ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[WhiteFireDragon]

the only memory divider that is stable seems to be 5:6, and my cheesy memory can't reach 1200mhz, so i'm not able to reach 500fsb. the 1:1 divider is never stable, even when the memory is underclocked. does anyone else have trouble with this or know how to get 500fsb on 1:1?

This is my first post on this forum, but I have been using this thread to build this machine (thanks Guys, your info helped a lot). Finally got everything running (purchased the mobo some time ago) and wanted to run a couple of my settings by the community and see what you guys think. The last time I overclocked a CPU was back in the slot 1 Celeron days..... My rig specs are below....

ZX672 . have you looked at simps guide to tune your mobo? you might be able to reduce your voltages or get higher clocks, although not much tuning is needed for dual cores.

[lha]

Ok the FSB problem solved = you have to give hell of lot vNB to get some fsb.

Another guestion, my mobo is bent pretty much, it was bent when i buyed from the shop so is this normal?

[andressergio]

Ok the FSB problem solved = you have to give hell of lot vNB to get some fsb.

Another guestion, my mobo is bent pretty much, it was bent when i buyed from the shop so is this normal?

I run my 2x2GB Gskill 1240Mhz PL7 on a QUAD an needs

vNB 1,45 ref +40
DRAM ref A/B +12,5
DRAM to NB ref -25

glad you solved
Cheers
Sergio

[radaja]

iha, that seems to be a common problem(bent,warped boards)ive had three now.very bad quality control at asus.two of my warped boards did not perform correctly because of this the other i sent back because the plain fact that is was warped.make sure you check that it works properly.

[IcemaN22]

Hi. I have experienced two times now that the hole computer freeze, and when I boot in bios I get message: Sata device port 3 failed/error, and then I can't enter the OS. To solve it, I have to shut down the system, reconnect the sata cable and then it's fine again. Strange problem, because in the weekend I had no problems in 30 hours straight. On port 3 I have one samsung hdd, somebody know what can be the cause? Im running AHCI mode.

[Starage]

Hello

What is a good voltage for the CPUPLL?
What would be a good FSB voltage that is safe?

I am using a Q6700 water cooler.

[Grnfinger]

1.60 PLL is max safe volts for that chip
1.40 FSBT is pretty safe, I'm unsure what the max value is but I ran a q6600 and a q6700 at 1.40 for 8 months at 450FSB and it did not suffer from the volts.

guys please chime in if I'm wrong on the volts

[ViViD]

Hi
I'm Never Care About Voltage For Example In This CPUZ Shot:



Valid Iink

PLL On 1.7 Volt CPU 1.7 FSBT On 1.6
I Can't Find Any Extreme Cooling Just With WaterCooling Take This FrQuency

[jason4207]

I realized my ram and possibly NB were giving me errors in linpack (I'm yet to isolate which), so after getting the system stable by bumping them both up 2 notches, I found I was able to lower my vcore to 1.240v @ 4.23GHz. The LCD poster reports the load vcore as 1.237v although cpuz reports 1.240v, I'm not sure which s correct. Although I doubt I'll be able to lower it more, I will do some more testing later.

CPU-Z is not accurate to 0.001v...only to 0.008v. Has to do w/ the number of bits used to represent the number. 1.237v is closer to 1.240 than 1.232, so CPU-Z has to round up.

the last time i tried esata, it just ruined my windows install.
do you have to plug it all in, then turn the power on?

also, will the speedinghdd ports handle 2 seperate drives not in any raid mode?
i wanna swap back to single drives instead of raid-0, but like the fact that its on a pcie lane rather than the useless pci bottlenecked bus.

The 'speedinghdd' is not a fast method to connect. Use Intel's own ICH10R for the best performance. It will also speed up boot process if you can turn off the Marvel controller. The speedinghdd is limited to ~120MB/s. Intel's ICH10R can go up to 750MB/s+. The ICH10R is not on the PCI bus.

