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    New SecuROM treats everyone as a pirate

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=7235&Itemid=1

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    More Sony-owned intrusive DRM to make us all miserable

    Sony is at it again! PC Gamers will get the short end of the stick with the new Sony-owned SecuROM protection system that will be deployed on upcoming PC titles such as Mass Effect and Spore. While many have been unhappy with SecuROM’s shenanigans in the past in the name software piracy protection, the all-new intrusive system will, in effect, treat everyone as a pirate.

    With the new SecuROM, when it is deployed on a software product it basically has to be connected to the Internet to phone home every ten days or so to reauthorize the use of the game. This allows the publisher to blacklist keys and verify the game is installed where a user says that it is installed. If verification across the Internet is unable to be completed, it will try again for the next ten days; after which time if it is still unable to validate the key, the software will stop working.

    Besides this DRM being inconvenient and intrusive, it will present potential problems for those who are at a LAN party, for example, and don’t have Internet access. And what about users that are traveling on the road with laptops and are away from Internet access?

    Gamers got the first taste of the latest Sony-owned SecuROM protection with the PC release of Bioshock, and the results were not pretty; many users reporting a wide variety of problems that were directly associated with SecuROM. While publishers are saying that they are going to provide comprehensive support for users having problems getting their game to verify, it is difficult to believe that they will not have a lot of problems getting this to work seamlessly.

    While it is understandable that game publishers for the PC want to be paid for their work, imposing such heavy-handed DRM schemes and forcing people to accept this as the norm is not something that will go over well, from past experience.

    PC users will simply not buy the title if word gets out that the protection system is a pain to deal with. In the past, issues with copy protection have affected more than one title; and if users think that they are being spied upon with copy protection they will not support it or the titles. It would be so much easer if PC Gamers just purchased the titles that they are playing, rather than trying to find a way to get something for nothing.

    Sony can call it what they want, but with their ongoing behavior it continues to appear that they are penalizing all of us because its Betamax lost the video format war so many years ago. After all they need to make a few more bucks to help offset the up front cost of winning the HD format war with Blu-ray and what better way to do it than sell copy protection that will make people mad and looking for something else to do.

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    old topic is old.

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    New, but old.

    Guff like this is essentially why I avoid Sony whenever possible
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    turok and assassins creed do this already they just dont turn it off, and they have a disk ID and if that gets banned then ur done
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    old topic is old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3NZ0 View Post
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    Quite a few old threads today?
    and some random non-news ones as well, where are mods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by K404 View Post
    New, but old.

    Guff like this is essentially why I avoid Sony whenever possible
    You have to boicott SecuROM games, not Sony...
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    All they are accomplishing is inviting piracy. Screw-you-ROM is a toy to get around...
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    When the copy protection gets to the point of being detrimental to the user experiance, the pirated version (with copy protection ripped out) becomes the better and more inviting product. Copy protection can and will be cracked, just takes time, after which all this serves to do is irritate genuine customers.
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    Sooooo ... What happens after I buy a laptop and I want to play Spore on my PC as well as my laptop???

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    1. Go to my local games store and purchase Mass Effects for PC.
    2. Go home and download a crack for Mass Effects PC.
    3. Install Mass Effects and the crack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABXG View Post
    1. Go to my local games store and purchase Mass Effects for PC.
    2. Go home and download a crack for Mass Effects PC.
    3. Install Mass Effects and the crack.
    While I agree that this is the best solution, the very fact that it has come down to having to use cracks to make the game user friendly is a powerful statement.

    It is also illegal as well, proving that copy protection CAN indeed turn us into pirates, the exact opposite intended purpose.

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    Here's an idea - what about a graduated fee? So if I have a paper route and make $150/wk, I get to buy GTA4 for $10. But if I'm a CEO and make $150 million a year, it costs me $150,000. The IRS could charge a fee for determining which fee bracket you fall into (the way things are going, god knows they need the money) - just like the credit companies. And if you haven't filed a tax return, you don't get to buy anything. Think about it, it COULD work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    Sooooo ... What happens after I buy a laptop and I want to play Spore on my PC as well as my laptop???
    That wont be allowed. Many games now dont allow you to have it installed on more than 1 machine. Even if you buy the game and let your brother or sister install it on their machine aswell it is not allowed, they have to buy a seperate license in order to play.

    Needless to say that this Securom will soon be cracked and then everyone will just pirate the game instead. Its this kind of stupidity that the companies are employing that is making piracy worse.

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    This makes absolutely no sense to me. Most of the people who are stealing the games are downloading cracked versions anyways. Someone will simply crack this new method (has it not already been done with Bioshock?) and the games will be downloaded and used no differently than they are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twilyth View Post
    Here's an idea - what about a graduated fee? So if I have a paper route and make $150/wk, I get to buy GTA4 for $10. But if I'm a CEO and make $150 million a year, it costs me $150,000. The IRS could charge a fee for determining which fee bracket you fall into (the way things are going, god knows they need the money) - just like the credit companies. And if you haven't filed a tax return, you don't get to buy anything. Think about it, it COULD work.

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    The problem with this ideology is that it gives no incentive for a person to work harder or to strive for more money, when the end result is the same. Why would anyone work hard to make millions of dollars, when some paper boy could buy the same stuff at a reduced price.

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    securom games usually get cracked pretty quickly anyway
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    I never unstand these type things.

    Why not just distibute like via steam, even the cd copy's make require steam. That way, atleast its worth while. (automatic updates, cheat protection, messenger client etc)

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    Old, and not applicable anymore.

    Spore ditched the 10day reauthorize - http://mysporepage.com/article/article_15/

    Mass Effect ditched the 10day reauthorize - http://kotaku.com/5008452/bioware-ba...authentication

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChOmP View Post
    Old, and not applicable anymore.

    Spore ditched the 10day reauthorize - http://mysporepage.com/article/article_15/

    Mass Effect ditched the 10day reauthorize - http://kotaku.com/5008452/bioware-ba...authentication
    *poke*

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChOmP View Post
    Old, and not applicable anymore.

    Spore ditched the 10day reauthorize - http://mysporepage.com/article/article_15/

    Mass Effect ditched the 10day reauthorize - http://kotaku.com/5008452/bioware-ba...authentication
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    why can't everyone adopt a system like steam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] itznfb View Post
    why can't everyone adopt a system like steam?
    seems like they want to ruin themselves. and they're well on the way to do so...

    these companies come up with such stuff and then wonder why none is buying their games. i really don't get what they think they're doing.
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    I hate spyware!...which securom is.
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    ^^ Good ideas; glad both games dropped it (perhaps a demonstration of the power boards like xs have over dev's ?) but i'd push for further acceptance of steam-like platforms. e, valve should make a gaming OS
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