Amd Nvidia/Ati -3dmark06 scorebord revisted

[msimax]

updated

nice work guys.
I cant wait to get my board back now

[msimax]

who will show 18k




and if you see ???/.???? that means clocks where missing can you please post them

[Rammsteiner]

Wow, nice score By-tor! Do a Vmod on your 3870's! Just a litytle bit of resistor shading, a bit of tape and 900Mhz+ on your cores.

Now I saw that score, I REALLY cant wait for the few parts I'd like to get soon.

[aGeoM]

Well I did not get my case this weekend, but I gave it a good shot anyway. My top configuration is as follows:

Core 0 - 3300MHz
Core 1 - 3100MHz
Core 2 - 2900MHz
Core 3 - 3000MHz

VCore 1.416

Three-Way Crossfire running at 850/1297

Here are the results:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6672572

Congratulations, man.

[By-Tor]

Nice work Ben....

Wow 3rd place by 2 points.. go figure eh!!!

Looking into a 3rd 3870 right now... But will need to load Vista (yuck) on the rig.



Rammsteiner,

What was the OC on your 9850 for that run?

What do you mean by a bit tape?

[Rammsteiner]

Rammsteiner,

What was the OC on your 9850 for that run?

What do you mean by a bit tape?

It's in the description of the 3Dmark page:
HTT - 217 [12.5xCPU | 11xNB | 9xHT] RAM - 1066 - 5-5-5-15-20 GPU - 904 GDDR - 1251

So 2.7125Ghz CPU and 2.387Ghz NB. No Crossfire though as the card was dead back then. But in the end that OC wasnt stable sadly. So need a new chip and get a better stepping.

By tape I mean to keep the graphite from the pencils there. It sticks pretty well to the PCB already, but with high airflows trough your case it might be blown off by small bits and in the end your resists will rise again and thus make your OC unstable.

[By-Tor]

Ahh I see what the tapes for now.. I don't plan on doing any Volt mods...

Thanks

[Ben_Brown]

Congratulations, man.

Only took an extra 3870 to do it, but thanks!

[Ben_Brown]

who will show 18k




and if you see ???/.???? that means clocks where missing can you please post them

Anyone got an extra Sapphire Toxic HD 3870 laying around anywhere they want to send to me......

[By-Tor]

I was going to ask you to borrow one of yours Ben....or two... lolz...

I wish someone lived close to me that had one for me just to try out with the pair I have already..

[G0ldBr1ck]

Ben_Brown: Wow! 3.3 on 1st core at only 1.4v. You got a good chip man. As for the 3 way crossfire I didnt see much gain at all when i went from 2 to 3 way but hey, Im Glad it worked out so well for you. Way to go!!!!


EDIT: I read an interview with one of the ATI Catalyst Driver developers stating that on the Vista OS There is a limit to how many frames can be pre-rendered ahead of time and cached for faster rendering of the upcoming frame. The problem with that is that the number is only 3 frames, therefore the amount of scaling from 3 to 4 cards in Vista is basicly none. To make things worse he admited that they have yet to find a successful work-around. This was added to vista because of carless game programers in the past were using very large numbers of pre rendered frames that in some way could cause series problems (The type of problems was not mentioned). However a 4th card is able to take the role of handling AA and AF and other filtering.

based on this I would guess that XP would be the OS to use if going for 4 way Crossfire.

[By-Tor]

Ben_Brown: Wow! 3.3 on 1st core at only 1.4v. You got a good chip man. As for the 3 way crossfire I didnt see much gain at all when i went from 2 to 3 way but hey, Im Glad it worked out so well for you. Way to go!!!!


EDIT: I read an interview with one of the ATI Catalyst Driver developers stating that on the Vista OS There is a limit to how many frames can be pre-rendered ahead of time and cached for faster rendering of the upcoming frame. The problem with that is that the number is only 3 frames, therefore the amount of scaling from 3 to 4 cards in Vista is basicly none. To make things worse he admited that they have yet to find a successful work-around. This was added to vista because of carless game programers in the past were using very large numbers of pre rendered frames that in some way could cause series problems (The type of problems was not mentioned). However a 4th card is able to take the role of handling AA and AF and other filtering.

based on this I would guess that XP would be the OS to use if going for 4 way Crossfire.

