Sanyo Denki San Ace 109R1212H1011 out of stock Everywhere?

[Zaskar]

Is there some kind of global shortage from Sanyo Denki? Ive checked every single bulk reseller from Sanyo Denki America's site, every single one was out or removed the model number from their inventory.

And these are the places that buy right from Sanyo Denki japan in bulk, and only sell in boxes of 20, or with a 20 piece minimum. (Prettymuch the places where all the PC sites would get them from in a few boxes worth at around $15-$18 a piece and sell for around $25)

The model isn't even on the Sanyo Denki product list, they have 2 other fans with the same performance but slightly different features (something to do with sensors)

Anyone know whats the deal, or where they can be purchased from (even if in 20piece minimum bulk, actually preferable since I need around that many and they will be much cheaper in all that way)

[ixtapalapaquetl]

I have been wondering the same thing myself for a while now. I downloaded the product sheets and found all the following fans have the exact same specs:

109R1212H101 - ribbed
109R1212H1011
109R1212H102 - ribbed, no rpm (yellow) wire
109R1212H1021 - no rpm wire

All four of these fans are listed by Sanyo Denki as .52A, 6.24W, 2600RPM, 102.3CFM, 64.7Pa, 39 dB, so I will presume they are identical except for the differences noted above. The 102's seem widely available. Seeing as it would be a poor idea to connect these to a motherboard in the first place, I doubt the lack of a rpm wire would affect many. Finally, 101's are available at ThermalFx. I purchased a few of these and they are identical to my 1011's except for the additional plastic. Worst case, you could dremel away any problem areas.

[InfamousChu]

man i really want some of these fans.. but i cant seem to get myself to shell out 20~ dollars a fan!

[Zaskar]

man i really want some of these fans.. but i cant seem to get myself to shell out 20~ dollars a fan!

Ha, if only it was as easy as shelling out $20 a fan! Gotta find a distributer first.

When even the official American wholesale distributers are out of stock, it makes you think something is wrong.

[FuriousSalesman]

Are they still being produced?

[Big_Daddy]

I have been wondering the same thing myself for a while now. I downloaded the product sheets and found all the following fans have the exact same specs:

109R1212H101 - ribbed
109R1212H1011
109R1212H102 - no rpm (yellow) wire
109R1212H1021 - ribbed, no rpm wire

All four of these fans are listed by Sanyo Denki as .52A, 6.24W, 2600RPM, 102.3CFM, 64.7Pa, 39 dB, so I will presume they are identical except for the differences noted above. The 102's seem widely available. Seeing as it would be a poor idea to connect these to a motherboard in the first place, I doubt the lack of a rpm wire would affect many. Finally, 1011's are available at ThermalFx. I purchased a few of these and they are identical to my 101's except for the additional plastic. Worst case, you could dremel away any problem areas.

109R1212H101 - ribbed 17 in stock

[Petra]

man i really want some of these fans.. but i cant seem to get myself to shell out 20~ dollars a fan!

That's why we haven't had any for a while... We used to get them at a reasonable price from a particular supplier, until we ran 'em out of fans. Now, going through one of the companies that Sanyo USA directed me to, it would cost us nearly what we used to sell them for (meaning that we would have to charge far more than we're comfortable with for a fan ).

[ixtapalapaquetl]

109R1212H101 - ribbed 17 in stock

thanks Big_Daddy - corrected previous post

[cegras]

That's why we haven't had any for a while... We used to get them at a reasonable price from a particular supplier, until we ran 'em out of fans. Now, going through one of the companies that Sanyo USA directed me to, it would cost us nearly what we used to sell them for (meaning that we would have to charge far more than we're comfortable with for a fan ).

Can't you just become a reseller yourself? I'm sure if your order is large enough you'll get a discount, and these things will probably sell like hot cakes priced correctly as well.

[Petra]

Can't you just become a reseller yourself? I'm sure if your order is large enough you'll get a discount, and these things will probably sell like hot cakes priced correctly as well.

To even get a reasonable price, we'd be looking at having to buy 600+ fans, wait three to four months for them to arrive, and then end up having to sell them for around $20/unit. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put the money into other water cooling parts.

Besides, when we did have these fans in stock, the vast majority of them sold to companies, not to end users.

[Big_Daddy]

Problem with these fans, is they are a:

IBM Factory Replacement for the Netfinity 7000 HOT SWAP Fan.

AND, if you get them in that configuration they are 60+ a piece. All you have to do is take the old fan out of the metal holder, and put this one in. That's why they go so quickly, and cost so much.

[Zaskar]

Is there Any way to get them in a quantity of 20-30? Even if the price is higher (cant really be higher then what you pay from places that buy in bulk then sell individually)
Don't care if I have to order them from outside the US.

