The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

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Grnfinger: I have MOST of those settings (besides the RAM, it seems to be fine the way it is), but I had not changed GTL Reference, how much of a difference does this make?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger: I have MOST of those settings (besides the RAM, it seems to be fine the way it is), but I had not changed GTL Reference, how much of a difference does this make?

higher FSB for your CPU,
Maximus has a CPU GTL of 63 Rampage has 67 and it allowed for much higher clocks for me, I could get my wolfdale at around 535-540 where it would max out on Maximus at around 500

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higher FSB for your CPU,
Maximus has a CPU GTL of 63 Rampage has 67 and it allowed for much higher clocks for me, I could get my wolfdale at around 535-540 where it would max out on Maximus at around 500

Interesting!

I'm going to print those settings off and try 'em.

Wish me luck!

-Chris

[Grnfinger]

Hey Grnfinger I tried the memory setting you just advised without any luck. So most the advanced settings are back to normal.

(0403 Rampage BIOS)
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T (mine says 2N) Why?
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to PRE Delay : AUTO
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.318
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41 ( I have 2GBs now with 2 more coming)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

And here is what Memset says my settings are at. Anything I should tweak?

Looking at it now I'll post any suggestions shortly

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Nope, she won't post at 450. Damn thing!

[Grnfinger]

Nope, she won't post at 450. Damn thing!

whats LCD poster saying?

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whats LCD poster saying?

Our favourite

DET RAM

[faithful10]

#OverkIll

Can you try change: DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900 to auto instead if you not already have tried. I can not post then i select the speed even though it boots just fine on the same speed then using auto

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No, I have not tried auto, will try it right now.

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OK, it WILL NOT post at 450x8, BUT, it posts no problem at 400x9, and now with those updated settings from Grnfinger, it's priming and hasn't calfed yet. I had to boot into Windows (was in Linux before) and so I'll just stay in Windows now for a while and see how this goes...... It's HOT (two cores are 72, two others are 69 in Real Temp) but that's on small FFT, and it never gets anywhere near this kind of CPU usage during normal use in Linux. It runs WCG/SETI at 40% all the time, so always runs cooler.

RAM is now at 960-something. I had the choice of 960-something and 1280 and I somehow doubt my RAM will do 1280....

Funny part is, my CPU voltage is still at 1.475, I haven't changed it. So it had to be something else that was causing the instability before, and not the CPU voltage......

[ZenEffect]

nb needs more giggawatts!

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nb needs more giggawatts!

So it's NB voltage that needs to go up for it to post at 450? I have the stock cooler on it.......

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UPDATE: Rebooted by itself after "successfully completed 8K self-test" and had started again...... About 20 minutes uptime under full load. So I bumped the CPU voltage up one notch (it's at 1.48xx now) and started again.

-Chris

EDIT: Voltage in CPU-Z is 1.464 under full load with it set at 1.48x in the BIOS......

[Grnfinger]

UPDATE: Rebooted by itself after "successfully completed 8K self-test" and had started again...... About 20 minutes uptime under full load. So I bumped the CPU voltage up one notch (it's at 1.48xx now) and started again.

-Chris

EDIT: Voltage in CPU-Z is 1.464 under full load with it set at 1.48x in the BIOS......

Very good keep us posted.
I run 1.53 NB volts for 4x2GB's running 2x1GBs I only need 1.47NB volts
If your getting a Det dram hang you will need to adjust PL level, your ram will play a major roll in this depending on the spd. try PL 8 or higher and see if it boots.

BTW running auto for any setting is not a good idea, its better to place all values manually.

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Very good keep us posted.
I run 1.53 NB volts for 4x2GB's running 2x1GBs I only need 1.47NB volts
If your getting a Det dram hang you will need to adjust PL level, your ram will play a major roll in this depending on the spd. try PL 8 or higher and see if it boots.

BTW running auto for any setting is not a good idea, its better to place all values manually.

Dude, you are awesome!!! Changed PL to 8 and it booted right up at 450x8!!!!

