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    P45's and DDR3 don't seem to produce very good results, so this board should definitely be better than your P5Q3. If you are going to stay around 3.6GHz - 4.0GHz, this board should be fine for you. However if you want to clock higher go grab the UD3P, that clocks quads like nothing else.

    Some people got good samples of the M2F, so you might be lucky, others have got average boards and some were just hopeless, warped etc. Radaja went through 5 boards until he got one that was up to standard regarding build quality. Asus really messed up the quality control on the Max 2 Formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 529th View Post
    I bought this board MIIF in hopes for a new home for my Q9650. Reading this thread sorta depresses me. I've not pushed my Q9650 beyond 3.6Ghz on this board but I do know its better than my old Asus P5Q3 Del which required 1.345vcore to hit 4ghz; with this it comes across at 3.6Ghz with 1.20v which at the same speed required 1.2500+v on the P5Q3 (running 1901 bios too btw)
    Don't be too down beat with your purchase.....i'm running my Q9650 at 4.275Ghz on this 'board, with 1.328v under load, so its not all bad. Higher FSB may be possible on the UD3 series Gigabyte's (and i may yet test drive one) but this is a solid, if not outstanding, offering.

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    I'm not even sure what revision board I have... although I do know that I have this on custom H20 with some help from an Anandtech member that I am hoping to reach 500fsb with 2 Gskill 1000 2x2 kits (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ) = not even sure which IC's are on those either. But I appreciate E.V.O. for posting in the Asus vip forums about the things that need be changed...

    Which Rampage board is Grnfinger talking about? And what about the UD3P series?

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    Well the rampage extreme (X48, DDR3) is obviously way better than this board, but Grnfinger was referring to the rampage formula (X48, DDR2).
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    <<+1 for the people that like their board

    Just a question, what voltage are you guys giving the northbridge to run 450fsb 24/7? Also, are you running the vtt at that same voltage?

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    Hey I have the small problem. I can not get stability on mine Q9550 E0

    My settings:

    Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
    FSB Frequency: 480
    CPU Clock Skew: Auto
    NB Clock Skew: Auto
    FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1152MHz

    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual

    1st Information:

    CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
    RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
    Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
    Write Recovery Time: 6
    Read to Precharge Time: 3

    2nd Information:

    Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D): Auto


    3rd Information:

    Write to PRE Delay: Auto
    Read to PRE Delay: Auto
    PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
    All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
    All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    DRAM Read Training: Auto
    MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
    Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
    Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

    Common Performance Level: 10
    Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
    Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
    Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
    Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
    Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
    Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

    PCIE Frequency: 100

    CPU Voltage: 1.3500
    CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.338
    DRAM Voltage: 2.19
    North Bridge Voltage: 1.4
    South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51
    South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11

    CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
    NB GTL Reference: Auto
    DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
    DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
    North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

    CPU Configuration

    Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
    C1E Support: Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
    Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
    CPU TM Function: Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

    What I have adjust CPU GTL voltage ? I try set up: -40mv 1/3 and -45mv 1/3
    but this did not give anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by seba84_2005 View Post
    Hey I have the small problem. I can not get stability on mine Q9550 E0

    My settings:

    ...

    What I have adjust CPU GTL voltage ? I try set up: -40mv 1/3 and -45mv 1/3
    but this did not give anything
    Try Simps guide a few pages back. If you have only tried 2 GTL combos you have barely scratched the surface. I've been testing for about 3 weeks now, and have tried at least 150 different combinations on just the CPU GTL's alone.

    I'm pretty sure I have 485 locked down (over 12hrs large-fft before 1 core fails), but I'm working on going higher now...it's tedious to say the least.

    Try playing w/ NB GTL. It helped me immensely.
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    Bito, could you please post the BIOS settings you are using to get that Overclock?

    Quote Originally Posted by bito View Post
    Don't be too down beat with your purchase.....i'm running my Q9650 at 4.275Ghz on this 'board, with 1.328v under load, so its not all bad. Higher FSB may be possible on the UD3 series Gigabyte's (and i may yet test drive one) but this is a solid, if not outstanding, offering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celcius View Post
    <<+1 for the people that like their board

    Just a question, what voltage are you guys giving the northbridge to run 450fsb 24/7? Also, are you running the vtt at that same voltage?
    Depends on divider and tRD, but around 1.25v for 450 FSB/DDR2-1200 PL8. Need around 1.30 vNB for PL7. I run Vtt @ 1.25v regardless of anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    Bito, could you please post the BIOS settings you are using to get that Overclock?




    Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
    FSB Frequency: 475
    CPU Clock Skew: Auto
    NB Clock Skew: Auto
    FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

    1st Information:

    CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
    RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
    Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
    Write Recovery Time: 6
    Read to Precharge Time: 3

    PCIE Frequency: 101

    CPU Voltage: 1.3250
    CPU PLL Voltage: 1.57
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
    DRAM Voltage: 2.10
    North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
    South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
    South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

    CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
    CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
    NB GTL Reference: Auto
    DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
    DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
    North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

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    Thanks I will give it a try later tonight and let you know how it goes, I have been unable to get stable above 4050MHz and 450 FSB. Thanks again


    Quote Originally Posted by bito View Post




    Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
    FSB Frequency: 475
    CPU Clock Skew: Auto
    NB Clock Skew: Auto
    FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

    1st Information:

    CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
    RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
    Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
    Write Recovery Time: 6
    Read to Precharge Time: 3

    PCIE Frequency: 101

    CPU Voltage: 1.3250
    CPU PLL Voltage: 1.57
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
    DRAM Voltage: 2.10
    North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
    South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
    South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

    CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
    CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
    NB GTL Reference: Auto
    DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
    DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
    North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
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    If you could post your FPO/Batch number as well, thanks?

    Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
    FSB Frequency: 475
    CPU Clock Skew: Auto
    NB Clock Skew: Auto
    FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

    1st Information:

    CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
    RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
    Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
    Write Recovery Time: 6
    Read to Precharge Time: 3

    PCIE Frequency: 101

    CPU Voltage: 1.3250
    CPU PLL Voltage: 1.57
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
    DRAM Voltage: 2.10
    North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
    South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
    South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

    CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
    CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
    NB GTL Reference: Auto
    DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
    DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
    North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled[/QUOTE]
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    @bito: Is that on water? Also, do you remember how much vcore you needed for 4Ghz?

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    So, i've finally tried finding the max my components will go.
    custom H20 btw

    Q9650 - FPO/Batch# L820B033
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    DDR2 1000 2* 2x2 kit
    Enermax Revolution 950

    tries:
    1 I've ran memtest86+ 2.11 1 pass at 500fsb 7 multi and it passed but would not boot
    2 Leaving everything on auto except the fsb to 450 boots fine passes both small and large FFT's in prime 95, IBT running ATI tool (Scanning for artifacts) - vcore read 1.344 ~ 1.352
    I've heard small FFTs are for CPU stability and large are more for subsystem & RAM testing more than cpu testings - is that correct?

    I'm not sure about how to set my bios for 4.5Ghz - I've actually ordered another Q9650 thinking it maybe the weak link

    Can I get a few suggestions from the experienced people here? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celcius View Post
    @bito: Is that on water? Also, do you remember how much vcore you needed for 4Ghz?
    It is indeed on water....4.0Ghz requires 1.232v........

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...91#post3403091

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    Maybe For 500 FSB On Quad I Need WaterCooling Both CPU & NB???
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    Nice Bito, you have one of those magical 1.225 vid chips

    Well, after tinkering with a ton of settings here's where I'm at prime 95 blend 17 hours stable, IBT stable



    Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
    FSB Frequency: 456
    CPU Clock Skew: Normal
    NB Clock Skew: Normal
    FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
    DRAM Frequency: 1095 DDR2-MHz
    Performance Level: 8
    Clock Twister: Strong

    1st Information:

    CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
    RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
    Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
    Write Recovery Time: 6
    Read to Precharge Time: 3

    PCIE Frequency: 100

    CPU Voltage: 1.3685 (1.376 actual)
    CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3125
    DRAM Voltage: 2.10
    North Bridge Voltage: 1.45
    South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
    South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

    CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
    CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
    NB GTL Reference: -20
    DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
    DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
    North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

    Will try to lower NB volts now and attempt to lower the TRD.




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    Hi

    Could Any1 Give Me Bios Setting For E4600(C2D 65nm) For Find Max FSB In 6X Ration CMOS Multiplier
    About Voltage,GTL Anything For Find Max FSB
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    Couple of benches with the 285.

    3D Mark 03: 4.4 GHz/ DDR2-1222 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1458



    Aquamark: 4.5 GHz/ DDR2-1250 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1507



    3D Mark 01: 4.4 GHz/ DDR2-1222 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1458

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason4207 View Post
    Try Simps guide a few pages back. If you have only tried 2 GTL combos you have barely scratched the surface. I've been testing for about 3 weeks now, and have tried at least 150 different combinations on just the CPU GTL's alone.

    I'm pretty sure I have 485 locked down (over 12hrs large-fft before 1 core fails), but I'm working on going higher now...it's tedious to say the least.

    Try playing w/ NB GTL. It helped me immensely.

    My best stable GTL = +20mv all ref CPU and +60mv to NB

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    Thanks for the reply, your config just didn't seem to work for me, I am on Air only with a lapped TRUE. Try 470 and 460, these both booted into windows but were unstable to say the least. Looks like 4050 will be it for me. I have an "A" revision chip and this might be why. Batch/FPO: L828A446.

    Quote Originally Posted by bito View Post
    It is indeed on water....4.0Ghz requires 1.232v........

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...91#post3403091

    Batch/FPO: L822B344
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    Quote Originally Posted by 529th View Post
    So, i've finally tried finding the max my components will go.
    custom H20 btw

    Q9650 - FPO/Batch# L820B033
    MIIF
    DDR2 1000 2* 2x2 kit
    Enermax Revolution 950

    tries:
    1 I've ran memtest86+ 2.11 1 pass at 500fsb 7 multi and it passed but would not boot
    2 Leaving everything on auto except the fsb to 450 boots fine passes both small and large FFT's in prime 95, IBT running ATI tool (Scanning for artifacts) - vcore read 1.344 ~ 1.352
    I've heard small FFTs are for CPU stability and large are more for subsystem & RAM testing more than cpu testings - is that correct?

    I'm not sure about how to set my bios for 4.5Ghz - I've actually ordered another Q9650 thinking it maybe the weak link

    Can I get a few suggestions from the experienced people here? Thanks

    You aren't going to get far at all w/ everything on auto. Go back a few pages and look for a guide by Simps. It should help you get started.

    450 is easy. 470-480 stable will take a little bit of work, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. 480+ is going to take a lot more effort to get completely stable if its even possible w/ one's particular hardware.

    Your new chip might be easier to OC or more difficult. Each is different.
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    So with the new annoucements

    So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    Couple of benches with the 285.



    3D Mark 01: 4.4 GHz/ DDR2-1222 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1458

    Grnfinger - you can see the individual game test fps in this one

    VERY NICE!

    I'll never get the 4870X2 ram up that high but I should be able to get the cores to 825MHz, I'll run some comparisons once the block arrives, hope to have it this weekend, its finally in the mail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tergon View Post
    So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?



    Do you have a link? That would be awesome!
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