AMD Reveals Upcoming Plans.

[Jaivan]

In the end of March – beginning of April AMD is going to introduce its Perseus platform offering great stability, manageability, security and low power consumption for commercial environments. Perseus platform is regarded as a primary competitor to Intel's vPro platform. It will include quad-, triple-, and dual-core processors based on AMD's K10 and K8 architectures, integrated chipsets from the 780 series announced yesterday and optional graphics cards from R6XX family working in Hybrid Graphics mode. It is important to specifically stress Hardcastle technology dealing with security and management that should strengthen Perseus positions in the commercial market even more.

After that in the first half of April AMD is going to introduce a few quad-core Phenom processor models based on B3 core stepping and free from the notorious TLB bug. We should see Phenom 9650 and Phenom 9550 working at 2.3 and 2.2GHz frequencies respectively. At the same time the first triple-core Phenom 8600 and Phenom 8400 processor should also come out. They will at first be based on B2 core stepping and work at 2.3 and 2.1GHz frequencies respectively. All these four new processors will feature 95W TDP.

The second half of April will be remarkable due to upcoming Cartwheel platform launch that should represent mainstream performance, immersive HD and upgradeability. This platform is in fact available since the launch of 780 chipset series, because it uses mainboards based on these chipsets, processors and optional R6XX graphics cards. However, the key feature of the upcoming Cartwheel platform is in fact AMD LIVE! Technology support offering media-centric computing experience that connects and extends the digital world by means of special software.

In May AMD is going to continue expanding the frequency potential of their quad- and triple-core processors. They are expected to launch quad-core Phenom 9850 with 2.5GHz frequency and 125W TDP and Phenom 9750 with 2.4GHz nominal frequency and 95W TDP. New triple-core CPUs, just like their quad-core counterparts will start using B3 core stepping. As for the particular CPU models, we should see Phenom 8750, Phenom 8650 and Phenom 8450 with 95W TDP and 2.4, 2.3 and 2.1GHz respective frequencies.

The new mobile Puma platform is scheduled to be launched in June. It is expected to ensure best-in-class experience and performance-per-watt for consumer/commercial notebook users. Puma will include a new "Griffin" dual-core processor, an RS780M chipset with DirectX 10-class integrated graphics, a 55nm M8x mobile graphics processor, and support for the PC management software. The platform will also feature PowerXpress technology which allows the system to switch between external and integrated graphics when changing between AC and DC power without the need for a reboot. Also, Hybrid CrossfireX allows the integrated graphics hardware to work in tandem with the separate graphics controller to offer more power for gamers.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...ing_Plans.html

[xlink]

here's a better set of plans

lay off 80% of upper level management
sack hector
seek new talent
release a more competitive product on time.

[Epsilon84]

It doesn't look like AMD will be getting any more competitive on the CPU side of things. They're gonna use a 2.5GHz Phenom with a 125W TDP to compete against Intel's Penryn quads? Things are gonna get ugly...

Tri core looks destined for failure also, at 2.1 - 2.4GHz it doesn't stand a chance of outperforming a Wolfdale C2D, the only thing it'll do is compete against its own X2 6000+ / 6400+ CPUs.

[D4rkn3ss]

here's a better set of plans

lay off 80% of upper level management
sack hector
seek new talent
release a more competitive product on time.

this plus no more funny names like "phenom" "spider" "black" and sort

[Epsilon84]

this plus no more funny names like "phenom" "spider" "black" and sort

If it's any consolation, I don't consider 'Atom' any more creative a name.

It seems both companies can do with a marketing overhaul.

[D4rkn3ss]

If it's any consolation, I don't consider 'Atom' any more creative a name.

It seems both companies can do with a marketing overhaul.

c'mon dude.. snakes and spiders?

[GunterFalstaff]

so, whatever happened to the 9900/9950? they drop that alltogether or bump the release until end of the year? >.< i HATE waiting forever just to get the releases bumped again... so frustrating

[cozwin]

c'mon dude.. snakes and spiders?

why not snakes and ladders...?

[D4rkn3ss]

why not snakes and ladders...?

Genious..

[DeathReborn]

c'mon dude.. snakes and spiders?

The chipsets should be named after planes & the GPU's after snakes. Then all they'd need is Samuel L Jackson to do some TV adverts.

[gallardo]

The chipsets should be named after planes & the GPU's after snakes. Then all they'd need is Samuel L Jackson to do some TV adverts.

"Buy a motherf AMD processor cause there's snakes on the motherf plane!"

