**Unified** DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R-M2RS / Phenom /Data Base Thread**

[Brother Esau]

Bios's - Drivers - Manuals - Specifications.


Official Bios Releases:

Date Code: 2008/1/30
R7LD130_u.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1、Improved DRAM compatibility for OC function.
2、Add DDR2-1066 MCT timing Select.

Remark :This new update BIOS(2008/01/30) comes with some new features such as “DDR Timing Mode”, therefore the existing CMOS Reloaded setting stored on your motherboard cannot apply to this new update BIOS. Users will need to manually set your overclock setting to this update BIOS and save those setting in CMOS Reloaded to work with this new update BIOS.


2008/1/30 BIOS updates ATI RAID ROM to version 3.1540.21., since the RAID ROM is changed in this 12/11 Beta BIOS, please download the new RAID Driver790FX_RAID_F6.ZIP , and use this new version instead of the previous version on Driver CD.



Date Code: 2008/03/07
R7LD307.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
Update ATI RAID ROM to 3.0.1540.30

Date Code 2008/04/16
R7LD416.zip

Major Reasons of Change:
1.Increase CPU voltage control step by step.
2.Add CPU Voltage Item help string.
3. Fixed “CPU Clock Ratio” item issue for PHENOM CPU.
4. Fixed smoe CPU temperature show error.


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Beta Bios Releases:

The BIOS in this section are Beta and still under evaluation. Please be advised that warranty will be voided for any damages caused by these BIOS on your system and DFI is not liable for such damages.

The Beta's are here for reference and maybe added to or removed based on what is currently on DFI's Global Web Site.

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Date Code: 2008/04/15
R7LD415.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed “CPU Clock Ratio” item issue for PHENOM CPU.
2. Fixed some CPU temperature show error.
3. Added cpu OV warning message.


Date Code: 2008/04/16
R7LD416.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1.Increase CPU voltage control step by step.
2.Add CPU Voltage Item help string.

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[Tony]

don't fall into the **official** mode like on Intel man....means we are more like fanbois again

[Brother Esau]

don't fall into the **official** mode like on Intel man....means we are more like fanbois again

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[Rammsteiner]

Looks fine, but I didnt mind about the official part actually.

I dont mind at all, as long as such nice threads are around Im fine.

Just quit AOD stability test after 2 hours and lowered Voltage to 1.2Vcore read by CPU-Z. Would be nice if it turns out to be stable ghehe.

[Rammsteiner]

I know there's no AutoXpress in BIOS,

But there'some sort of P2P option which enables 'Hyper SLI function' according to Sapphire BIOS manual. Although I guess it should be called CF but well.

[justapost]

I know there's no AutoXpress in BIOS,

But there'some sort of P2P option which enables 'Hyper SLI function' according to Sapphire BIOS manual. Although I guess it should be called CF but well.

This is what autoxpress does:

From wikipedia. Link

I agree with you

"Allowing point-to-point transfer between multiple-video card setup" seems to be related to "P2P b/w Primary/Secondary" in the bios.

[justapost]

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Unified

[stocius]

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I like the "unified" bit, I've finally found a home on the net after being lost in the fanboy wilderness on other forums

[keithlm]

I've finally found a home on the net after being lost in the fanboy wilderness on other forums

Now that is funny. Fanboy wilderness.

Do they eat their own? (I'm guessing "YES".)

[stocius]

Now that is funny. Fanboy wilderness.

Do they eat their own? (I'm guessing "YES".)

YES and fanboys are generally 13 yr old fathers of 3 living on gov't dole, they DO . Even after stating I prefer AMD for what I believe are solid reasons and NOT bashing Intel (though I have solid reasons for doing so IMHO) I would get flamed to no bloody end and I wans't trying to convert anybody. It's like an Intel verbal jihad.

Intel is responsible for global Jihad. and I'm an infidel. I am sure of it.

The above statement is facetious. And I apologize for going off topic, I just had to vent, won't be doing it again

[Iketh]

well something has gone wrong with my setup (check sig, it runs wcg anytime im not rendering video)... been working flawlessly past several months, so much so that i haven't bothered with new bioses or visiting any tech sites....

board gave me a warning, it rebooted randomly on 2 occassions in the last 3 days and got stuck somewhere on bootup (i didnt open case to check the code)... hitting reset returned everything to normal

now this morning i wake up to the same situation, but it's not booting at all... open case to see 8.8. in code... i tried flipping battery upside down for 15 mins.... been messing with it for 2 hours, nothing is working

should i give up and get an RMA? EDIT: i need to do something ASAP, i have work that's not getting done

[Final8ty]

I have been playing some more & have found out on my set-up that
CPU Host/HTT Adjustment Gap 1mhz gives more stable overclocks.
2mhz wont get into windows at same OC & 3 gets into windows but BSOD soon after.

