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Thread: Roundup Water-Block ( EK, D-Tek, ApogeeGT, XWB-01) who is better ? (56k Warning!)

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    Roundup Water-Block ( EK, D-Tek, ApogeeGT, XWB-01) who is better ? (56k Warning!)

    Hello all, This week in Thailand are Long weekend on Songkran festival so i have more time for playing something without my job and after long time for muster Water-Block from around the world because in Thailand only have Swiftech on sale so lasted is i received WB it is EK-Supreme.... ok now i already 4th of water-block are popular

    1. D-Tek FuZion + Nozzle kit
    2. EK-Supreme
    3. Swiftech Apogee GT
    4. Thermalright XWB-01



    For method is i measure of temperature i used of two way 1st i used CoreTemp, 2nd i used probe on CPU IHS


    other device in the system on testing

    Radiator from BlackIce Extreme Flow + Silverstone FM123 ~2600rpm and suction install


    Pump from Swiftech MCP355+XSPC top


    Water Tube by GIGABYTE it real 1/2" ID


    Setup...


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    Burn full load by Prime95 30min on In-place Large subject and MX-2 thermal Compound on all testing

    Results...

    EK Supreme



    Full Load

    Idle


    D-Tek + 5.5mm/4.5mm Nozzle




    Full Load@5.5mm Nozzle


    Idle@5.5mm Nozzle


    Full Load@4.5mm Nozzle

    Idle@4.5mm Nozzle


    Swiftech Apogee GT



    Full Load

    Idle


    Thermalright XWB-01



    Full Load

    Idle
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    Graph Results

    Measure by Core Temp read temperature from log file, find max and min for plot graph


    Measure by Probe on CPU-IHS



    btw. sorry for more and large of picture
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    Specials Thanks.... Nosfer@tu from OCTDenmark is help for EK Supreme, Reservoir and XSPC top :cheers:
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    wow nice review. thanks +1

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    Awesome! To bad all these blocks have bad flow - maybe not the Apogee GT..

    And first time to see nozzled fuzion against EK supreme!

    Thumps up!
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    Nice testing results but disappointed to see no test with the quad nozzle since you have a quad core cpu.

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    thats some nice results..
    it would be nice to have a 3.6mm nozzle included and see if that offers any improvements..

    is it me or does the EK supreme look slightly bowed? anyway the contact seems to be very good on the IHS.

    any1 can make a guess of nozzled bowed Fuzion vs bowed EK supreme?

    thanx for the testing
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    Can I ask where you got those self tightening clamps?

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    Odd that no springs were used on the Thermalright block... kinda makes mount consistency fly out the window...

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    Also, from the look of the wc blocks, you covered the ihs with TIM, not the single line of TIM, and let the wc block spread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis86 View Post
    thats some nice results..
    it would be nice to have a 3.6mm nozzle included and see if that offers any improvements..

    is it me or does the EK supreme look slightly bowed? anyway the contact seems to be very good on the IHS.

    any1 can make a guess of nozzled bowed Fuzion vs bowed EK supreme?

    thanx for the testing
    Yes for contact of Supreme have a little bowed, from i checked 3x Supreme in my hand it same all and D-Tek is contact good level from all

    Quote Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman View Post
    Can I ask where you got those self tightening clamps?
    You mean clamps is i tightening on tube right ? if yes, it bundle from TR XWB-01

    Quote Originally Posted by nikhsub1 View Post
    Odd that no springs were used on the Thermalright block... kinda makes mount consistency fly out the window...
    aha spring are longer it can't used on Thermalright block, i think it not problem
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    thanks for the review, good work
    You confirmed what we knew all along..
    I really like the look of those silver clamps your using on the fuzion, where can I get those?

    *edit nevermind, It seems like you already answered that question

    here is a link to anybody else interested
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22461
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    Thats it, my Apogee GT is geting replaced by a Supreme.

