How about cooling your system with water that isn't wet?

[Smalltimer]

Many of us know about fluorinert

Unforuntately few(if any) could ever afford to use any in our rigs. Although I could think of some pretty amazing cooling designs with this product!

Watch as this video shows the amazing properties and uses of Fluorinert.

http://exn.ca/video/?video=exn20050209-waterless.asx

PS. You can purchase Fluorinert online for around $375US per liter.

[eleeter]

PS. You can purchase Fluorinert online for around $375US per liter.

Only slightly more than the price of gas in 2 years.


Cool video!

[FischOderAal]

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[Kayin]

InertX used to sell Flourinert reclaimed from Cray systems for 15 a liter.

[Frank M]

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Same here.

$375? Then I'd just put on big heatsinks and submerge the whole
thing in mineral oil or motor oil...

[xytrius]

Video needs Windows Media Player running in IE. Works in my setup (IE7/WMP11). You have to manually allow the WMP ActiveX control to run.

[Manicdan]

from my research on it, the problem comes in where it evaporates quite quickly and is bad for the enviroment

[Logos]

video runs for me in Firefox; just needs the WMP plugin to be installed, as it doesn't automatically install itself in Firefox in Vista like it does in Firefox in XP
http://port25.technet.com/pages/wind...-download.aspx

oh btw, interesting topic, wish that "liquid" was affordable

[theclash]

It works just fine with WMP running in Opera.

[saaya]

what a crappy video implementation
can somebody upload it to youtube or megavideo?

edit, ok, with the patch the video works, loading takes forever tho...
i dont see whats so special about the video?

[Origin_Unknown]

wow thats pretty cool

[iddqd]

How about cooling your system with water that isn't wet?

How about... no?

[RADCOM]

I used to use it in my rig. It was a bit pricey but more than paid for itself the amount of times I spilt in my case.It evaporates very very quickly and sometimes i cried when I spilt some and it evaporated before I could reach for anything to save it lmao The problem is it reacts with a lot of things.....it eventually ate through the glue in my swiftech micro res and it shattered like sugar glass. It also had a very strange reaction with the tubing....but it didn't leak. It smells funny too. There are different types of flourinert as well...see 3M website:-
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...er/output_html

Oh and a sidenote will someone kick that smug Man Utd fan above please lol

[Smalltimer]

I used to use it in my rig. It was a bit pricey but more than paid for itself the amount of times I spilt in my case.It evaporates very very quickly and sometimes i cried when I spilt some and it evaporated before I could reach for anything to save it lmao The problem is it reacts with a lot of things.....it eventually ate through the glue in my swiftech micro res and it shattered like sugar glass. It also had a very strange reaction with the tubing....but it didn't leak. It smells funny too. There are different types of flourinert as well...see 3M website:-
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...er/output_html

Oh and a sidenote will someone kick that smug Man Utd fan above please lol

Fascinating experience and information.

As it stands, I am to cheap to try some. But the thought of a submerged system has always seemed very intriguing. My own interests lie in whether Fluorinert could be used in a maintenance free sealed loop. However, the high evaporation levels could prove to be a challenge to contain with conventional tubing though.

[Zaskar]

Im not positive but I though the stuff was very thin and could work its way through seals that would be considered water tight.

[Aleki]

kind'a reminds me of this. though i wonder how effective mineral oil would be as a coolant in place of water in a watercooled setup.

[Polizei]

Old, old, old site, but here's a taste of what you can do with the stuff.

[largon]

Soooo, what's the point in using this stuff?
Other than that you can safely spill it on your video card 'n' mobo?

[clonez]

on the first glance it aint very suitable for conventional watercooling systems
rather build a vapour chamber (boiling point @ 56°C), like a cascade, but without compressor (temps shouldnt be that impressive, though, but would not exceed like 50°c, no matter what tdp (chamber must always be filled with liquid, o.c.)

[saaya]

you guys also shouldnt forget that its not quite healthy from what i know... not really hazzardous but i wouldnt want to inhale it every day
and yes, it leaks through a lot of things as it evaporates and the gas then leaks

[Neuuubeh]

Fascinating experience and information.

As it stands, I am to cheap to try some. But the thought of a submerged system has always seemed very intriguing. My own interests lie in whether Fluorinert could be used in a maintenance free sealed loop. However, the high evaporation levels could prove to be a challenge to contain with conventional tubing though.

I'm a total noob at that, but cant you just use transformer oil or something like that? I'm pretty sure people used to do that..
whats the heat conductance on this thing? what about heat capacity (not sure thats the term..)?

[KoHaN69]

"It evaporates twenty-five times faster than water"
- add that to the cost as well

[RADCOM]

I forgot this old thread at overclock..... read it all and check my pictures of the Alphacool reservoir. I went through two. Come to think of it it the fluorinert didn't smell it was the tubbing that smelt like petroleum ( it all makes sense now lol ) I thought it would make a great trouble free rig but I was wrong!
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=494067

[Serra]

Fluoroinert is not a water substitute.

It was chosen for its application with the cray 2 because they required a full-immersion solution that didn't have the many drawbacks of oil and used much more powerful pumps.

To put this myth in its place - it has a much higher viscosity than water (kills your pump), a lower thermal conductivity (removes heat more slowly than water) *and* it costs substantially more. Oh, and there are questions about its safety.



Bottom line: No no no no no - it is not better than water in any regard, save that it's not electrically conductive (and we have far cheaper solutions that net the same effect).

Edit: Yes, you could use it to submerge your system (the above was about using it in a traditional water cooling capacity)... but frankly submersion is not currently competitive in any way/shape/form with even mid-end air cooling. It's possible, sure, but it has been shown that you would effectively require a number of pumps (or at least multiple outlets from one pump) and specially-designed heatsinks etc. And even then, it wouldn't be quite as effective as even low-end water cooling, though you would have spent many many times more.

[sdsdv10]

Many of us know about fluorinert

Unforuntately few(if any) could ever afford to use any in our rigs. Although I could think of some pretty amazing cooling designs with this product!

Watch as this video shows the amazing properties and uses of Fluorinert.

http://exn.ca/video/?video=exn20050209-waterless.asx

PS. You can purchase Fluorinert online for around $375US per liter.

Not trying to be "Mister Know it all", but the OP was incorrect. The chemical in the video is not Fluorinet. You can clearly see in the video (~1/4 to 1/3 into the video) , but is another 3M product call Novec 1230. It is a perfluorinated ketone derivative, not a fluorocarbon like Fluorinert.

Here are some links to data on the compound at the 3M website:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...ovec1230/Home/

http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediaw...mmmBouY3MMMML-