Nehalem-EP......BLOOMFIELD

**jaredpace** · 10-10-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Pillo-kun

feels kinda faster than

this is 70% dependent HDD speed & latency, 20% dependent on how clogged your os is with resources/processes/antivir/hotfixes/updates, and 9.8% dependent on cpu/ram performance. 2 tenths of a percent left over for lcd ghosting/mouse lag/time of day/gravity/etc.

**savantu** · 10-10-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Looking at the Dual/Tripple comparisons, I dare say this will be Socket428/478/ Rambus skulduggery all over again!

That's an L3 limit.Looks like the memory BW available is bigger than what the L3 can deliver.You need to OC the L3 in order to fully use DDR3 1333/1600.

**Shintai** · 10-10-2008, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Source: NordicHardware

Just though I'd share, seeing as this is XS, it would seem like something you would like to know

And we have another 400l beyond thew dewars on the pictures.

//Andreas

Those bottles are so cute

**Charles Wirth** · 10-10-2008, 12:47 PM

Launch day clock off!

Im in.

**Metroid** · 10-10-2008, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by informal

Metroid,Athlon XP didn't have Integrated memory controller ... They were based on K7 core.K8 bring the IMC and HyperTransport,among other uarch. improvement.
There must have been something else which made you(and others) feel that your AMD AthlonXP system was "smoother" (TM) or more responsive.

Yes it must had been something else that made the system more responsive meaning when you open a program, not smoother.

Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129

Um, Athlon XP didn't have an IMC. This is what I call your "imagination." This talk about AMD CPUs feel "smoother" started after Core 2 Duo's launch. These people based it on the fact that Athlon 64s and X2s had an IMC while Intel used FSB. Of course it's all bullcrud. I had an FX-55/X2 4400+ before and doesn't feel any more smoother than my PD940, E6600, Q6700.

See it, feel it, believe it

Metroid.

**Jacky** · 10-10-2008, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Pillo-kun

could it be cause of the higher latency on the dd2 mems?

Overall the average-latency of DDR2 should be similar or even better than with ddr1, even though some of the latency settings are more "loose". AFAIK latency is calculated from the clock and the different latencies you can tweak in the bios. The latencies we're talking about are in the realm of tens of nanoseconds (one billionth of a second), it's impossible to notice, so in theory it can't be the memory-latency/IMC. If we want to look somewhere we'd need to compare the platforms as a whole...

can not think of anything else that could explain it, or maybe it is placebo for expecting to much of the newer hardware?

The imagination is very powerful and the mind very strange and easily fooled. To eliminate this uncertainty e.g. complicated, double blind, placebo controlled trials were invented I guess. Didn't the project windows mojave try to prove: that people believe what they want to believe?
As the difference in smoothness was never proven (i.e. measured; I know that would be quite difficult, but it's possible) nor pointed out by any major review site, I think it's just the mind playing tricks on you folks.

**AuDioFreaK39** · 10-11-2008, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Launch day clock off!

Im in.

I'm also in, if anyone can help me figure out what half the new BIOS settings do.

I'll be entering in the "air cooling" division fyi.

**NaeKuh** · 10-23-2008, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Launch day clock off!

Im in.

DOE...

*kickn the can* dont remind of D day. :T

**Revv23** · 10-23-2008, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Launch day clock off!

Im in.

Not fair you've already had time to play!

**Revv23** · 10-23-2008, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Source: NordicHardware

Just though I'd share, seeing as this is XS, it would seem like something you would like to know

And we have another 400l beyond thew dewars on the pictures.

//Andreas

I spy a F1 EE a tek 9 1.0 and 2 tek9 4.0 slims! Woo!

**Donnie27** · 10-26-2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by FUGGER

Launch day clock off!

Im in.

Almost Halloween

**JCornell** · 10-29-2008, 05:02 AM

Rev.C1 again before launch

...

**STaRGaZeR** · 10-29-2008, 05:13 AM

C1 is the retail stepping? Or C0?

Maybe you can't answer that question, but still...

**JCornell** · 10-29-2008, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

C1 is the retail stepping? Or C0?

Maybe you can't answer that question, but still...

Don't know yet, heard there'll be D0

**FlanK3r** · 10-29-2008, 05:35 AM

And what different C0 vs C1?

**Mumak** · 10-29-2008, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

And what different C0 vs C1?

The brand string only

**mikeyakame** · 10-29-2008, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

And what different C0 vs C1?

stepping changes are for bug fixes. so change in stepping usually means more bug fixes, critical or non-critical.

**Aivas47a** · 10-29-2008, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39

I'm also in, if anyone can help me figure out what half the new BIOS settings do.

I'll be entering in the "air cooling" division fyi.

FWIW Anandtech has said they'll be releasing some nehalem overclocking guidance on release date -- apparently different boards have the bios options configured somewhat differently.

**s0lid** · 10-29-2008, 07:17 AM

That's an Dual SocketF board, AMD gooods

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...84&modelmenu=1

**Slovnaft** · 10-29-2008, 07:27 AM

yeh just realised that.

**AuDioFreaK39** · 10-29-2008, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Aivas47a

FWIW Anandtech has said they'll be releasing some nehalem overclocking guidance on release date -- apparently different boards have the bios options configured somewhat differently.

Sounds good, thanks for the info.

**AuDioFreaK39** · 11-06-2008, 09:26 PM

Just ordered my Core i7 Extreme 965 and Core i7 920

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