ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[SiGfever]

Nice SiG. Is this the top fsb u can achieve?

Thanks Pal, No I have had it higher but not 24/7 tested. I redid my GTL's and I can do this with 1.36v on this "C0". Some further tweaking should give me more, I just need to find the time. This is WCG "BOINC" 24/7 stable.

I bumped it up a little...

[jesperme]

Nice Fsb some people got here to bad my board will not even post at 440fsb

[humeyboy]

boy, you do not know that with only one slot of ram go up more? I am with air


640 FSB AIR WITH TWO RAM http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528182

Well done , lets leave the old Single Module in Single Channel Mode trick to get higher FSB for the old NF2 days.

[screwtech02]

I aggree with Humeyboy... When i see some benchmarks with a 24/7 rig, fully loaded, quad, 8gb, 2 vid cards, 4 or more harddrives, ect, that can do anywhere near or above 500fsb without sub-zero, nuclear powered cooling... Then i will say "good job", "i'm impressed"...

Most of the "extreme bench's" are done with stuff the average guy, doesnt have, nor has the "license" for...

Not bashing anyone, just my ......

Need to see some more PCI vid cards too.... Those are "hella bad" in a "top end", "not enclosed in a case" rig....

[edo]

I aggree with Humeyboy... When i see some benchmarks with a 24/7 rig, fully loaded, quad, 8gb, 2 vid cards, 4 or more harddrives, ect, that can do anywhere near or above 500fsb without sub-zero, nuclear powered cooling... Then i will say "good job", "i'm impressed"...

Most of the "extreme bench's" are done with stuff the average guy, doesnt have, nor has the "license" for...

Not bashing anyone, just my ......

Need to see some more PCI vid cards too.... Those are "hella bad" in a "top end", "not enclosed in a case" rig....

here we go : 500 fsb on pc in sign

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528628

[screwtech02]

here we go : 500 fsb on pc in sign

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528628

Dude, thats what i've been talkin about.....

ALOT more realistic.... Good job man....

[humeyboy]

here we go : 500 fsb on pc in sign

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528628

[CryptiK]

boy, you do not know that with only one slot of ram go up more? I am with air


640 FSB AIR WITH TWO RAM http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528182

Brilliant, you are going very well indeed.

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I got a response from a helpful person at Asus who chased up the Phase-pull in issue for me.

" I checked the Pull-in issue with relative department for you.

The option Pull-In of CHA PH1~4(Pull-In the first data phase of Channel A) is used to decide at which phase the FSB aligns with the memory.

Because there is a ratio problem between FSB and RAM(memory).

Usually, after enabling Pull-In of CHA/B PH1, there will be a 0.3 percent increase in Everest read performance test.

And the Sandra memory bandwidth will have about 0.38 percent increase."

Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I guess that's all it is, a very sight increase, almost immeasurable and well within repeat run variance. I have tried countless times with everest and more accurately SPI32M, and never found any increase at all from the phase pull-ins.

[Grnfinger]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

[Simonix]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

[CryptiK]

New PB ram clock done. I managed 672 MHz CL5.

Settings:

vNB = 1.35v
vdimm = 2.40v
PL = 10
NB DDR2 Ref = +37.5mv
DDR2 CH A/B Ref = +12.5mv

[Celcius]

Nice FSB's

[529th]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

+1

I'm done with their shat. I feel like I've been AIG'd by buying their products the past 5 out of the last 8-9 yrs.

AIG'd = AIG is asking for money bailouts (e.g. 33 billion bail-out) from the US government and giving it to their top executives as bonuses.... well i'm not that mad at asus but that's the last i'll buy their product until I see atleast 5 5-star ratings from their boards from respectable review sights.

RUN AND HIDE AIG

[GFORCE100]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

Like I stated above somewhere, it's about the little people and the big people.

Surface to say, if we were CEO's of an Asus big OEM who buys thousands if not millions of boards from them to build our PC's, notebooks, servers etc. and if we said hey we want these pull-ins working then you can be sure their reaction would be oh so different.

There are little fish and there are big fish. The only way for Asus to really pay attention is a) spread the word for folks to stop buying Asus boards, this would have to be large-scale, b) get the media involved to write a nice article/or do a video review on how Asus releases half-baked products.

