D-Tek Fuzion vs EK-Supreme?

[LockBreaker]

Hey. I was just wondering. EK-Supreme versus the D-Tek Fuzion block?

I am going to order this weekend, so a quick reply would be nice.

[WoZZeR999]

What kind of pump do you have, and is the cpu in a loop alone?

[contiki]

Trying to make similar decision here, only I am thinking quad nozzled D-TEK VS EK Supreme

Loop is CPU - MCW60 - EK S-Max (NB), PA120.3
Pump is DDC Ultra Petratech top

[WoZZeR999]

The EK is supposed to be fairly restrictive, and the general thought is that it should really only be used in it's own loop. I was trying to make the decision myself with the D-Tek vs. EK and ended up using the D-Tek. I am using the 5.5mm nozzle right now and I still see plenty of flow in my res with 3 items in the loop. I would say with the free flowing nature of the rest of your loop, you would probably be better off with a D-Tek with a nozzle kit.

[evil-98]

everyone is wonder which is better, both DTek and EK have a great reputation and you can expect great products from both, the real difference is weather or not it suits your application.

i also asked this a few weeks ago, and honestly now ive decided on the EK Supreme, first off. EK has amazing quality, when i saw the inside of the block i was sold. just amazing. and it suits my application perfectly, single CPU loop.

but then again i really am choosing the EK b/c i already have a DTek, wouldnt mind having another but for a few dollar difference, ill go with the EK for my application.

[Martinm210]

For CPU only loops and a strong pump I think with both nozzled it's going to be close race, but for multiple block loops, D-Tek provides greater flexibility.

I'm testing some of the TDX blocks right now, and amazed how free flowing the new MC-TDX is, it's even better than a fuzion for pressure drop by a hair. Going to have to make a nozzle for it and see how that does..

[LockBreaker]

My pump is a DDC-655 or something.
1200 LPH

And I will be running a dual-graphic cards setup.

Radiator is a PA.120.3. And the CPU is not in a loop for it's own, unfortunately.

[Martinm210]

The older TDX blocks (last version) had 5 different nozzles for them made by DD. Does the new MPC version have them?

andyc

Not yet, it would be easy enough to make though...just need to match the ID of the barb.

[BenArcher]

OK I'm looking at running a single loop with CPU & GPU but with 2 x DDC 3.2's with Petra's top. Main reason for a single loop is because I want to have the rads in a different room to the computer so am trying to cover about 3 - 4 meters distance with tube. Looking at flow estimators I get higher flow rates with both pumps in the loop than either loop would archive individually.

1.6 GPM for a CPU loop with Quad Nozzled Fuzion (Which I believe is similar in restriction to a stock EK Supreme)

1.45 GPM for GPU loop with EK FC-8800

Where as It estimates 1.75 GPM if I have a single loop with 2 pumps in series.

So what would you suggest for a loop like that? Iv'e been thinking the EK because people have been saying it performs better with stronger pumps/more flow and I think 1.7GPM or so of flow is in the higher range. But now you have me interested in this Aqua Computer block Any links for it? Or an opinion would be great.

Thanks

[BenArcher]

Ok don't worry I just looked it up. It looks awesome but for the price it would want to be. To get it in Australia makes it twice the price of the EK or Fuzion & I don't see it being that much better.

[systemviper]

HI, Just to throw this thread off in a little different direction, i have the Apogee™ GT and love it. I keep reading about these 2 other blocks and being a lover of the best, i want to change, but I keep telling myself that it will only change the difference in temp by a few degrees, so it doesn't make any sence. AM i on track with my thinking. How big of a delta do you think is between the "Apogee™ GT " and the EK-Supreme or the D-Tek Fuzion. Would i be correct to say that it would be 5 degrees MAX, Ihave great Rad's and flow so it's not an issue of setup but of pure performance.

Thanks for all your time and effort!....

Internal structure: the CNC machined C110 copper base plate is at the heart of Apogee™ GT cooling efficiency. Designed using Computational Fluid Dynamics, the Patent Pending Diamond Pin Matrix was further optimized in the "GT" version resulting in increased surface area and coolant velocity. The thickness remains at 3mm to promote a high compliance factor with its mating surface (i.e. the CPU heat spreader) thanks to the base plate flexing ability. This particular feature allows additional "tweaks" to the Apogee™ generation of water-blocks and may yield substantial performance gains.

[coolmiester]

Not yet, it would be easy enough to make though...just need to match the ID of the barb.

Martinm210 your looking at making a nozzle kit that fits in a parallel barb which i've never seen??

