was to boot to one of the two, CD drive on the other, and use the 6 for a hardware RAID, but looks like a 3rd party PCI-E controller will be the option.

Looks like I either put the dvd on the one intel port, sacrifying it or I have to opt for another board. Which is a pity, i love my rampage formula and everything here is very similar (but with better quad support).

[nugzo]

This board seems to tax my memory harder than the nforce platform. wanting to go 12:10 multi instead of 1:1. What memory (8gb 2x2x2x2) would you recommend for this board/chipset? I have this now and was thinking of getting this. Thanks for the help.

[Grnfinger]

Try setting Clock Skew to 300ps it will help to get the ram stable
Also relax the timing a tad and it should settle down.

[d3885u]

@angkies...
Nice result...come on try to push more your FSB...I'm still waiting for your another great result...especially 600+ FSB...

[Hansfragger]

Hello everybody. I finished assembling my rig and am running @4.27Ghz, and am very appreciative of all the time people have spent on this thread. My goal is 5Ghzbut I will settle for the max of this board which will probably be the limiting component.
I did have a question - I haven't found a solution to stopping the clock speed throttling. When I run CPU-Z, it shows my multi at 6 and my Core Speed as 2550, but my multi is set at 10 and my Core Speed is 4250(I can see it flipping back and forth on CPU-Z). I thought it might be ACPI and set it to disabled in Bios, but it wouldn't boot, so I had to re-enable it. I see everyone who posts cpu-z screens has their top cpu speed showing so I must be missing something. Any ideas?

Thanks