How long until Asus' "EEE PC" is updated?

[nn_step]

As long as it can render well in 2D, then it will be fine. It's like people demanding to have 9800GX2s in office computers - completely needless, since no one really uses such machines for gaming. So, is Eee PC for gaming? Absolutely no. Can it render well what it should? Yes. The problem?

I am not saying drop a set of 9800GX2s in, I am saying have decent onboard such as 780G and possibly an expansion slot. That isn't exactly a drastically difficult nor expensive thing to do. Also many "Modern" GUIs actually need hardware support for 3D primitives.

[Boissez]

Did I say anything about under $500?

Well if it sold for much more than 500$ it wouldn't be an EEE PC as it would adress an entirely different niche of the market.

What I suggested would be extremely minor changes to the EEE PC aside from a slightly larger cooling solution.

We're talking about 5W vs. 17W TDP respectively for the CPU - do you seriously believe that you'll be able to get away with a slightly modded cooling solution?

Then of course there's the issue of battery life, pcb sizes and such...

[Boissez]

I am not saying drop a set of 9800GX2s in, I am saying have decent onboard such as 780G and possibly an expansion slot. That isn't exactly a drastically difficult nor expensive thing to do. Also many "Modern" GUIs actually need hardware support for 3D primitives.

Realisticly how useful is Beryl or Aero on a 7-10" screen?

People here should stop fretting about the low performance of EEE-like devices. They're not about performance. Period.
What they have to deliver is an adequate performance for the most common tasks, i.e. web browsing, e-mail, office stuff, music and youtubbing. And they have to do so in a low-cost, ultra low power and ultra compact form factor. So while it would be nice to have a nice GFX inside there is just not enough room/power overhead/incentive to fit it inside.

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Realisticly how useful is Beryl or Aero on a 7-10" screen?

People here should stop fretting about the low performance of EEE-like devices. They're not about performance. Period.
What they have to deliver is an adequate performance for the most common tasks, i.e. web browsing, e-mail, office stuff, music and youtubbing. And they have to do so in a low-cost, ultra low power and ultra compact form factor. So while it would be nice to have a nice GFX inside there is just not enough room/power overhead/incentive to fit it inside.

realistically, it is extremely useful but I do admit it isn't the most clock efficient

[WhiteFireDragon]

i have the cheapest EEE version and the HD is only 2gb. i put in an expansion card to save anything. i'm planning to add more memory since it only comes with 512mb. is this even possible with the cheaper version? and is it possible to put regualar laptop processors in there?

[RunawayPrisoner]

The RAM module on the 2G models are soldered in AFAIK, so you are stuck at that. But trust me, if you don't use Photoshop, 512MB is way too much.

For those complaining about the performance of the Eee PC, please be aware that the thing can still play quite a few games, including GTA SA, and with a few tweaks, those games will run nicely as well. If you want something more powerful, I remember Sony offering a Core 2 Duo U7600 laptop with DVD-RW and 945 chipset and a few nicer things... like 11.1" screen. I think that one also has a Lithium Polymer battery pack as opposed to the Lithium Ion battery pack on the Eee PC, so you should get some nice run time. Thing is... it's $2100.

[STEvil]

Well if it sold for much more than 500$ it wouldn't be an EEE PC as it would adress an entirely different niche of the market.

And with what i've suggested a retail price of up to $600 would put it in a nicely competative envelope of everything under $1000 pretty much

We're talking about 5W vs. 17W TDP respectively for the CPU - do you seriously believe that you'll be able to get away with a slightly modded cooling solution?

Yes.

Then of course there's the issue of battery life, pcb sizes and such...

Stacked PCB's can take care of a lot of the issue and why not use a smaller battery in the unit with an available external battery?

[Duh]

my biggest crtic to the first eee pc is that they placed the speakers in a place where it was only meant to take away space for the display..

[WhiteFireDragon]

my biggest crtic to the first eee pc is that they placed the speakers in a place where it was only meant to take away space for the display..

i think that was planned. they did that to hold out on the release of the newer EEE that has the 10" screen

[Frank M]

i think that was planned. they did that to hold out on the release of the newer EEE that has the 10" screen

Or they put it there as that was dead space - the screen already had
to be so wide not to cramp the keyboard.
The 10" prototypes were bigger and slightly different from the start.

Me, I'm waiting for the MSI Wind (the $550 version has 1.6G Atom with
6-cell battery - and supposedly 7hrs battery life; 10", 80GB HDD, xp, etc);
or if Clevo comes out with their Atom-tablet and it has decent specs and
price, then that.


The Atom-based Eee901 is said to be released in early June in Taiwan,
then later on elsewhere, too.


STEvil, not everyone is looking for an ultraportable bench-machine
I'd be happy with a small (useably small), light and durable machine with
long battery life that has enough computing power for work (office, net).

[STEvil]

How does a 1.6 atom compare to VIA's latest @ ~1.5? I saw one of them for sale for $350 today with 80gb drive and 15" 1440x900 LCD among other things.

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How does a 1.6 atom compare to VIA's latest @ ~1.5? I saw one of them for sale for $350 today with 80gb drive and 15" 1440x900 LCD among other things.

It gets outperformed because it is an in-order processor and VIA is an OoO processor

[STEvil]

So the 1.6 Atom is slower than a 1.5 VIA... hmm. Sale's off on the VIA now though lol

[nn_step]

So the 1.6 Atom is slower than a 1.5 VIA... hmm. Sale's off on the VIA now though lol

a 1.5Ghz Via Isiah core, but it is faster than a 1.5Ghz C7 core [except in terms of cryptography]

[Calmatory]

C7 is old. So it is either Atom or Isiah. ...once people can actually GET them.

I'd be more concerned when it comes to TDP, IMO battery life is just as important as the performance. Though, I wouldn't mind if I got Isiah, which is[just an example] 10 % faster but consumes 5 % more.

[filthysanchez]

I just want a decent sized screen and a real keyboard, then I'll buy one.

[Bobsama]

Just bought one. I expect it Wednesday or so. NewEgg--$550 list, $562 shipped. I guess I should post here again when I get it.

[Okda]

anyone got the HP mininote, i think this notebook with an Intel Atom will be much better

[NickS]

Price?

[RunawayPrisoner]

Some benchmark results of the MSI Wind have shown similar CPU power to the current Celeron M in the Eee PC, and 2:20 of battery life under full stress. So again... ehh... like I said before, not even worth an update due to the price difference. Atom is just another marketing ploy of Intel.

[Okda]

Price?

starting from 500$

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...5-3687084.html

[Bobsama]

Got my EeePC 900 12G with Windows XP. It's nice! Very small and light. I won't mind carrying this thing around--it's plenty fast for basic tasks, I don't need it to play games (though I will still be trying to put on a few--SimCity 3000, CnC Generals & Zero Hour, maybe more). $550 list, $562 shipped. Ordered Saturday and it arrived today--I ordered over Memorial Day weekend so it was on-time.