ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Kayso]

I couldnt do it with the 5-5-5 timings, my mem is rated at 6-6-6-18. Otherwise, 498fsb runnin my Q9450@4.0... WOOT!!!!

Post full template please

[screwtech02]

Let me get it absoultly stable, and i will post back...

[Grnfinger]

And u can do that with 450 fsb +? I dont think those timings will work for me looks pretty much standard to what I have

depending on the version of your Dominators they may not clock well, I can hit 1121 on my GSkill kit and there power chips, I only have 4GBs of Dominators and they will do 1220 easy max out at 1230MHz

[screwtech02]

Grn, how do i figure the NB GTL settings, and were should i start with the dram clock skews?? Positive, or negative?? Wish this was easier to dial in.....

[Grnfinger]

Grn, how do i figure the NB GTL settings, and were should i start with the dram clock skews?? Positive, or negative?? Wish this was easier to dial in.....

4GBs I find advanced helps with stability, start at 100ps and work from there..
I have a NB GTL chart I'll post up the values shortly.

My mosfet waterblocks for the Rampage board finally arrived so I'll be starting the comparison this week comming.

[AquaRelliux]

depending on the version of your Dominators they may not clock well, I can hit 1121 on my GSkill kit and there power chips, I only have 4GBs of Dominators and they will do 1220 easy max out at 1230MHz

One par is version 1.1 they do 1081 mhz 24/7 stable the other par is 1.2 I havent tried them singley

[seba84_2005]

One par is version 1.1 they do 1081 mhz 24/7 stable the other par is 1.2 I havent tried them singley

I have such same mobo and memory 2x2GB is version 1.2. Max stable = 1120MHz with 2.1v. On higher mhz doesn't help up voltage.

[screwtech02]

I had to go up to PL10 for any type of stability, definatly took a hit on read performance....

I tried the NB GTL formula in the GTL thread, man, that seems to be all jacked up, plus, NOONE can tell me how you can tell to either set positive or negative settings/skews.... Seems like all the "write ups" are aimed at people who have a deg in electical engineering or something....

[Grnfinger]

I had to go up to PL10 for any type of stability, definatly took a hit on read performance....

I tried the NB GTL formula in the GTL thread, man, that seems to be all jacked up, plus, NOONE can tell me how you can tell to either set positive or negative settings/skews.... Seems like all the "write ups" are aimed at people who have a deg in electical engineering or something....

NB GTL's work out to about 50mv if your still running 1.59 volts

Dram clock scew is your friend, as I posted 2x2GB kits advanced seems to be the sweet spot, for 8GBs delay works better...I dont have an engineering degree but I have lost about 4 nights of sleep testing clock skews..

If you set a higher tref value and run 5-5-5-18 you might be able to lower your PL

try this

*In Brackets are timings that can be optimized later, outside of the brackets is a good starting point*
CAS# Latency - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
RAS# PRE Time - 5
RAS# ACT time - 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay - 4(3-4)
Ref Cycle Time - 55 (25-55)
Write Recovery Time - 6(3-6)
READ to PRE Time - 4(2-5)

READ to Write Delay (S/D) - 9 (7-10)
WRITE to READ Delay (S) - 5 (3-6)
WRITE to READ Delay (D) - 5 (4-6)
READ to READ Delay (S) - 4 (3-5)
READ to READ Delay (S) - 6 (5-7)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) - 4 (3-5)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) - 6 (5-7)

DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled (Enabled)
Ai Clock Twister - Light (Strong)
Transaction Booster - Disabled

[screwtech02]

Currently the only way i can get it to boot is...

6
6
6
18
5
60
6
5
12
5
5
6
6
5
6
14
6
1
6
6

GTL's
0 = auto
1 = -45
2 = auto
3 = -45

Have to run NBv @ 1.736

Current NB GTL is -25, i lowered it to -10, and seemed to gain some stability..

This is the only way i can boot into windows at all...

All other settings AI twister, ect, are set to your reccomendations.....

Should the NB GTL settings be positive, or negative??

Tried the memory skews also, none seem to work as well as auto...

[AquaRelliux]

ok my motherboard is really ed now after I played around alot with the 8gb of
ram that I sent back to the store now because I dident feel the need to have them. But now I have problems
with the motherboard not posting sometimes when I save bios settings or reboot the computer.

What I have to do then is to unplug he power to the psu and then put it back in again and it boots and
runs stable after that, and it dosent reset the bios settigns either.

