My Dual Harper - Asus Z7S WS living review *56K warning*

[angelshonnny]

Sorry to hear that
What does the debug card say?

The debug doesn't even come on, only the LED on the mb

That really s..ks.
your CPU cooling was still up and running ?
A year back my pump died, and 2 minutes after my CPU also

Yes, cooling was fine, was around 40 and 45c when i restarted if i can remember correctly. Have to lend a powersupply from a friend of mine and start the elimination process

[[XC] serlv]

My freaking Z7S system has taken a schiite, as well. Initial investigation and attempts to revive have yielded no improvement. I don't have the time for this right now. Funny, it has happened since Dave got here.
( I'm messing with ya, Dave. I know you had nothing to do with it. )

Anyway, what is dismaying, in the extreme, is that these bastages, are well- over-$400 friggin' mobos. We are not talking cheap, here. Well, at least not in the amount of cash that Anus has extracted from us.

[[XC] mysticmerlin]

This is a 3pic 3pidemic!

[Jaco]

My freaking Z7S system has taken a schiite, as well. Initial investigation and attempts to revive have yielded no improvement. I don't have the time for this right now. Funny, it has happened since Dave got here.
( I'm messing with ya, Dave. I know you had nothing to do with it. )

Anyway, what is dismaying, in the extreme, is that these bastages, are well- over-$400 friggin' mobos. We are not talking cheap, here. Well, at least not in the amount of cash that Anus has extracted from us.

Something stinks with this board - when mine is back from RMA maybe I'll sell it and get a SM board

[jcool]

Dayum... what the hell is wrong with these things :/
I don't think I'll ever reboot mine, 5 weeks 3 days and counting...

What exactly did you guys do just before it died? Reboot? I think it's better to shut it off completely and then power back on.

[angelshonnny]

Ok, here goes. Before i left the house yesterday, I moved the jumper to clear CMOS and left it there, and removed the battery. When i got home I powered on the system, but forgot about the jumper. So i pulled the PSU plug, moved the jumper and pluged the PSu again. Tried the power button on the GP card,nothing, then I saw that I only put the jumper on one of the pins( thats what you get from being too lazy to put the case on a table so you can see whats going on inside) so I moved the jumper without pulling the PSU plug, and the system powered on POST said that system recovered from failed overclock. Then I Loaded defaults, disabled C1E and Speedstep and enabled Snoopfilter. Then i tried to go into Hardware monitor to disable Smartfan, but as soon as I pressed Enter at HM it froze, then after about a minute HM opened and it showed CPU 0's Vcore lighted up in red 0,44something, then I tried to scroll down to CPU1, the it froze again and never recovered, even after 10min. I had to pull the PSU plug. Plugged the PSU again an tried the power and button on the GP card and the case power button, again noting Ok, so I followed the same procedure as above and got it running again. Bios recognises both cpus and all the ram. I left the BIOS as it was, just F10 and enter. Windows loaded but it was running incredibly slow. Took almost 5min for Prime95 to open, so I thought that BIOS must have reset SF, C1E and EIST because it froze Restarted Vista and the same Fg thing. Got it to power on. F1 to enter setup, re-flashed the BIOS, ''flash succesfull will restart in 5sec' Then it froze there again

jcool Dayum... what the hell is wrong with these things :/
I don't think I'll ever reboot mine, 5 weeks 3 days and counting...

What exactly did you guys do just before it died? Reboot? I think it's better to shut it off completely and then power back on.

My wife was using Office and the net, so thats not the problem. She just said that it shut down twice during the day, so I don't really know what it could have been, I mean it was running problem free for 3 days with great performance for rendering. But after the shutdowns she had, CPU-Z only showed 6 cores Thats when i rebooted and lowered fsb to 400 x 7,5 with no power on after that. I'm so damn frustrated, think I'll maybe get the SM if I can get this piece of running and sold. Any suggestions? What about starting all over again, I mean removing everything again

[D_A]

I thought powering on with the reset jumper in place was, like, suicide for a mobo. I think all mine have dirty big warnings not to do it in the manual.

[STEvil]

I think we need to contact Asus... someone high up.

What is the official tally of dead boards?

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EDIT - D A, that was 939 DFI boards where you didnt want to power up with the jumper in the reset position.

[D_A]

I have an [STRIKE]Anus[/STRIKE] Asus and an Asrock here (both 939s) that say the same thing.

[STEvil]

I have an [STRIKE]Anus[/STRIKE] Asus and an Asrock here (both 939s) that say the same thing.

They just wont POST or will not hold BIOS settings is all.

The DFI is because it would feed 3.3v to the memory or something along those lines.

[angelshonnny]

I thought powering on with the reset jumper in place was, like, suicide for a mobo. I think all mine have dirty big warnings not to do it in the manual.

I know, but I forgot the first time, but then I got the thing to power up that way, so I tried again

I think we need to contact Asus... someone high up.

What is the official tally of dead boards?

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EDIT - D A, that was 939 DFI boards where you didnt want to power up with the jumper in the reset position.

That would help to get hold of the 'Bosses' anyone got their phone number?
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[STEvil]

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

There, thread up on Asus Z7S-WS forum. Its a start. Dave, is anyone from Asus at CES?