Only use the Marvel if you need more ports, need esata, or need IDE. Otherwise its useless and just slows you down.


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I've had my M2F for a couple weeks now. Currently I have the multi at 6 and RAM 1:1 so I can focus on the FSB. Managed to get 490FSB large-fft stable for over an hour on my Q9550. Then I gave up and went back to 485 where I'm over 12hrs large-fft stable. Finally got to the last several pages of this thread and found Simps guide (Man, this is a long thread!!!). With new GTL info in hand and new confidence I'm trying to work on 490 again. I've literally tried almost 100 different CPU GTL setting combinations, but after reading Simps guide it seems a bit clearer to me, and I have a plan of attack now where before everything felt so random despite me trying to adjust things in a logical (what I thought was logical, anyway) manner.

I'll update as more progress is made.

Thanks goes out to all those people that have contributed! This community is what makes this a fun and enjoyable hobby.

[shaffaaf27]

right, i assume this is a MOBO fault.

when i manually OC, my GPU (4870x2) decides to give me 3 red lights, and the system wont post, with nothing on the screen.

BUT when i choose auto OCing, and set it to crazy, the red lights wont come on and everything will be fine.

i have tried both 1802 and 1902 BIOS'

my specs:


Q9950 (E0)
ASUS MAximus II Formula
Powercolor 4870X2
ASUS Xonar DX sound card
Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 650W
2x2GB Geil Black Dragon
640GB Samsung F1
Pioneer DVR-216BK

Swiftech GTZ water block
Thermochill PA120.3 radiator
EK Multioption 150 reservoir
Swiftech D5 Vario Pump

[ChaosWDG]

That sounds like a psu issue there mate

650w is REALLY pushing it with a 4870x2! and then an overclock aswell? your asking for a fail! you need to upgrade that little baby and put in something around 750w+

Its a real effer to do but once its done it should work.

[Grnfinger]

That sounds like a psu issue there mate

650w is REALLY pushing it with a 4870x2! and then an overclock aswell? your asking for a fail! you need to upgrade that little baby and put in something around 750w+

Its a real effer to do but once its done it should work.

650watt should be enough for 1 single 4870X2.

If you can check the SB voltages when you set "crazy" in the bios.
I would suspect you need more SB volts for your manual overclock.

[radaja]

got my RMA board back from asus today,fives the charm.i will be selling it for a very low price.dont want nothing to do with it.pm me if interested.

[Grnfinger]

got my RMA board back from asus today,fives the charm.i will be selling it for a very low price.dont want nothing to do with it.pm me if interested.

did they ship a new retail?

[radaja]

they said they got me a new board but would not send the accessories since i already have them and that they might need them for other customers.but it is a new board,has the plastic protective covers still on the heatsinks and ive inspected the board very closely and it looks brand new,the pcb is shiny and very clean,all the washers under the heatsinks are there and looks like they have never been messed with or taken off.they even have the extra reinforced washer under the nb screws(last two were the first boards released that had the nb overheating issueand were missing the extra washers).

[Grnfinger]

they said they got me a new board but would not send the accessories since i already have them and that they might need them for other customers.but it is a new board,has the plastic protective covers still on the heatsinks and ive inspected the board very closely and it looks brand new,the pcb is shiny and very clean,all the washers under the heatsinks are there and looks like they have never been messed with or taken off.they even have the extra reinforced washer under the nb screws(last two were the first boards released that had the nb overheating issueand were missing the extra washers).

Its been a long road but at least your finally done.
If you plan on parting with the board go spam the Maximus X38 / Rampage conversion thread, there are few there looking for one.

You should at least take the board for a test drive

[radaja]

grn,thanks for the info.your right i should try it out,but its just so hard because i really am so burnt out over this that there is absolutely no desire on my part to even be bothered with it.but ill just have to force myself to do this

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

Hi guys,

Im out of the topic right now. ( I was to long not on this board )...