I read somewhere that XP can only handle 2 GPU's max, and would not be able to use a 3rd or 4th card. Would be nice if this is false, but I don't think it is.

[Ben_Brown]

Ben_Brown: Wow! 3.3 on 1st core at only 1.4v. You got a good chip man. As for the 3 way crossfire I didnt see much gain at all when i went from 2 to 3 way but hey, Im Glad it worked out so well for you. Way to go!!!!

Believe it or not I started out with 1.5 in BIOS and while clocking the cores in AOD it dropped it down to 1.4 with each increment I upped a core. So I just tried it with that and it worked.

[By-Tor]

Hey Ben I'm still shooting for 17k on 2 cards....

[Ben_Brown]

Hey Ben I'm still shooting for 17k on 2 cards....

I hope you can do it. I will be trying a suicide run sometime this week since I just got my new case. Has dropped my temps 6c degrees. CRAZY!!! Maybe it will be more of a stable overclock now....who knows.

[By-Tor]

I have a Swiftech Apogee water block laying around and going to try hooking a hose to the kitchen sink right to the water block and back into the sink. No pumps or rads...just str8 cold water to the CPU...will just have to get the temp of the water as close to room temp as possible. Don't want any condensation..
Or if we get some cool weather this weekend I'll set my rig outsdie the window again with the cables running into the house. Last time I did this with my 6000+ installed and was able to clock it to 3.528 ghz and run benches from there.

It was 6c outside that day...

[GunterFalstaff]

5 G0ldBr1ck hd3870x2 + hd3870 cf ???/???? - Amd Phenom 9850be 3004Mhz 15815

shouldn't this be labeled TCF? hes running 3 3870s

[G0ldBr1ck]

Ya, realy it should be..........However Amd dosent consider it TCF as it is only 2 cards.

[msimax]

I have a Swiftech Apogee water block laying around and going to try hooking a hose to the kitchen sink right to the water block and back into the sink. No pumps or rads...just str8 cold water to the CPU...will just have to get the temp of the water as close to room temp as possible. Don't want any condensation..
Or if we get some cool weather this weekend I'll set my rig outsdie the window again with the cables running into the house. Last time I did this with my 6000+ installed and was able to clock it to 3.528 ghz and run benches from there.

It was 6c outside that day...

hey nice setup.but what do you do when it rains

shouldn't this be labeled TCF? hes running 3 3870s

but he is only running 2 cards. thats just like someone posting 2 9800gx2 ill put it as sli,unless they run three 9800gtx that would be tri sli based on the # of cards running..

[GunterFalstaff]

but he is only running 2 cards. thats just like someone posting 2 9800gx2 ill put it as sli,unless they run three 9800gtx that would be tri sli based on the # of cards running..

Yet AMD sees and x2 and one single gpu card as tri-fire... why else would it be called crossfirex when using an x2 and a single while its only crossfire while using 2 3870's, according to AMD's catalyst control center. When the drivers see it as triple crossfire, it IS triple crossfire. Thats why we couldn't run the x2 with anything else until the 8.3 drivers came around...

[By-Tor]

hey nice setup.but what do you do when it rains


but he is only running 2 cards. thats just like someone posting 2 9800gx2 ill put it as sli,unless they run three 9800gtx that would be tri sli based on the # of cards running..

Its not setting out there for very long trust me....

[G0ldBr1ck]

Yet AMD sees and x2 and one single gpu card as tri-fire... why else would it be called crossfirex when using an x2 and a single while its only crossfire while using 2 3870's, according to AMD's catalyst control center. When the drivers see it as triple crossfire, it IS triple crossfire. Thats why we couldn't run the x2 with anything else until the 8.3 drivers came around...

It seems AMD/ATI has droped the name Crossfire all together with the new Gen. cards. Even 2 cards is Called CroxfireX.

Thats based on reading there defanition of CrossfireX on AMD.game.com (or somthing like that). They say CrossfireX is using 2 or more GPU's.

[Flasker]

Good job msimax
Glad to see this thread going again!


Got a set of OCZ Flex IIs, stuck them into my M3A32-MVP just to see what they would do. How 'bout 600 MHz 3D06 stable with 2.14V!

Here's a quick 06 run on hot air(stock cooler!) with my old 9600 vanilla.

Hmm... wonder what would happen with a 9850?

[msimax]

did you run water through the rams?

[Flasker]

No water, just a fan on top of them.