Has Phenom been ready since day 1 ???
Are the mobo manufacturer's and M$ in COLLUSION , w/ the intel smell?
It wouldn't surprise me.
Has Phenom been ready since day 1 ???
Are the mobo manufacturer's and M$ in COLLUSION , w/ the intel smell?
It wouldn't surprise me.
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I don't understand the meaning of this post. Care to enlighten?
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WTF is this about? Makes no sense at all "Step away from the bong "
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Nono... pass the bong to me then step away... slowly.
Didn't MS just drio their Vista compatible thingy. Yeah wtf are you talking about? If AMD did something mobo manufacturers would step it up. AMD would design the chipset and the processor not sure how anyone is keeping them down here. They did just buy ATI a while ago too.
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XP SP3 / vista SP1 and forcing the "TLB fix" to on regardless of bios settings is a bit on the iffy side (supposed to only happen on the B2 but I think someone said it was affecting even his B3). That's the only somewhat suspicious thing I see.
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Intel and M$ apologists please refrain from posting in this thread.
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if what he is refering to has anything to do with the last thread on this subject then i am all for it.
two of them inside the black expanse of there worlds.
its all there fault really, hears hopeing it turns out well.
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You know, there is a reason why most of computer history has been called the Wintel dynasty. And yes, the mobo makers will drag there feet when it comes to support for anyone that isn't Intel, or the top end on performance. You can see that on lack of support for Phenom in certain am2 board bios's. Well, not certain, the vast majority. Now as far as XP sp3, I know the final rc I have didn't have the tlb fix. If the release version does, I'm betting there is some kind of a registry key or something in the admin rights that needs to be changed to disable it. Probably the same for Vista.
But, theres been BS going on for a loooong time in the computer industry even before phenom.
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TLB patch isn't on on my Vista and Server 08 systems by default.
But I did think Microsoft took for freaking ever to get anything done on XP64 when AMD launched their A64 chips. They barely did anything until Intel started having good 64-bit support.
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As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
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Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
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Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I'd say the drivers held up XP64 more than Microsoft did. Hell, people still don't always have drivers for Vista 64 and they knew it was gonna be 64 from day one. I really hope their next OS doesn't ship as a 32bit version.Originally Posted by Particle
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then post something constructive or do something.
doing stuff like this should warrant a nice vacation from here imo.
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oli_ramsay, you are off to a very bad move.
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