Its crazy how absolutely none of the bulk resellers on Sanyo Denki Americas site have them.

[jadeskye]

it's very hard to get them in europe too. i've given up my quest (fed up calling europe, my phone bill is huge x_X) and resigned myself to zalman ZMF3s instead.

The ironic thing is they if they rolled these out worldwide, it pretty much wouldn't matter how much they sold them for, they'd sell. people like us would buy them ^^

[Big_Daddy]

Well, maybe we can get together, and get petra to help us with a bulk order.

[RADCOM]

Are they restricting supply to keep the market price up? I can smell conspiracy anywhere & everywhere lol

[FuriousSalesman]

Are they restricting supply to keep the market price up? I can smeel conspiracy anywhere & everywhere lol

Says the man with the Apocalypse avatar...

I paid $20 for 6 of my 1011's and I had to pay $30 to get my 7th. Price is definitely an issue.


http://www.electrospec.com/electroni...12-H-1011.html

Does anyone know if these guys are legitimate? They say they have 120 in stock.

[cegras]

I had actually did some rough math though, assuming you bought 1000 units, at, say .. 16 (conservative estimate). That's 16,000. Sounds like a lot, but if you do sell them for 20, and I'm pretty sure they will sell (maybe over time, maybe suddenly), that's a 4000 return. 25% profit?

[Zaskar]

Says the man with the Apocalypse avatar...

I paid $20 for 6 of my 1011's and I had to pay $30 to get my 7th. Price is definitely an issue.


http://www.electrospec.com/electroni...12-H-1011.html

Does anyone know if these guys are legitimate? They say they have 120 in stock.

How did you find that link? Doing a standard search on their site with the model number doesn't bring up that result. Send them a Quote request though.

Though I dont know if you can order from them unless your a company.

When looking at the RFQ page for the product it says "We do not sell to distributors, resellers, brokers."

But on their "search out inventory" page it says "We do not sell to distributors or individuals."

[jimmyz]

I'm not an air cooling guy so I don't follow the fans like you guys do, I bought these at a local store are they any good? I didn't see them mentioned. BTW mendelsons (the store) also has massive supplies of variable resistors and every concievable electronidc component you could imagine. they buy out odd lots from manufacturers etc, as well as complete inventories from factories that close. The store is in Dayton Ohio.

http://www.meci.com/product_info.php...s_id/650811604

[Zaskar]

To even get a reasonable price, we'd be looking at having to buy 600+ fans, wait three to four months for them to arrive, and then end up having to sell them for around $20/unit. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put the money into other water cooling parts.

Besides, when we did have these fans in stock, the vast majority of them sold to companies, not to end users.

I dunno, they would probably sell for $30 a unit just as fast :P Could probably order 1/3rd that amount to get them for that much more.

ha it would probably be better for individuals in the long run too at the higher price, since businesses would most likely forget about them at that price since they are looking at large orders and it would add up.

[CedricFP]

So besides the lack of RPM monitoring, the 1021's are exactly the same as the 1011's?

Sweet, because I have 2 1021's lying around, though they tick a little when used.

No RPM wire monitoring does not mean the fan can't be undervolted, right?

[Zaskar]

So besides the lack of RPM monitoring, the 1021's are exactly the same as the 1011's?

Sweet, because I have 2 1021's lying around, though they tick a little when used.

No RPM wire monitoring does not mean the fan can't be undervolted, right?

Thats correct, just means that you cant plug in a separate RPM monitor into a 3 pron mobo fan port to monitor fan speed inside windows.

Just at roughly the same extremely expensive price for a fan, if I'm going to invest in them, I want them to be exactly what i want.

[CedricFP]

Thats correct, just means that you cant plug in a separate RPM monitor into a 3 pron mobo fan port to monitor fan speed inside windows.

Just at roughly the same extremely expensive price for a fan, if I'm going to invest in them, I want them to be exactly what i want.

I would tend to agree. When I bought the two, over 2 years ago, I had no idea about the aforementioned differences.

However, I must have forgotten about them - they've been collecting dust for the last 2 years, and a quick test yest revealed slight ticks in the motor when running.

They should do very well on my PA 160's if I can resolve the tick issue - either by case insulation or opening up the fan and poking around inside.

[Zaskar]

They both are ticking?

[Kilyin]

Sanyo Denki makes the best fans, no question. I got on the bandwagon many years ago when that guy on Ebay was selling these for 5 dollars a pop. They are/were the closed corner ribbed version (12H101). I bought about 16-18 of them. Lots of them have been used 24/7 and still going strong as the day I bought them (around 04-05). Even at full power, they make a very soothing hum noise, not a vacuum cleaner sounding racket like a Delta or Tornado.