[D4rkn3ss]

there goes the amd's neighborhood these days

[Syn.]

Hey i am happy 9850 is the first Phenom i can buy, 2.5Ghz is the step up from my current 2.4Ghz so i can justify buying it. Then again i will probably have money for upgrade by the time 9900 comes out lol.

[nn_step]

here's a better set of plans

lay off 80% of upper level management
sack hector
seek new talent
release a more competitive product on time.

how about a simple reality check instead. AMD can and has spent a decade without needing to take the performance crown.
Thus instead of pushing the limits of performance, dragging the prices down...
Which definitely benefits the majority of users.

[GunterFalstaff]

only a 1ghz upgrade? =/ i want to see 3.0 stock and + i want a quad core so bad but they are just soo slow right now...

[XS Janus]

snake and spiders = smoke and mirrors

[Start]

why not snakes and ladders...?

Snakes ON ladders

[Ub3r-L33ch]

This thread is proof of how much people are paying attention to AMD right now ... they need to get their act together.

[Gambit_2K]

It doesn't look like AMD will be getting any more competitive on the CPU side of things. They're gonna use a 2.5GHz Phenom with a 125W TDP to compete against Intel's Penryn quads? Things are gonna get ugly...

Tri core looks destined for failure also, at 2.1 - 2.4GHz it doesn't stand a chance of outperforming a Wolfdale C2D, the only thing it'll do is compete against its own X2 6000+ / 6400+ CPUs.

Penryn vs. 45 nm Phenom @ Q4 im guessing

[sdsdv10]

c'mon dude.. snakes and spiders?

Did someone say... "Spiders and Snakes"?!?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUIycfWjW-k

[Eastcoasthandle]

I really have to ask, Does the Phenom 9600 Agena really do that bad in games at 1680 and higher? Are there any reviews using it vs QX9550 at those resolutions? I know that when benchmarked at resolutions of 1024 and 1280 it does pretty bad but I have yet to find any conclusive results using only 1680 or 1920 resolution. This bothers me because a lot of us have grown out of 1024 and 1280 and I would like to see what the 9600 can do at 1680 or 1920. This would let me know were the 9600 really stands!

Any volunteers to offer links?


Edit:
I found a review of it at overclockers vs Q6600.
It wins in:
Bioshock at 1680 All settings to Maximum
Call of Juarez at 1680 @ 16X AF @ Very High

It loses in Crysis, WiC and CoD4 at 1680

[villa1n]

on the bright side, looks like a new laptop in june

[Epsilon84]

I really have to ask, Does the Phenom 9600 Agena really do that bad in games at 1680 and higher? Are there any reviews using it vs QX9550 at those resolutions? I know that when benchmarked at resolutions of 1024 and 1280 it does pretty bad but I have yet to find any conclusive results using only 1680 or 1920 resolution. This bothers me because a lot of us have grown out of 1024 and 1280 and I would like to see what the 9600 can do at 1680 or 1920. This would let me know were the 9600 really stands!

Any volunteers to offer links?

Good point. As resolution increases, the workload shifts more towards the GPU, so I would expect Phenom to fare better at higher resolutions when there are GPU bottlenecks involved. I've found one article which may be of interest.

Note that these are clock for clock comparisons between C2Q, C2D, Phenom and X2. All CPUs are running at 2.2GHz.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=711&p=7

[Eastcoasthandle]

Good point. As resolution increases, the workload shifts more towards the GPU, so I would expect Phenom to fare better at higher resolutions when there are GPU bottlenecks involved. I've found one article which may be of interest.

Note that these are clock for clock comparisons between C2Q, C2D, Phenom and X2. All CPUs are running at 2.2GHz.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=711&p=7

Thanks!

Although the Phenom processor did recover in Company of Heroes when using the high quality in-game settings, it was still slower than the Core 2 Duo and Quad processors. However, the Crysis results when using the high-quality settings were a little unexpected. The Phenom was found to be slightly faster than the Core 2 Quad at 1680x1050 and 1920x1200. These tests were run four times and the average result was taken and each time the Phenom was faster. Perhaps more intriguing is the fact that the Athlon64 X2 was faster than the Core 2 Duo at 1920x1200.

[[XC] gomeler]

how about a simple reality check instead. AMD can and has spent a decade without needing to take the performance crown.
Thus instead of pushing the limits of performance, dragging the prices down...
Which definitely benefits the majority of users.

Have we already forgotten the A64 days with the FX-57 and FX-60? Performance leaders and fun chips to play with.