X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

[neo_rtr]

@greg.m,
thank for posting your oc results. As I see do you have a Q9650 and a ATI 4820X2 video card.
Many friends of mine told me that the X48 chip plus a quad needs a hell of a lot voltage to the nb being prime95 or LinX 0.5.8 stable.
This "hell of a lot voltage" should be about 1.5v and more.
Would you say that´s true?
How much voltage did you take on the NB to get your oc stable?

I would say thats very true as iam braking my head to figure it out.
I even push it 1.55v only to shut down the pc once LinX is running

[neo_rtr]

QX6700 Asus Rampage 0803 Bios Settings


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2009-05-15


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2009-05-15


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2009-05-15


By neo_rtr at 2009-05-15


By neo_rtr at 2009-05-15


By neo_rtr at 2009-05-15 Will have to work with the timings

Lower Volt Prime95 stable Small and Large FTTs with total test time about 2hrs-

A-Grey, is there any possibility for me to run tight timming and get some better memory speed? 5-5-5-12 is not giving much. What do you think i i should try?

[Alien Grey]

Did you try with 8 X 450MHz - FSB Strap to North Bridge 333MHz - DDR 1081MHz and PL 7?

[neo_rtr]

Did you try with 8 X 450MHz - FSB Strap to North Bridge 333MHz - DDR 1081MHz and PL 7?

I been running it like this for over a year.

This 9x400 is to lower some volts and because i had few issues.

I also want to see if my hd4870x2 is effected out of some unbalance of fsb, NB vots .

[neo_rtr]

for example 1:1 800mhz

By neo_rtr at 2009-05-15
not that great
I did try some lower 4-4-4-10

This other one is 4-4-4-12

By neo_rtr at 2009-05-15

I also try to boot at 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 -with lower than 45 i run of it today with no luck

[Alien Grey]

I been running it like this for over a year.

This 9x400 is to lower some volts and because i had few issues.

I also want to see if my hd4870x2 is effected out of some unbalance of fsb, NB vots .

Using FSB Strap to North Bridge 400MHz didn't let me lower my voltages. It just let me run DDR 1199MHz and tRD 6 with the same voltage that I was using with FSB Strap to North Bridge 333MHz and DDR 1081MHz with tRD 7.

I think that there isn't much you can do to have better performance with the hardware that you have available.

I don't know if you live far away from greg.m?

Maybe you can ask him nicely if you could borrow his G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI memory to see if you could run it at DDR 1199MHz and tRD 6.

He seems a nice guy to me and let you do that to see how it runs.

If you can run it stable with DDR 1199MHz and tRD 6 the 2 x 2 Giga OCZ Blade PC2-9600 might be your solution. We need to know of course if this memory can run at 1200MHz without problems on the Maximus/Rampage Formula.

I think that the 2 X 2 Giga OCZ Blade PC2-9600 are going to be a lot cheaper than the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI.

That's one solution.

The second solution is to sell your QX6700 and buy a Q9XXX but then you would like to know if your board likes to run with a Q9XXX at FSB 450MHz.

If greg.m is really a nice guy he might let you try that too.

[neo_rtr]

The second solution is to sell your QX6700 and buy a Q9XXX but then you would like to know if your board likes to run with a Q9XXX at FSB 450MHz.

If greg.m is really a nice guy he might let you try that too.

He is a nice guy. The best.. I know him and he is a good friend

Iam on the path for a new Q9xxx series.
I was thinking like 5-5-5-x (different than 45) but i did try that out and i would not boot.

Everytime i do something i screw something else hehe. So i will leave it to that for now.

Ps. Greg is going to start his 1st job with HW, build, troubleshooting etc in few months.
I wish him good luck and all the best.

[RedBull1985]

Is the Gigabyte EP45-UD3P a better shot than this one? seeing some of the OCs it has attained, i am forced to think so.So, where is this board claiming the much higher price tag?

[Alien Grey]

It's quite simple. We bought an excellent board with a Chipset that Intel designed to get the best performance. The only problem that we've got is that this board came with the wrong BIOS.

The BIOS that we've got on our board isn't the type of BIOS you expect to have on a X48 R.O.G. board. The BIOS hides all the fun stuff that can give us the best performance and stability.

Poor GTL handling. Lack of proper tREF handling. To large increments that makes it hard to fine tune your settings. In one word "GARBAGE".