NB is at 1.49 right now CPU back at 1.475, everything else relevant is as you posted.

Its now cooler at 450x8 than it was at 400x9?????? 68 and 66.......... (under small FFT)

[Grnfinger]

Dude, you are awesome!!! Changed PL to 8 and it booted right up at 450x8!!!!

NB is at 1.49 right now CPU back at 1.475, everything else relevant is as you posted.

Its now cooler at 450x8 than it was at 400x9?????? 68 and 66.......... (under small FFT)

Ahh shucks

Glad its working for you

[ZenEffect]

now try pull ins to get back to 7

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now try pull ins to get back to 7

Interesting idea..... I remember I was doing this before when I was running 3.0Ghz, and using them to get to 6......

I went and grabbed an Athlon 2400+ fan from my pile, and am using that on my RAM and NB now (it's good sized, JUST fits below my HSF) and now the NB and RAM are cool to the touch. I had broke my Athlon fan that I was using on my RAM before, so I wedged the ASUS NB cooler fan (the "optional" one that comes with the board) in between the DIMM's but noticed the ram was STILL hot to the touch with that on there, whereas with the fan previously, they were cold. It obviously was not moving enough air. I wonder if this was causing some stability issues as well? I dunno.

Thing is still priming!!!

And CPU voltage is still at 1.475. It NEVER ran this long before (at 3.6Ghz). It's well into it's second 8K batch now......... but I bumped NB up to 1.51 and FSB Term to 1.42 I think when it rebooted the last time.

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OK, seems it's stable on the small FFT tests now, but if I go to run BLEND, it locks solid within seconds.............. I know this is RAM related, but the RAM used to run 1113Mhz on PL6 at 3.0Ghz on BLEND all day long..... So does this mean it's NB voltage?

[Grnfinger]

OK, seems it's stable on the small FFT tests now, but if I go to run BLEND, it locks solid within seconds.............. I know this is RAM related, but the RAM used to run 1113Mhz on PL6 at 3.0Ghz on BLEND all day long..... So does this mean it's NB voltage?

most likely, try bumping the NB volts and see if it runs alittle longer
Do you have memtest pro? it can test the ram in windows separate from the cpu and can pinpoint erros rather quickly

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OK, I have it at 1.53V on the NB now and running BLEND. It hasn't frozen.............yet.

[ShawnTRD]

Very good keep us posted.
I run 1.53 NB volts for 4x2GB's running 2x1GBs I only need 1.47NB volts
If your getting a Det dram hang you will need to adjust PL level, your ram will play a major roll in this depending on the spd. try PL 8 or higher and see if it boots.

BTW running auto for any setting is not a good idea, its better to place all values manually.

PL 8 or higher? What PL??

[Grnfinger]

PL 8 or higher? What PL??

That was for overkill,
I have some ram settngs you can try , will post them is few mins just updating my X-FI card

See how this works for you

CAS# Latency - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
RAS# PRE Time - 5
RAS# ACT time - 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay - 3
Ref Cycle Time - 30
Write Recovery Time -6
READ to PRE Time -3

READ to Write Delay (S/D) - 8
WRITE to READ Delay (S) - 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D) - 5
READ to READ Delay (S) - 4
READ to READ Delay (S) - 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) - 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) - 6

DRAM Static Read Control - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
Transaction Booster - Disabled
Relax Level - 0

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OK, it's not freezing under BLEND now. I think I'll play with the pull-ins.

-Chris

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Looks like I'm stuck at PL8 with pull-ins off. Funny thing is, it primed on BLEND for 30 minutes no problem and then I turned on ALL the pull-ins, booted into Windows, ran BLEND, it froze after like 10 seconds, then turned them all off. And booted into Windows. Ran BLEND, then it froze again after a minute!!! WTF???? So, bumped it up to 1.55 with all the pull-ins enabled, and it froze. Turned them all off, booted into Windows and then froze after like 5 minutes. SO, now it's at 1.58, and we'll see if it freezes...............