If a company is small it usually listens to the tune of buyers making sure it delivers on what's expected. Large companies are rather only concerned with their pay checks, share options, retirement funds, keeping that nice office leather chair profoundly heated, buying yachts, checking out concierge services and so forth. Money gets to people's heads a lot of the time, once it does they feel to be kings and queens of this world, untouchable.

Do you really think Asus's CEO even knows they have a product called Maximus Formula II? You'd be surprised, though if you asked him about Sushi, he could tell you all the great places in Tapei.

Agreed though, it is pathetic how they treat enthusiasts.

[lha]

You guys know if this mobo supports setfsb program fully?

This far i have used ICS9LPRS918BKL

[529th]

Like I stated above somewhere, it's about the little people and the big people.

Surface to say, if we were CEO's of an Asus big OEM who buys thousands if not millions of boards from them to build our PC's, notebooks, servers etc. and if we said hey we want these pull-ins working then you can be sure their reaction would be oh so different.

There are little fish and there are big fish. The only way for Asus to really pay attention is a) spread the word for folks to stop buying Asus boards, this would have to be large-scale, b) get the media involved to write a nice article/or do a video review on how Asus releases half-baked products.

If a company is small it usually listens to the tune of buyers making sure it delivers on what's expected. Large companies are rather only concerned with their pay checks, share options, retirement funds, keeping that nice office leather chair profoundly heated, buying yachts, checking out concierge services and so forth. Money gets to people's heads a lot of the time, once it does they feel to be kings and queens of this world, untouchable.

Do you really think Asus's CEO even knows they have a product called Maximus Formula II? You'd be surprised, though if you asked him about Sushi, he could tell you all the great places in Tapei.

Agreed though, it is pathetic how they treat enthusiasts.

I'll tell you one place they'd listen NEW EGG 'customer reviews'

[okorop]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

learn how to write in english before posting in this forum....what do you mean by the frase you wrote?

[529th]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

rearrange these words please so that we may understand your question or statement and respond appropriately .

[Grnfinger]

Maybe we all could use normal font size, and there is no reason to insult anyone for there english

[SiGfever]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

I think that this gentleman is asking for a Windows 7 based program for overclocking the board like Abit had for the IP35 Pro MB "uGuru".

And everyone lets all please remember that this is a worldwide forum and not everyone in this world speaks English and nor should they have to.

[edo]

Dude, thats what i've been talkin about.....

ALOT more realistic.... Good job man....

thank you guys

anyway more than 500x8 i prefer this

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=529175

[humeyboy]

Funny I am from Scotland so we speak and write in real proper English unlike other countries but I can still fully understand the above peeps question with no difficulty what soever.

[GFORCE100]

I'll tell you one place they'd listen NEW EGG 'customer reviews'

Newegg is just a large retailer, of which there are many. Even if Newegg stopped selling Asus boards, Asus would just beef up contracts with the other players without so much as a slight hiccup. Just because lots of people buy the MIIF doesn't mean they all know what pull-ins are and even after finding it out and the fact they don't work be bothered to post a review about it.

Companies thrive on the disinformation of a vast chunk of potential buyers. You don't need an excellent product to sell, you just need an OK product and great marketing.

You can make a good product for the mainstream that's 80% fine with only 20% effort. If you want it to be 100% fine then to get that extra missing 20% you'll need to spend 80% more effort. Asus doesn't want to spend more money than necessary, no way, unless it's to pay bonuses to their top management.

[okorop]

I think that this gentleman is asking for a Windows 7 based program for overclocking the board like Abit had for the IP35 Pro MB "uGuru".

And everyone lets all please remember that this is a worldwide forum and not everyone in this world speaks English and nor should they have to.

now I understand
He is asking for a program like asus turbo v for this mobo....I don't think asus released something like turbo v for the previous mobo p45 and so on is not it?

[CryptiK]

I swapped to other BIOS chip using BIOS 1901 and 1:2 divider is working now. I took the cpuz SS then tried to run everest and it crashed unfortunately.

678 MHz CL5 @ 2.45v