This is the kind of BIOS that you suspect on the low end boards to have some basic tweaking on that board but not a R.O.G board.

The ASUS Engineer told me that he can understand that we want the best performance from what he says a R.O.G. board but there isn't much that he can do because it isn't him who decides what should be done or what shouldn't be done. There's always that guy at ASUS who thinks that this is all a waste of money and valuable time that should be spend on their new boards.

So, you ask why we have to pay so much more?

Well, we paid so much for that board because ASUS is going to need that money when we don't buy there Enthusiast products anymore.

That's what's going to happen and ASUS is going to realize this when it's to late and I hope that the guy who always thinks that everything is a waste of money and valuable time that he is the first one that can look for an other job.

[Fritz_the_germ]

Yoh guys,
Yoh Alien Grey,
I hope you don´t go crazy reading an other ASUS reply. A few days ago I wrote them:

I regret that you missed the point again. I am overclocking computers for many years.
So I don´t need any repetitional lessons how to ajust the RAM voltage, timings or
anything else about this.
If you are not able to handle my detailed problem report why don´t you just send it to
the department that has to do with bios programming?
There is no sens to ignore all these ASUS customers, except you want to get rid of
them. Just read the following sites and realize the topic by yourself:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?
id=20090504152913315&board_id=1&model=Rampage+Form ula&page=1&SLang
uage=en-us
At last I want to please you in the name of all the customers: Send my mail
including the link to the bios department of ASUS. We all hope the engineers will take notice of this problem to create a better bios.

ASUS replied again:

Dear Fritz,

Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is XXX and it's my pleasure to help you with your problem.

I can give you some personal advice. But the overclocking issue is beyond our service. To overclock(RAM over 1200MHz), we cannot guard success for you. We cannot guard how far you can overclock. You need to try it yourself.


P.S. You can get the RAMs work at 1200MHz(O.C speed too). So, the motherboard and BIOS are OK.
Welcome to refer Troubleshooting & FAQ for ASUS products in ASUS website:
http://support.asus.com/troubleshoot...Language=en-us
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

If having any problems, please don't hesitate to let me know. Let's discuss this
issue together.
Thank you for using ASUS products and enjoying ASUS services!

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Isn´t that a shame?
I don´t know what else I can do beside taking my 45 out of the drawer

[Alien Grey]

@Roger_D25

Still interested in buying the 4 X 1 Giga Corsair 1250MHz 5-5-5-15 Timings to see if you can get a stable run at that speed?

When ASUS doesn't see a problem when you try to OverClock the G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI maybe they will see a problem when you can't run the 4 X 1 Giga Corsair 1250MHz 5-5-5-15 Timings memory stable from the QVL.

[screwtech02]

I'm tellin ya, Asus Bios Engineering=EPIC FAIL.........

I also have the same issues with the MIIF, just before 1200 ram speed (1196). It does seem to be bios related too, although the MIIF has way better GTL selections....

[Alien Grey]

I'm tellin ya, Asus Bios Engineering=EPIC FAIL.........

I also have the same issues with the MIIF, just before 1200 ram speed (1196). It does seem to be bios related too, although the MIIF has way better GTL selections....

Maybe there is no DDR 1200MHz memory in the ASUS Maximus II Formula QVL.

[screwtech02]

Well, if there isnt, they need to stop advertising that it supports DDR1200 then....

[Alien Grey]

Here's the QVL of the ASUS Maximus II Formula.

No DDR 1200MHz in the QVL.