What is this problem? it is really a pain in the ass is the mobo broken? I doubt that because after
I rebooted it a couple of times it starts just fine and runs stable for hours.

[Grnfinger]

ok my motherboard is really ed now after I played around alot with the 8gb of
ram that I sent back to the store now because I dident feel the need to have them. But now I have problems
with the motherboard not posting sometimes when I save bios settings or reboot the computer.

What I have to do then is to unplug he power to the psu and then put it back in again and it boots and
runs stable after that, and it dosent reset the bios settigns either.

What is this problem? it is really a pain in the ass is the mobo broken? I doubt that because after
I rebooted it a couple of times it starts just fine and runs stable for hours.

Sounds like you have loaded a saved bios profile...copy your settings reflash the bios, do a full cmos reset and enter your bios setting manually.
There is also a small bug related to vNB and VTT, if the values are within a few volts you get a post hang, I've never experienced it but many have, search this thread for the issue and check your vtt and vnb values

[screwtech02]

Gotta question on Seban's GTL calcultor, there are 2 sperate fields, VTT for set 1, and VTT for set 2, which of the settings are to be used, and are they positive, or negative settings???

[Grnfinger]

positive value for 65nm cpu and negative for 45nm cpu
not sure about the gtl calculator you have...the one I use has 2 options 1 for 45nm and 2 for 65nm and enter your vtt value of course.

[screwtech02]

I've used that one, it doesnet give any nb GTL settings.... The one im using is a xls file posted within this thread way back....

[seba84_2005]

what at me after the setting NB GTL : AUTO, Windows not start normally ( BSOD after logo Vista ) after the setting NB GTL: +60mV he just works normally... but i don't know if this good setting

ASUS Maximus II formula
Processor: Q9550
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 480
CPU Clock Skew: normal
NB Clock Skew: normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-960MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto (with Enabled BSOD)
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10 (0.8 no boot)
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled


PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.3625 (real 1.340 checked the measure)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
NB GTL Reference: +60mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[screwtech02]

I've had enough Grn, ordered some Enzotech mosfet blocks, and a NB block for my DKX48TRS2+.... Hopefully i will have better luck with it, and its bios.....

[jason4207]

I've used that one, it doesnet give any nb GTL settings.... The one im using is a xls file posted within this thread way back....

Just experiment. It's only 1 setting. Just try from -100mv to +100mv and see what works best. That's what I did. Those formulas are OK to get started, but can be overly confusing and lead you astray if you stick to them for set-and-forget settings.

Since it is inter-dependent w/ vNB you have to do a back-and-forth w/ each setting. See what NB-GTL works best for the vNB you're at, and then try lowering or raising vNB and try again. Make yourself a table and plot out the best combos.

Yes, it is time-consuming, but this is a hobby board, and requires a lot of attention to get it just right. Copying others settings will only get you so far.

I spent a good 4 weeks playing w/ mine before giving up on 485+FSB for 24/7 stability. I can boot at 505x8.5 and run any bench at 500x8.5, but for 24/7 I took a more conservative approach and settled on a nice even 4GHz (471x8.5) 5:6 DDR-1132 5-5-5-15 PL8 Strong. Trying to push the FSB too hard makes it hard to get the RAM tight anyway.

[Furiøùs]

Okay, how do I enable the LAN teaming? Where can I get the driver etc.

I've been googling for 30min with no results. Seems like everyone talks about it but never tried it out.

Anyone know where to go to figure out how to enable and use it?

[screwtech02]

You can download the utility from Marvel, it's called NCU. As of now it doesnt support windoz 7, but works fine in other os's. Just install it, and go to the properties of each nic, create a "team" i use "static", and add the other nic to it. Easy as that, connection will change to 200mbps, and your good to go...

[Furiøùs]

Nice! Thanks man

[Grnfinger]

unless you have a edu pipe or similar that can take advantage of the increased bandwidth..whats the benifit of a 200mbps nic?

[screwtech02]

It definatly made for better torrent connections for me.....

[Grnfinger]

hmmm, I have a 10mbit line at home maybe I shall try it, I dont use torrents but I use newsgroups and have top site axx

[jason4207]

It definatly made for better torrent connections for me.....

Really?

I'd think the Internet connection would bottleneck it. I mean it shouldn't matter how fast you can talk to the router if the router can only talk to the web via 10Mb/s.

And shouldn't it be 2000Mb/s (2Gb/s) if you team? I guess you need a Gb router, though.