As i explained in PM, the nozzle kit for the TDX fits into the TDK base but as the MC-TDX pins are as high as the base itself i just don't know how this can be unless you plan for the nozzles to fit into the barb itself which would mean they could fit into any block.................look forward to seeing it though

[systemviper]

Here's a newcommer to the CPU block market but it looks like the bomb...

Enzotech SCW-1 Sapphire CPU Waterblock

[NaeKuh]

everyone is wonder which is better, both DTek and EK have a great reputation and you can expect great products from both, the real difference is weather or not it suits your application.

i also asked this a few weeks ago, and honestly now ive decided on the EK Supreme, first off. EK has amazing quality, when i saw the inside of the block i was sold. just amazing. and it suits my application perfectly, single CPU loop.

but then again i really am choosing the EK b/c i already have a DTek, wouldnt mind having another but for a few dollar difference, ill go with the EK for my application.

i wonder whose to blame for this....

Ummm.... however this doesnt look exactly how i wish it would look, but everything else was good:


But finally! someone who gives correct advice! You need to decide via application first not via reputation. 1 h2o loop will always be different then the other unless you have the exact bends and use the EXACT amount of tubing, and your pump is the same bin with the exact same rpm... yada yada yada...


The Enzo cant perform as good as this tho. And i hear some of them are cracking.

More pics for your pleasure. Evil gets a round 2 at it.






I wish i had cute little crystal dolls i could put next to my items in my picture like wind does in the motherboard section

[crash5s]

I sprung for that enzotech block, it looks nice, but the agogee GT still did better in my loop. IMHO great bang for buck block. I've moved the enzo into my media server box and it looks great with the abit 975x board.

[Snyxxx]

Here's a newcommer to the CPU block market but it looks like the bomb...

Enzotech SCW-1 Sapphire CPU Waterblock

Air velocity? Bad Translation?

[Talonman]

A review on theEnzotech SCW-1 Sapphire: http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...ck/index.shtml

[Martinm210]

Martinm210 your looking at making a nozzle kit that fits in a parallel barb which i've never seen??

As i explained in PM, the nozzle kit for the TDX fits into the TDK base but as the MC-TDX pins are as high as the base itself i just don't know how this can be unless you plan for the nozzles to fit into the barb itself which would mean they could fit into any block.................look forward to seeing it though

I had a couple of ideas on the MC-TDX nozzles

-Simple, maybe replace the stock barb with one that is smaller and use a fuzion nozzle, may still need some heatshrink tubing around the nozzle to make it snug.

-Still simple - Machine a brass nozzle to fit precisely into the barb.

-Make a custom G 1/4 barb with a nozzle built in. I've got a G 1/4 die on hand now, so I could just make a new barb with a nozzle (symetrical only) and screw it into place.

-More extreme - machine out a 5/8" countersink into the underside of the acrylic top and make some large shallow nozzle plates to fit between the pins and sit nicely into the top. I have a chunk of 5/8" delrin rod sitting here that would be perfect for it. Then I'd have a huge area I could mak all sorts of nozzles. If I didn't want to mess up the stock top, I could just use some 1/2" lexan I have on hand and make my own top.

-Even more extreme. With a custom top I could make a "Mother of all" Barb for the inlet and fit the nozzle in there.

Plenty of options...

[LockBreaker]

But innstalling the nozzle kit for the D-Tek Fuzion, would'nt that make the Fuzion block restrictive to?

Or is this a misunderstanding?

[Eddy_EK]

Hey.

Few comments.
I am very comfort that Supreme beats the Aquacomputer DI block.
The metal jet plate is laser cut and the edges are discoloured. Nothing to worry
Also all the reviews that have been made shows that Supreme brats the Fuzion for more that 3 °C.

Currently only this one from over-clock3d.net


Beat that 99% if you can
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._water_block/5

[Talonman]

Congratulations Eddy!

Not many others have managed to get an independent site to rate a CPU block higher than the D-tek.

Good job buddy.

[LockBreaker]

And the conclusion is? I'm still wating for a clear reply for if I should go with the EK or the D-Tek CPU-block.

SLI and an overclocked quad core, MCP-655 pump.

[DavidNJ]

Hey.

Few comments.
I am very comfort that Supreme beats the Aquacomputer DI block.
The metal jet plate is laser cut and the edges are discoloured. Nothing to worry
Also all the reviews that have been made shows that Supreme brats the Fuzion for more that 3 °C.

Currently only this one from over-clock3d.net


Beat that 99% if you can
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._water_block/5

Eddy,

1) Are there any other tests of the EK water block?
2) How tall are the ridges in the copper base plate?

Thanks,

David

[Anemone]

Really should be a stock Fuzion v2, if your going to compare.

[septim]

test has been done before V2 fuzion arrived...

maybe andy could test these blocks? if he has the time that is..