Qualified Vendors List (QVL) Standard table for user manual
Project Name : BIOS : 1111.111
We suggest that you install the Memory Modules on BlUE (DDR2) Slots (DIMM_A1 and DIMM_B1 slots).
DIMM socket support (Optional)
Vendor Part No. Size SS/DS Chip No. CL Chip Brand
A* B* C*
G.SKILL F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK DDR2 1066 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-8500CL5S-1GBPK DDR2 1066 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
GEIL GB22GB8500C5DC DDR2 1066 1024MB SS GL2L128M88BA25AB 5-5-5-15 GEIL V V V
GEIL GE22GB1066C5DC DDR2 1066 2048MB(Kit of 2) SS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
GEIL GE24GB1066C5QC DDR2 1066 4096MB(Kit of 4) SS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
GEIL GB24GB8500C5DC DDR2 1066 2048MB DS GL2L128M88BA25AB 5-5-5-15 GEIL V V V
GEIL GB24GB8500C5QC DDR2 1066 1024MB DS GL2L128M88BA25AB 5-5-5-15 GEIL V V V
GEIL GE24GB1066C5DC DDR2 1066 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
GEIL GX24GB8500C5UDC DDR2 1066 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
Hynix HYMP564U64FP8-G7 DDR2 1066 512MB SS HY5PS12821FFP-G7 7 HYNIX V V V
Hynix HYMP 512U64FP8-G7 DDR2 1066 1024MB DS HY5PS12821FFP-G7 7 HYNIX V V V
Kingston KHX8500D2/ 512 DDR2 1066 512MB SS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
Kingston KHX8500D2K2/1G DDR2 1066 1024MB(Kit of 2) SS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
Kingston KVR1066D2N7/ 512 DDR2 1066 512MB SS E5108AJBG -1J-E N/A N/A V V V
Kingston KHX8500D2K2/2G DDR2 1066 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
Kingston KHX8500D2K2/2GN(EPP) DDR2 1066 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
Kingston KVR1066D2N7/1G DDR2 1066 2048MB DS E5108AJBG -1J-E N/A N/A V V V
OCZ OCZ2N1066SR2GK(EPP) DDR2 1066 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5 N/A V V V
Qimonda HYS64T64000EU-19F-C DDR2 1066 512MB SS HYB18T 512800CF19F 6 QIMONDA V V V
Qimonda HYS64T128020EU-1.9-C DDR2 1066 1024MB DS HYB18T 512800CF19 7 QIMONDA V V V
Qimonda HYS64T128020EU-19F-C DDR2 1066 1024MB DS HYB18T 512800CF19F N/A N/A V V V
Elixir M2Y1G64TU8HC4B-BD DDR2 1066 1024MB DS N2TU 51280CE-BD 6 ELIXIR V V V
Kingbox 7YDI2 DDR2 1066 1024MB DS N/A N/A MICRON V V
Mushkin 996612 DDR2 1066 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V
PQI MEAHR422LA0102-07D3 DDR2 1066 1024MB DS PQE2648S19R N/A PQI V V V
Update : 2008/4/18 2008/6/17
Note :
A* : Supports one module inserted in any slot as Single-channel memory configuration
B* : Supports one pair of modules inserted into eithor the blue slots or the black slots as one pair of Dual-channel memory configuration
C* : Supports 4 modules inserted into both the blue and black slots as two pairs of Dual-channel memory configuration
Qualified Vendors List (QVL) Standard table for user manual
Project Name : Maximus II Formula 1.02G BIOS : 114
We suggest that you install the Memory Modules on BlUE (DDR2) Slots (DIMM_A1 and DIMM_B1 slots).
DIMM socket support (Optional)
Vendor Part No. Size SS/DS Chip No. CL Chip Brand
A* B* C*
A-DATA M2OAD6G3H3160G1E53 DDR2 800 512MB SS AD29608A8A-25EG N/A N/A V V V
A-DATA M2OAD6H3J4171Q1E52 DDR2 800 2048MB DS AD20908A8A-25EG N/A A-DATA V V
Apacer 78.01GA0.9K5 DDR2 800 1024MB SS AM4B5808CQJS8E N/A APACER V V V
