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    64 ROPs ?
    Nope, don't think so.
    Looks like somebody gathered various info available on the net and "compiled" a GPU-z screenshot.

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    Yes, 64 ROPs@695MHz would be overkill even for 160GB/s, but maybe this is Nvidias "fix" for the slow 8xAA resolve
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    I may have missed some posts but wasnt this gonna be 55nm?
    Oh blah?

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    Nope.
    G92b is 55nm.
    GT200 is 65nm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    64 ROPs ?
    Nope, don't think so.
    Looks like somebody gathered various info available on the net and "compiled" a GPU-z screenshot.
    Hmm but maybe this is GPU-Z bug only? Do you emember the GF8600 aka G84 screenshots? GPU-Z showed that it has 64SP even it was real G84 and a few weeks after (in new version of GPU-Z) it showed a correct value - 32SP. Maybe there is the same problem and with newer version of GPU-Z there will be 32ROPs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    Nope.
    G92b is 55nm.
    GT200 is 65nm.
    That would be a shot in the foot.
    That brings GT200 to super die-size, TDP bigger then R600 TDP was and invalidate any X2 variant.
    So GT200 have to fight R700=2xRV770 witch wont be easy to win.
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    GT200 is under 600mm2 ( yes, it's big )
    It'll be a decent heater for those cold winter nights ( more than likely ).
    But it'll be a monster performance-wise.

    And a 55nm refresh shall be out in 3 to 6 months ( as usual )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    GT200 is under 600mm2 ( yes, it's big )
    It'll be a decent heater for those cold winter nights ( more than likely ).
    But it'll be a monster performance-wise.

    And a 55nm refresh shall be out in 3 to 6 months ( as usual )
    By that time ATI could be playing in 45nm, and that&#180;s a whole new story because it&#180;s a new full node and not one half-node of 65nm.

    GT200 could be a monster in performance but don&#180;t forget that it will have to fight R700 witch is 2x RV770. 1GPU versus 2GPU

    But yes it could be a monster in performance single GPU. No doubt about that.
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    Man... If these turn out to be quite a bit better than the G92 then I hope eVGA extends the step up to 4 months again or that it comes out before July 6th!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    GT200 is under 600mm2 ( yes, it's big )
    It'll be a decent heater for those cold winter nights ( more than likely ).
    But it'll be a monster performance-wise.

    And a 55nm refresh shall be out in 3 to 6 months ( as usual )
    Is it 100% confirmed what you`re saying there? Is there any info about refresh too? I mean has your source told you something about GT200@55nm because i think even GT200 is performance monster NVIDIA have to push this GPU in 55nm as fast as they could to reduce production costs.

    BTW. I`ve read on Chiphell Forum that GT200 is about 2xRv770 performance according to reliable sources I hope it`s true.

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    Nothing can be confirmed 100&#37; right now.
    And even if it was possible, it would be very hard ( for the person ) to let it go in public.
    He didn't mention anything about 55nm GT200, but logic says max 6 months after initial release, the 55nm refresh should arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamsleath View Post
    and there was a 9999 also
    that was 6800ultra i think

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    at 600mm2 it will use more power and be hotter than a 2900xt

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    i have the feeling that the single cored 9900gtx will be competitive with the 4870x2
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimREEFER View Post
    i have the feeling that the single cored 9900gtx will be competitive with the 4870x2
    Would be bad for Nvidia if not cause RV770 is said to be ~250mm&#178; while GT200 should be about 500-600mm&#178;. RadenValue770 has other tasks than GT200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill_d View Post
    at 600mm2 it will use more power and be hotter than a 2900xt
    But perform miles faster. I'll take performance over power draw anytime, as would anybody interested in "Xtreme" Systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    Would be bad for Nvidia if not cause RV770 is said to be ~250mm˛ while GT200 should be about 500-600mm˛. RadenValue770 has other tasks than GT200.
    Whether or not that matters depends on pricing. It can go both ways.

    If the 9900GTX is $499, it will need to be faster than a price-cut 9800GX2 to jusify its price. If it is around $399, it has the ability to catch the 4870 off-guard, but presents a dilemma where it would be slower than the 9800 GX2, but significantly faster than one 9800GTX. At $299, it will try to decisively outclass the 9800GTX in an effort for Nvidia to usher in a new 9900GX2 for the performance crown.

    With pricing and final specs in the air, Nvidia has past performance on its back helping it to scare up engineers at AMD into thinking the GT-200 is an insane chip, which is great for us consumers who will get the best performance at the lowest price

    As per ATI pricing and for a glimpse of what kind of performance they are aiming for, the 4870 should end up faster than the 9800 GTX and the 4870 X2 should end up faster than the 9800 GX2. That may be wishful thinking but ATI wants to survive next round that is a bare minimum.

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    The 9900 gtx will be 1gb 512 bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac MM View Post
    The 9900 gtx will be 1gb 512 bit?
    From the Rumors, it seems so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post


    1.6 TeraFLOPS
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    Like I said.
    Somebody "compiled" this screenshot.
    W1zzard, the author of GPU-z confirmed what I said in another thread ( got deleted I think ).

    It's pathetic what people do nowadays to boost their website's traffic

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    Exciting thread!

    More tough decisions to make if building a new rig soon...

    Do i get an 9600GT/ 8800GT to last until the 9900GTX/GTS are out or do I just buy a 8800GTS/9800GTX that will last me a year or more?!

    Damn Technology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    Like I said. Somebody "compiled" this screenshot.
    W1zzard, the author of GPU-z confirmed what I said in another thread ( got deleted I think).
    Hm.. Thank god I'm still hoping/cheering for GDDR5 on that card..

    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    It's pathetic what people do nowadays to boost their website's traffic
    Agreed totally, they should be
    Oh blah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt0m View Post
    Hm.. Thank god I'm still hoping/cheering for GDDR5 on that card..
    Don't raise your hopes ( it wouldn't be beneficial in reality as well ) high enough.
    Because the info regarding the memory used is nearly "concrete". ( fast GDDR3 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Whether or not that matters depends on pricing. It can go both ways.

    If the 9900GTX is $499, it will need to be faster than a price-cut 9800GX2 to jusify its price. If it is around $399, it has the ability to catch the 4870 off-guard, but presents a dilemma where it would be slower than the 9800 GX2, but significantly faster than one 9800GTX. At $299, it will try to decisively outclass the 9800GTX in an effort for Nvidia to usher in a new 9900GX2 for the performance crown.

    With pricing and final specs in the air, Nvidia has past performance on its back helping it to scare up engineers at AMD into thinking the GT-200 is an insane chip, which is great for us consumers who will get the best performance at the lowest price

    As per ATI pricing and for a glimpse of what kind of performance they are aiming for, the 4870 should end up faster than the 9800 GTX and the 4870 X2 should end up faster than the 9800 GX2. That may be wishful thinking but ATI wants to survive next round that is a bare minimum.

    Perkam
    I am just hoping for something that better that I can step up to from a 9800GX2, and that is comes out before June 24.
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    the following is an approximation of my thoughts in july 2008:
    holy crap, 9900gtx is beast. it will cost $599, 4870x2 and 9800gx2 wont touch it, it embodies the change you would expect from a new generation of cards....but it isnt lol, still a geforce 9. expect nvidia to have the best enthusiast card for another year or so. also, on the features front, hardware physics is nice.
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