I read that die GTL setting +20/-20/+20/-20 should bring some mhz...
Could u confirm that?



ps i was testing again. here my results for highFSB:
Test 570 MHz
Test 600 MHz (nonstable)

[CryptiK]

Hi guys,

Im out of the topic right now. ( I was to long not on this board )...

I read that die GTL setting +20/-20/+20/-20 should bring some mhz...
Could u confirm that?



ps i was testing again. here my results for highFSB:
Test 570 MHz
Test 600 MHz (nonstable)

Nice results. GTL Ref settings are something you need to figure out through trial and error, setting +20/-20/+20/-20 may not be optimal for your CPU. Also the GTL Ref settings need to be altered depending on the Vtt you use, and the FSB and clock you are running.

[WhiteFireDragon]

i finally have all possible settings tuned. i noticed that everyone's BIOS settings are different on this board, even with the same CPU. now my questions is, do these BIOS settings need to change based on variances of the same board or variances in the same CPU? meaning if i need to RMA this board and i get a bran new one back to use on the same exact CPU, do i need to re-tune everything since it's not the exact board? or if i use this same board and get a CPU of different batch, would i still have to find the GTL's and screws again? what about changing the memory?

[Grnfinger]

i finally have all possible settings tuned. i noticed that everyone's BIOS settings are different on this board, even with the same CPU. now my questions is, do these BIOS settings need to change based on variances of the same board or variances in the same CPU? meaning if i need to RMA this board and i get a bran new one back to use on the same exact CPU, do i need to re-tune everything since it's not the exact board? or if i use this same board and get a CPU of different batch, would i still have to find the GTL's and screws again? what about changing the memory?

I have 2 Maximus II Formula's both boards run my Q9550 at exact same settings stable.
Never tried other chips , I might try a few C2D on the weekend.

[CryptiK]

CPU-Z is not accurate to 0.001v...only to 0.008v. Has to do w/ the number of bits used to represent the number. 1.237v is closer to 1.240 than 1.232, so CPU-Z has to round up.

Interesting, I was thinking it must have been rounding up, but it rounds up a lot sometimes. LCD poster reports 1.270v loaded at 4.3 GHz, but cpu-z reports 1.280v, and at idle LCD poster reports 1.31v and cpu-z reports 1.320v.


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A couple of benches with GTX285:

3D Mark 03


3D Mark 06

[Grnfinger]

Interesting, I was thinking it must have been rounding up, but it rounds up a lot sometimes. LCD poster reports 1.270v loaded at 4.3 GHz, but cpu-z reports 1.280v, and at idle LCD poster reports 1.31v and cpu-z reports 1.320v.


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A couple of benches with GTX285:

3D Mark 03


3D Mark 06

Nice results, you should have went quad core, that cpu is holding you back

How hot does the card run on air?
Still waiting for a X2 waterblock and boy can I tell you this sucker pumps the heat, there should have been a BTU rating on the card

[CryptiK]

Thanks. The dual holds back 3D Mark 06, but in 03/01/practically all games except farcry 2 its equivalent to a quad AFAIK. Is that correct or do you get better FPS on the quad? Also on air its unlikely I'd get a quad stable at 4.3 so that's why I went dual, and it was a lot cheaper.

The card runs a bit hot with fan on auto; it self adjusts according to temp and never goes above 72%, max temp gaming is around 83 - 85*C. I have replaced TIM with MX-2 so that may have taken a couple of degrees off stock temps but I did it before I fired it up so I don't know.

[ninjagordy]

hey guys, i need a reference guide for the setup of this board with my e8600,

i was running 4.5ghz 24/7 with 500fsb on a p5k-e.

i really need someone's settings at 4.5ghz with a e8600 as a guide for me.

was at 4.5ghz earlier with 450fsb no problems but my old ide h'd bit the dust and im not sure if it was due to anything i did.

now i cant o.c. any as it refuses to boot.

cheers in advance.

Gordy!