Apacer 78.91G9I.9K5 DDR2 800 512MB SS AM4B5708JQJS8E N/A APACER V V V
Apacer 78.A1GA0.9K4 DDR2 800 2048MB DS AM4B5808CQJS8E 5 APACER V V V
Box P/N:TWIN2X4096-6400C5
CORSAIR DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V
(CM2X2048-6400C5)
BoxP/N:TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX
CORSAIR DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V V V
(CM2X2048-6400C4DHX)
BoxP/N:TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX
CORSAIR DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
(CM2X2048-6400C5DHX)
CORSAIR CM2X1024-6400C4 DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4 N/A V V V
Crucial BL12864AA804.16FD3 DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4 N/A V V V
Crucial BL12864AA804.16FD DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4 N/A V
Crucial BL12864AL804.16FD3 DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4 N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL5D-1GBNQ DDR2 800 1024MB(Kit of 2) SS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 4 N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5 N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL6D-4GBMQ DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 6 N/A V V
G.SKILL F2-6400CL6D-8GBNQ DDR2 800 8192MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 6-6-6-18 N/A V V V
G.SKILL F2-6400PHU2-2GBNR DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V
GEIL GB22GB6400C5DC DDR2 800 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS GL2L64M088BA30EB 5-5-5-15 GEIL V
GEIL GB24GB6400C4DC DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS GL2L128M88BA25AB 4-4-4-12 GEIL V V V
DDR2 800 2048MB DS GL2L128M88BA25AB 5-5-5-15 GEIL V V V
GEIL GB24GB6400C5DC
GEIL GE22GB800C4DC DDR2 800 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V
GEIL GE22GB800C5DC DDR2 800 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V
GEIL GE24GB800C4DC DDR2 800 2048MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V
GEIL GE24GB800C5DC DDR2 800 2048MB DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V V
GEIL GE28GB800C4QC DDR2 800 2048MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V V V
GEIL GX22GB6400C4USC DDR2 800 2048MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V V V
GEIL GX22GB6400DC DDR2 800 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V
GEIL GX22GB6400UDC DDR2 800 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V V V
GEIL GX24GB6400DC DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-5-5-15 N/A V V
Hynix HYMP564U64CP8-S5 DDR2 800 512MB SS HY5PS12821CFP-S5 5-5-5 Hynix V V V
Hynix HYMP 512U64CP8-S5 DDR2 800 1024MB DS HY5PS12821CFP-S5 5-5-5 Hynix V V V
KINGMAX KLDC28F-A8KI5 DDR2 800 512MB SS KKA8FEIBF-HJK-25A N/A KINGMAX V V V
KINGMAX KLDD48F-ABKI5 DDR2 800 1024MB DS KKA8FEIBF-HJK-25A N/A KINGMAX V V V
KINGSTON KHX6400D2LLK2/1GN(EPP) DDR2 800 1024MB(Kit of 2) SS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V V V
KINGSTON KHX6400D2ULK2/1G DDR2 800 1024MB(Kit of 2) SS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V
KINGSTON KVR800D2N5/ 512 DDR2 800 512MB SS E5108AJBG-8E-E N/A ELPIDA V V V
KINGSTON KVR800D2N6/ 512 DDR2 800 512MB SS E5108AJBG-8E-E 1.8 ELPIDA V V V