[Morais]

Thanks for the BIOS pics justapost

[justapost]

Sapphire Bios description for their M2R-rebrand
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/driverfiles/417.pdf

Got me by the short hairs on that one Don't know seemed like the thing to do I suppose
Actually been up all night worried about my cat Marshall and have had NO Sleep!

It's hard to distinguish this new thread from the old one. You are movieman's pimp, let him change the word "Official" into "Dedicated".

Thanks for the BIOS pics justapost

You are welcome

[KTE]

I forgot to mention my opinion on this, been busy...

This thread was a ridiculously bad idea! Who the heck thought of this!?


Relax, I'm kiddin

Good work Camp-DFI, just the title needs a bit of flexing IMO... use them abs of yours to push the words around.

Camp-DFI is Cams new official name here FYI

[Rammsteiner]

W00T, nice going there.

By the way, did anyone notice multiplier deviders aren't working on DFI? I tried to run 12.5 multi on NB, but no way the thing booted!

I think I set HEX value correctly. After 0F you continue with 10, 11~1F etc right?

Anyway, Im still in testing progress. But my chip seems to hate high Mhz but loves low Volts lol. And NB ran 2.4Ghz stock Vnb 7 hour AOD stability test without issues.

[Rammsteiner]

System is already testing for 1.5 hours AOD stability test.

2.7Ghz with CPU-Z reporting 1.248Vcore, AOD says 1.2375Vcore. 2.4Ghz NB at stock Vnb. Load is like 34C. Ill keep on going like this for a while. I still hope for a better OC's although Ive to be honest such a cool running Phenom is just awesome.

I just did some re-reading things and Ill try at some point HT multi at 7 and check HTref out again. Apparently dropping HT multi might push HTT OC's, but no multi OC'ing or something.

[dng]

this thread is awesome. i got my dfi 790fx m2rs board coming. i can't wait to play with it. anyone here running 8gigs of memory with this board? just wondering if it has issue with running max memory. i hope more people will contribute to this thread. thanks again brother.

[justapost]

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.0Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,351V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,15V (Bios) 1,144V (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 63°C coredamage, 60°C max prime95
Prime Time: 22hrs

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.2Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,354V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,25V (Bios) ? (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 63°-64°C coredamage, 62°C max prime95
Prime Time: 12hrs

I use the following procedure for stability testing.

1. Sandra Memory Latency (that triggers a freeze here very quickly)
2. CoreDamage for a few minutes to see what temps i will get
3. Prime95 together with 3dmark06, to generate a very high power consumption
4. Prime95 longtest
5. Application testing (Surfing, Openoffice, Antivir) for a while.

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.4Ghz

1.3125V: passed 1, power off at coredamage
1.325V: passed 1, power off at coredamage
1.35V: passed 1 and 2, failed prime95 immediate
1.3625V: passed 1 and 2, failed prime95 after 3mins
1.3875V: passed 1 and 2,3 power off during prime run after ~30mins.
1.4V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after 48mins
1.4125V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after 4:50hrs
1.425V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after 5:30hrs

Trying with 1.35V CPU-VID

1.35V: prime failed immediate
1.375V: prime failed immediate

Back to 1.3125V CPU-VID

1.4325V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after ~9hrs

With this high NB voltage I get temps up to 66°C (cpu). All those latest tests failed on the second core. This core is not a weak one, on the M3A I could run 3GHz on that core with ~1.35V. If I use too low CPU-VID prime95 normaly fails on the weaker cores 3 and 4. I suspect core 2 does not like high temperatures.

Trying with 1.325V CPU-VID

1.4325V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after ~13hrs

[justapost]

W00T, nice going there.

By the way, did anyone notice multiplier deviders aren't working on DFI? I tried to run 12.5 multi on NB, but no way the thing booted!

I think I set HEX value correctly. After 0F you continue with 10, 11~1F etc right?

Anyway, Im still in testing progress. But my chip seems to hate high Mhz but loves low Volts lol. And NB ran 2.4Ghz stock Vnb 7 hour AOD stability test without issues.

Your NB works alot better than mine here. I played with the NB-DID while i was tweaking p-states. Anything beside 1 as a divider did not work here also.

System is already testing for 1.5 hours AOD stability test.

2.7Ghz with CPU-Z reporting 1.248Vcore, AOD says 1.2375Vcore. 2.4Ghz NB at stock Vnb. Load is like 34C. Ill keep on going like this for a while. I still hope for a better OC's although Ive to be honest such a cool running Phenom is just awesome.

I just did some re-reading things and Ill try at some point HT multi at 7 and check HTref out again. Apparently dropping HT multi might push HTT OC's, but no multi OC'ing or something.