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    Did you Bow the Apogee? I definitely saw an improvement when I bowed it.
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    Going from a bowed gt to a supreme is pointless in terms of overclocking, since 4c higher cannot get you better overclocks as opposed to 4c less.
    The gt is also less restrictive than the ek, so if you add mutliple blocks to the loop, who knows what the temp difference would be then.
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    Nice work!!!!

    Thanks for sharing the results!

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    For the RECORD.

    Can we say Naekuh is hearing Deja Vou?

    Also FOR THE RECORD.

    The EK performs better with more flow up to the equivalant of an RD-30 @ 21V which is roughly = to 2 ddc's in a series. [Martin also tested the Rd-30 @ 21V with my hypothesis, and agree'd that this could be the top apex in performance/voltage for this pump on on some blocks, provided you had the radiator to help dish out the added heat from the pump!]

    Anyhow, Thanks for your results, now im glad i have a point of reference to direct people to.

    also i noted that the EK @ 21V will pull ~3-5C ahead of my BOWED copper top GTX@ 18V. The ApogeeGTX wont experience a performance increase @ 21V. This is why i bought 2 EK's. You cant beat them with the right pressure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tw1st3d View Post
    Awesome! To bad all these blocks have bad flow - maybe not the Apogee GT..

    And first time to see nozzled fuzion against EK supreme!

    Thumps up!
    Sorry if they did have nice flow, they wouldnt be up here to begin with. I think you missed the point in having accelerators.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xilikon View Post
    Nice testing results but disappointed to see no test with the quad nozzle since you have a quad core cpu.
    Wouldnt matter. Because the quad nozzle isnt as focused as the 4.5mm. And the EK is still keeping up with the 4.5mm nozzle. Hence you'd get a more even temp across the floor with the quad, yet the concentration velocity and performance would be lessened.


    @Nikhsub1: Scott see i told you, your block is probably borked hence why you been getting really bad results.
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    now I am anxious to set up my EK with my RD-30

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    Quote Originally Posted by phelan1777 View Post
    now I am anxious to set up my EK with my RD-30
    Remember phelan when playing with that pump voltage, it can take about 3-5 min to see a effect.
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    Why don't you add the italian Ybris ACS on the test???
    there are some test on the net...
    http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=462979
    Regards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    Remember phelan when playing with that pump voltage, it can take about 3-5 min to see a effect.
    effects in temps of CPU or the heat dump from the pump?

    Yeah I am familiar with the pump (been running one for over a year now). I just picked up a second one :P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPulcy View Post
    Why don't you add the italian Ybris ACS on the test???
    there are some test on the net...
    http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=462979
    Regards...
    because for his tests to be accurate, he needs the block.

    Unless you want to loan him the block, or he asks for suggestions on additional blocks, its not nice to ask a review how come this or that wasnt included, unless its a test methodolgy that wont require many many hours of work.

    He cant just drop the data in there as well, because it would screw the rest of his data. Watercooling systems are unique in each build because its almost impossible to dulplicate your results on different beds. Nikhsub1 can tell you more detail in it, as he is working very hard on a data bank for such a test.


    @Phelan, LOL, as in overall, because for you to get better temps, your coolant temps need to be better, and that can take some time to knock off. Remember it takes 350W of energy to change water temp 1C @ 1.5gpm. Its funny but not a lot of people can visualize that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cptn Vortex View Post
    Did you Bow the Apogee? I definitely saw an improvement when I bowed it.
    Yah for my ApogeeGT it have little bowed too but for my ApogeeGTX it very bowed so i then not use it in this tested

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPulcy View Post
    Why don't you add the italian Ybris ACS on the test???
    there are some test on the net...
    http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=462979
    Regards...
    Hohoho... please reading in first post i base in Thailand and here have only Swiftech product for sell, for other brand it not have sell if needed only import
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    ZoLKoRn, which jet plate did you use for Supreme ?
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