KINGSTON KHX6400D2/2G DDR2 800 2048MB DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V
KINGSTON KHX6400D2LL/1G DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package 4-4-4-12 N/A V V V
KINGSTON KVR800D2N5/1G DDR2 800 1024MB DS E5108AJBG-8E-E N/A ELPIDA V V
KINGSTON KVR800D2N5/1G DDR2 800 1024MB DS V59C1 512804QBF25 N/A N/A V V V
KINGSTON KVR800D2N5/2G DDR2 800 2048MB DS E1108ACBG-8E-E N/A ELPIDA V V V
KINGSTON KVR800D2N6/1G DDR2 800 1024MB DS E5108AJBG-8E-E 1.8 ELPIDA V V V
NANYA NT 512T64U880BY-25C DDR2 800 512MB SS NT5TU64M8BE-25C 5 NANYA V V V
NANYA NT1GT64U8HB0BY-25C DDR2 800 1024MB DS NT5TU64M8BE-25C 5 NANYA V V
NANYA NT1GT64U8HCOBY-25D DDR2 800 1024MB DS NT5TU64M8CE-25D N/A NANYA V V V
NANYA NT2GT64U8HC0BY-AC DDR2 800 2048MB DS NT5TU128M8CE-AC 5 NANYA V V V
OCZ OCZ2FX800C32GK DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
OCZ OCZ2P8004GK DDR2 800 4096MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 5-4-4 N/A V V V
OCZ OCZ2P800R22GK DDR2 800 2048MB(Kit of 2) DS Heat-Sink Package 4 N/A V
A3R1GE3CFF734MAA0
PSC AL8E8F73C-8E1 DDR2 800 2048MB DS 5 PSC V V V
E
Qimonda HYS64T256020EU-2.5-C2 DDR2 800 2048MB DS HYB18T1G800C2F-2.5 6 QIMONDA V V V
Qimonda HYS64T256020EU-25F-C2 DDR2 800 2048MB DS HYB18T1G800C2F-25F 5 QIMONDA V V V
SAMSUNG M378T2863QZS-CF7 DDR2 800 1024MB SS K4T1G084QQ 6 SAMSUNG V V V
SAMSUNG M378T6553GZS-CF7 DDR2 800 512MB SS K4T51083QG 6 SAMSUNG V V V
SAMSUNG M378T2953GZ3-CF7 DDR2 800 1024MB DS K4T51083QG 6 SAMSUNG V V V
SAMSUNG M378T5263AZ3-CF7 DDR2 800 4096MB DS K4T2G084QA-HCF7 6 SAMSUNG V V V
SAMSUNG M391T5663QZ3-CF7 DDR2 800 2048MB DS K4T1G084QQ 6 SAMSUNG V V V
Super Talent T800UA12C4 DDR2 800 512MB SS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V V V
Super Talent T800UB1GC4 DDR2 800 1024MB DS Heat-Sink Package N/A N/A V
Transcend JM800QLU-1G DDR2 800 1024MB SS TQ243ECF8 5 Transcen V V V
Transcend JM800QLU-2G DDR2 800 2048MB DS TQ243PCF8 5 Transcen V V V
Aeneon AET760UD00-25DC08X DDR2 800 1024MB SS AET03R25DC 5 Aeneon V V
Aeneon AET760UD00-25DB97X DDR2 800 1024MB DS AET93R25DB N/A Aeneon V V V
Aeneon AET860UD00-25DC08X DDR2 800 2048MB DS AET03R25DC 5 Aeneon V V V
Asint SLY2128M8-JGE DDR2 800 1024MB SS DDRII1208-GE N/A Asint V
Asint SLZ2128M8-JGE DDR2 800 2048MB DS DDRII1208-GE N/A Asint V V V
CENTURY 28V2H8 DDR2 800 512MB SS HY5PS12821BFP-S5 N/A Hynix V V V
Elixir M2Y1G64TU8HB0B-25C DDR2 800 1024MB DS N2TU 51280BE-25C 5 Elixir V V V
Kingbox N/A DDR2 800 2048MB DS EPD2128082200E-3 N/A Kingbox V V V
Oci 04701G16CZ5D2A DDR2 800 1024MB DS 64M8PC6400 5 Jnfinity V V V
Patriot PSD2 51280081 DDR2 800 512MB SS PM64M8D2BU-25EC N/A N/A V V V
Patriot PSD21G8002 DDR2 800 1024MB DS PM64M8D2BU-25PAC 5 Patriot V V
Patriot PSD22GB002 DDR2 800 2048MB DS PM128M8D2BU-25KC 5 Patriot V V
UMAX D48001GP3-63BJU DDR2 800 1024MB DS U2S12D30TP-8E N/A UMAX V V V
UMAX D48002GP0-73BCU DDR2 800 2048MB DS U2S12D30TP-8E N/A UMAX V
Update : 2008/4/30 2008/6/17
Note :
A* : Supports one module inserted in any slot as Single-channel memory configuration
B* : Supports one pair of modules inserted into eithor the blue slots or the black slots as one pair of Dual-channel memory configuration
C* : Supports 4 modules inserted into both the blue and black slots as two pairs of Dual-channel memory configuration