[Jaco]

jaco -1

[Madman666]

Guys, one word and one type number:
SuperMicro X7DWA-N

Can hit 430FSB easily :P
Rock solid realibilty

Mmmm, might be interesting.
I however have some questions on this board:
1. BIOS OC: what are the possible CPU and Memory settings (can I see a screendump) ?
2. CPU placement: are the CPU retention brackets included ?
3. How do you cool your memory and NB ?
4. PCI-U ? = can I see this as a PCI-E 8x slot for placing my Adaptec 5805 RAID controller?

What do you think are the cons of this mobo ? Any wishes ?
Any Bios glitches ?

Thnx for your input

[s0lid]

Mmmm, might be interesting.
I however have some questions on this board:
1. BIOS OC: what are the possible CPU and Memory settings (can I see a screendump) ?
2. CPU placement: are the CPU retention brackets included ?
3. How do you cool your memory and NB ?
4. PCI-U ? = can I see this as a PCI-E 8x slot for placing my Adaptec 5805 RAID controller?

What do you think are the cons of this mobo ? Any wishes ?
Any Bios glitches ?

Thnx for your input

1. No bios OC, only thru setfsb
2. Yup SM always includes retention brackets
3. Fans?
4. PCI-U is an special pci-e 8x slot for SMs raid cards and such, works nicely as normal slot.

Well SMs bioses are server&workstation quality so there is rly no glitches.

[angelshonnny]

@STEvil
I can see in the Asus thread that tou have BIOS 0302, is that correct and if so, is there a reason you don't have 0401?

Got this thing going again. When I left for school this morning, I left the CMOS jumper in reset position. Got home, pluged the PSU in and changed the jumper back, it posted fine but I just loaded defaults and let it load vista. I was too scared to go into BIOS to change all the settings again. It doesn't detect my IDE DVD, or any USB devices, except the keyboard cause that was connected when i booted,and it doesn't want to load Asus Probe. Now I see CPU-Z shows all 8 cores again, CPU#1 is running at 2,5GHz x 7,5 multiplier, but CPU#2 is only running at 2GHz x 6 multiplier and it shows Vcore 0,96V Would post screenshots, but I don't know how? I ran cinebench and it took 4m10s to run the mutiple cpu test, it took 37 sec before. I'm too scared to shut down because I have my 3D program, Revit running. I have exams on Tuesday, so I need it to stay on till then, and then I have 3 weeks holiday to sort this sht out.

[s0lid]

Would post screenshots, but I don't know how?

Ctrl + Print Screen then paste into paint :P

[angelshonnny]

Ctrl + Print Screen then paste into paint :P

Ok That part I know, just don't know how to upload them

[s0lid]

Ok That part I know, just don't know how to upload them

xs.to <- teh best
imageshack.com
photobucket.com <-good too :P

[jcool]

@STEvil
I can see in the Asus thread that tou have BIOS 0302, is that correct and if so, is there a reason you don't have 0401?

Got this thing going again. When I left for school this morning, I left the CMOS jumper in reset position. Got home, pluged the PSU in and changed the jumper back, it posted fine but I just loaded defaults and let it load vista. I was too scared to go into BIOS to change all the settings again. It doesn't detect my IDE DVD, or any USB devices, except the keyboard cause that was connected when i booted,and it doesn't want to load Asus Probe. Now I see CPU-Z shows all 8 cores again, CPU#1 is running at 2,5GHz x 7,5 multiplier, but CPU#2 is only running at 2GHz x 6 multiplier and it shows Vcore 0,96V Would post screenshots, but I don't know how? I ran cinebench and it took 4m10s to run the mutiple cpu test, it took 37 sec before. I'm too scared to shut down because I have my 3D program, Revit running. I have exams on Tuesday, so I need it to stay on till then, and then I have 3 weeks holiday to sort this sht out.

I guess you need to go into nbios and load the defaults or something...
Also make sure SF Bypass is set to enabled as it cripples the system's performance otherwise.

Oh yeah, jcool -1 ^^

[STEvil]

I had 0401.

030x never gave me issues (other than no post with E0 CPU's at BIOS defaults and no vcore control), could it be 0401 killing the boards?

[Jaco]

I had 0401.

030x never gave me issues (other than no post with E0 CPU's at BIOS defaults and no vcore control), could it be 0401 killing the boards?

I have been thinking the same thing.
All was fine prior bios 0401 with my C0 cpu's.
My E5450's E0 wouldn't work with the earlier bios though.

The vcore implementation killing the boards?

[STEvil]

I dont see how it could be, I never adjusted mine above default except once for a while, then it was back to default long before it died (2-3 weeks or so).

[Madman666]

1. No bios OC, only thru setfsb
2. Yup SM always includes retention brackets
3. Fans?
4. PCI-U is an special pci-e 8x slot for SMs raid cards and such, works nicely as normal slot.

Well SMs bioses are server&workstation quality so there is rly no glitches.

Thnx !
Just send out another complaint (technical reequest) to Asus concerning the BIOS. Depending on their reply I will decide to wether or not change mobo.

[STEvil]

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