I reached around 270MHz ref HT wise but with not so high CPU multis (~11). With higher multis I can use up to 260MHz.
My 9600BE topped out at around 285MHz.

[justapost]

Lowest [/B] voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.0Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,351V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,15V (Bios) 1,144V (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 63°C coredamage, 60°C max prime95
Prime Time: 22hrs

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.2Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,354V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,25V (Bios) ? (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 63°-64°C coredamage, 62°C max prime95
Prime Time: 12hrs

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.4Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,356V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,4325V (Bios) ? (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 65°-66°C coredamage, 66°C max prime95
Prime Time: failed after ~9hrs (with 1.35V CPU-VID after 15hrs)

I don't want to use such a high NB voltage so I will not run my nb with a 12x multi.

Lowest voltages for 2.9Ghz/2.2Ghz

Starting with CPU-VID 1,35V and NB-VID 1,25V

1,35V passed 1-3 and primed for 15min
1,325V passed 1-3 and primed for 1:33min
1,3125V passed 1-3 failed prime95 after 1hr
1,31825V passed 1-3 failed prime95 after 0:51hrs
1,325V passed 1-3 failed prime95 after 8:31hrs
1,33125V passed 1-3 and priming since 5hrs

This looks very pleasent here seems i can run 2.9GHz at a slightly higer voltage (+0.0125V) i required for 2.8GHz. Yesterday I tried a few different methods of applying TIM. I gained ~3°C better temps with a thicker layer of AS5. So currently it looks like it's very essential to keep the temps below 60°C.

[Rammsteiner]

Nice write up of your results justapost.

Looks like Phenom differs a lot regarding Voltage requirements and Mhz yield.

Also I think BIOS's are still NOT optimized completely to get the best out of Phenom. For example, Tony's Phenom article over at TTR. 790FX-DQ6 did very nice with HTT, but DFI didnt.

HTT has, as far as Im aware, nothing to do with the CPU. So I really think this is a BIOS problem. At least, I hope. Otherwise the board wouldnt be able to handle it. But that's not making a lot of sense since I could hit minimal 290Mhz with a X2 plugged in. But tbh, I didnt do a lot of testing with HTT clocking though. But whether HTT clocking can be fixed by BIOS or not, if we look at DDR1066 mode OCíng it's still very clear BIOS's need some fine tuning.

So lets hope for a better BIOS soon shall we.

Also, I was wondering since people talk about 'Red mode' etc in AOD... It seems it enables some sort of faster CF mode or so, is this possible to set by BIOS too?

[Rammsteiner]

After 4 hours of AOD stability test I quit it. 1.248Vcore by CPU-Z seems stable!

Testing 1.21Vcore by CPU-Z now. If that's stable Im at one side very pleased and on the other side pissed as . I mean, I prefer running 1.3V and hitting 2.8Ghz~2.9Ghz over 1.21V or even lower and only 2.7Ghz anytime. On the otherhand, maybe heat was an issue after all and now I know it does such low Volts it might do better.

[justapost]

Have you tried CoreDamade Rammsteiner? That tool heats up the cpu very quickly. I get CPU-Temps around 65°C after two minutes. My coretemps are ~7°C below the cpu temp btw.

Nice write up of your results justapost.

Thanks, you are welcome

Looks like Phenom differs a lot regarding Voltage requirements and Mhz yield.

Also I think BIOS's are still NOT optimized completely to get the best out of Phenom. For example, Tony's Phenom article over at TTR. 790FX-DQ6 did very nice with HTT, but DFI didnt.

For good ref HT results I used DFI 307 bios other versions did not run stable above 250MHz.

HTT has, as far as Im aware, nothing to do with the CPU. So I really think this is a BIOS problem. At least, I hope. Otherwise the board wouldnt be able to handle it. But that's not making a lot of sense since I could hit minimal 290Mhz with a X2 plugged in. But tbh, I didnt do a lot of testing with HTT clocking though. But whether HTT clocking can be fixed by BIOS or not, if we look at DDR1066 mode OCíng it's still very clear BIOS's need some fine tuning.

Hmm my testings clearly showed that the max ref HT is cpu dependant. Of course also bios dependant.
Same with X2's, reached ~392MHz with an BE2400 and ~405MHz with an 4850e on the M3A.

Also, I was wondering since people talk about 'Red mode' etc in AOD... It seems it enables some sort of faster CF mode or so, is this possible to set by BIOS too?

No the current DFI and Sapphire bioses do not have so called AutoXPress settings in the bios.

[Jimmer411]

Big DFI fanboy here too


I was wondering how well is phenom overclocking without AOD? Im more old school and prefer bios overclocking only