[greg.m]

It's quite simple. We bought an excellent board with a Chipset that Intel designed to get the best performance. The only problem that we've got is that this board came with the wrong BIOS.

The BIOS that we've got on our board isn't the type of BIOS you expect to have on a X48 R.O.G. board. The BIOS hides all the fun stuff that can give us the best performance and stability.

Poor GTL handling. Lack of proper tREF handling. To large increments that makes it hard to fine tune your settings. In one word "GARBAGE".

This is the kind of BIOS that you suspect on the low end boards to have some basic tweaking on that board but not a R.O.G board.

The ASUS Engineer told me that he can understand that we want the best performance from what he says a R.O.G. board but there isn't much that he can do because it isn't him who decides what should be done or what shouldn't be done. There's always that guy at ASUS who thinks that this is all a waste of money and valuable time that should be spend on their new boards.

So, you ask why we have to pay so much more?

Well, we paid so much for that board because ASUS is going to need that money when we don't buy there Enthusiast products anymore.

That's what's going to happen and ASUS is going to realize this when it's to late and I hope that the guy who always thinks that everything is a waste of money and valuable time that he is the first one that can look for an other job.

One think i can say for sure is that i have regretted buying this mobo. I see other ppl running their q9650s better @ att higher speeds than i do or running their mem easily @1200+ with their DFIs or gigabytes boards. Im really tired trying to find the right settings with the crapy bioses asus gives us(their suckers)

[screwtech02]

Heres were it says DDR1200 support....

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...66&modelmenu=1

[Alien Grey]

One think i can say for sure is that i have regretted buying this mobo. I see other ppl running their q9650s better @ att higher speeds than i do or running their mem easily @1200+ with their DFIs or gigabytes boards. Im really tired trying to find the right settings with the crapy bioses asus gives us(their suckers)

What do you expect? They tested the BIOS for problems with a 5% OverClock.

How the hell can you find problems with a 5% OverClock.

They always say that they don't give support for OverClock. I have no problem with that but if we ask to look at something because it doesn't feel right in the BIOS or we miss features and settings in the BIOS the least they can do is take notice of that and try to look for a solution.

[Fritz_the_germ]

Yoh guys,
I think it´s no coincidence that none of the 1200 MHz memory chips are listed in the QVL. They know exactely that their boards won´t reach the 12xx MHz memory speed goal. But for some fu***** reason ASUS just don´t want to solve the problems realated to that issue

[Alien Grey]

Yoh guys,
I think it´s no coincidence that none of the 1200 MHz memory chips are listed in the QVL. They know exactely that their boards won´t reach the 12xx MHz memory speed goal. But for some fu***** reason ASUS just don´t want to solve the problems realated to that issue

They can't solve these problems because they don't try to OverClock to see if you can run stable at these higher speeds.

They don't have to do that they can leave that for us. What's really important for them is that everything can run stable with default speeds and that there are no compatibility problems with the hardware that people use on their boards.

A possible solution for the problems that we experience with their BIOSes is to make a BIOS that comes with all these extra features that we're asking. Nobody ask them to make such a BIOS to be a final release that can be downloaded from their official download page.
What I'm asking is to make such a BIOS and share it with us so we can at least try things out to see if everything works better with that BIOS and what can be done or fixed in that BIOS to make it a final BIOS release.

If they could make a BIOS with better GTL handling like on the ASUS Maximus II Formula, NB PLL Voltage, always have the right tREF for the memory speed that you use and smaller skew increments for the CPU and NB Clock Skew, there's a good chance that all of our problems are gone and we finally can see what the real power of this R.O.G. X48 board is.

They know that the GTL handling in the ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS is a problem but nobody at ASUS cares to fix it. It's something that they already knew when they released the ASUS Maximus Formula and they made the mistake again with the release of the ASUS Rampage Formula.

What can we do about it?

We're always complaining to the wrong guys at ASUS and it looks like we can't contact the one that we should be complaining about these issues.

[Alien Grey]

Heres were it says DDR1200 support....

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...66&modelmenu=1

I saw that too. The strange part is that if you look at some reviews of the ASUS Maximus II Formula they never mention DDR 1200MHz.

[greg.m]

I think ill sell my rampage and ill go for a p45-ud3p. The only thing it keeps me from doing that is my future plans for one more 4870x2.

[Ghostleader]

I think ill sell my rampage and ill go for a p45-ud3p. The only thing it keeps me from doing that is my future plans for one more 4870x2.

I doubt if you gonna notice any significant different between 8x/8x vs 16x/16x, a few fps in favor for 16x/16x but if you want to go FSB 500+ with a quad rather easy you may have to sacrifice that because that is what you can do with the UD3P.

[screwtech02]

I think ill sell my rampage and ill go for a p45-ud3p. The only thing it keeps me from doing that is my future plans for one more 4870x2.

Man, i'm runnin 2 4850x2's in my MIIF now, believe me, there is NO noticible difference, and i game at 1920x1200, everything maxxed.... Just wish the damn board would cooperate with teh whole DDR1200 thing.... May have to put my DK X48TRS2+ back in, just ordered mosfet blocks for it.....

[Armored_Kech1]

I think I'll sell mine too and either go i7 (not buying asus again) or getting a UD3P. We've waited too long, if Asus is going to treat us like this then screw them!